From: gltewalt@... (illocutionist)
Date: 2004-11-08T23:43:55+09:00
Subject: Re: OS X Tiger still including ruby 1.6

Eivind Eklund <eeklund@gmail.com> wrote in message news:<dc9b20bb041102060459a30f56@mail.gmail.com>...
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 07:17:04 +0900, Michael DeHaan
> <michael.dehaan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I wonder what we could do to get Apple to throw in some extra bells
> > and whistles by default, say working SDL, Cocoa, Tk (the shiny one
> > from the Aqua Port?), and OpenGL bindings?   I'm building out of
> > darwinports now, and I really should just be using straight source.
> > Anyhow, the Ruby "market" would take off like crazy if they put in
> > some good bindings by default and made them work -- it's kind of
> > clunky to get a GUI off the ground as it is (save for darwinports,
> > which is not good for distribution).
> > 
> > Look at what RedHat has done for Python acceptance...
> > 
> > If you know the right people at Apple to talk to about this, maybe we
> > can get Ruby a leg up.
> 
> I think I know who to talk to (their release engineer).  However, I
> think we should have exact information about the current status and
> some idea of what we want to propose before I talk to him; I don't
> think me sending him a mail with "Some Ruby people thing you should
> include some more Ruby stuff in your releases.  And by the way, what
> do you have now?" would do much good.
> 
> Eivind.

The shiny Tk working out of the box would be huge. Tk has never worked on 
OSX with out considerable (for a newcomer) head-banging.

*Me thinks Apple should replace applescript with Ruby. One can
 can imagine the growth explosion from that. Or, would it be a bad thing?*