From: stephen.hill@... (Steve Hill) Date: 2004-12-01T19:17:51+09:00 Subject: Re: PHP vs. Ruby vs. Python (vs. Rails) Carl Youngblood wrote in message > With zero exposure to web programming, I can see how Rails might take a little > longer to grok. Exactly my position. I have been using Ruby for about 5 years, but never written a web app before. I found it quite difficult to start with - I had to re-work my working methods a bit as I got my head round the way to do things, but after some initial pain I am finding Rails an extremely powerful framework. And the rubyness (or should that be rubicity) of it all is quite stunning. I like being able to write methods which take symbols as arguments - it makes for a very powerful framework (e.g. having a general plotting method that takes database column names (=ActiveRecord class memebr names) as arguments. Very neat :-) regards, treefrog