[#5218] Ruby Book Eng tl, ch1 question — Jon Babcock <jon@...>

13 messages 2000/10/02

[#5404] Object.foo, setters and so on — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

OK, here is what I think I know.

14 messages 2000/10/11

[#5425] Ruby Book Eng. tl, 9.8.11 -- seishitsu ? — Jon Babcock <jon@...>

18 messages 2000/10/11
[#5427] RE: Ruby Book Eng. tl, 9.8.11 -- seishitsu ? — OZAWA -Crouton- Sakuro <crouton@...> 2000/10/11

At Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:49:46 +0900,

[#5429] Re: Ruby Book Eng. tl, 9.8.11 -- seishitsu ? — Jon Babcock <jon@...> 2000/10/11

Thanks for the input.

[#5432] Re: Ruby Book Eng. tl, 9.8.11 -- seishitsu ? — Yasushi Shoji <yashi@...> 2000/10/11

At Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:53:41 +0900,

[#5516] Re: Some newbye question — ts <decoux@...>

>>>>> "D" == Davide Marchignoli <marchign@di.unipi.it> writes:

80 messages 2000/10/13
[#5531] Re: Some newbye question — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2000/10/14

Hi,

[#5544] Re: Some newbye question — Davide Marchignoli <marchign@...> 2000/10/15

On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#5576] Re: local variables (nested, in-block, parameters, etc.) — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2000/10/16

matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:

[#5617] Re: local variables (nested, in-block, parameters, etc.) — "Brian F. Feldman" <green@...> 2000/10/16

Dave Thomas <Dave@thomases.com> wrote:

[#5705] Dynamic languages, SWOT ? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>

There has been discussion on this list/group from time to time about

16 messages 2000/10/20
[#5712] Re: Dynamic languages, SWOT ? — Charles Hixson <charleshixsn@...> 2000/10/20

Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote:

[#5882] [RFC] Towards a new synchronisation primitive — hipster <hipster@...4all.nl>

Hello fellow rubyists,

21 messages 2000/10/26

[ruby-talk:5914] Re: [RFC] Towards a new synchronisation primitive

From: kjana@... (YANAGAWA Kazuhisa)
Date: 2000-10-27 13:57:02 UTC
List: ruby-talk #5914
In message <20001027141003.A23614@xs4all.nl>
hipster@xs4all.nl writes:

> > deadlock could be avoided.  The only time you cannot get into your house
> > is if somebody ELSE has the only key; if you have it that is OK.  Or is
> > that too simplistic?  This area is full of subtleties....
> 
> I like this house+key metaphor, let's use it. The Java lang-spec 2.0
> uses the same semantics IIRC. And simplicity is good: "Things should
> be as simple as possible, but not simpler." -- AE.

Uh, hmm.  Threads cannot split.  But such a program is rare.... at
least I can't get any meaningful situation.

An artificial example I thoght is concurrent traversal of graph.

    class synchronized Node
      attr :neighbors, true
    
      # details are snipped.
    
      def traverse
        queries = @neighbors.collect {|n| Thread.new {n.traverse}}
        ThreadsWait.wait_all(queries)
        some_work_with_query_results
      end
    end

    # If graph has cycles, an originator can be traversed by successor
    # threads, that would be blocked since they are not the originator
    # thread itself.

This type of deadlock can be avoided by threads remembering its parent
though.  The interpreter can trace all ancestors from a known
immediate parent.

# E. A. Brewer and C. A. Waldspurger, ``Preventing Recursion Deadlock
# In Concurrent Object-Oriented Systems,'' Massachusetts Institute of
# Technology, Laboratory for Computer Science,
# MIT-LCS//MIT/LCS/TR-526, February 1992.



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kjana@os.xaxon.ne.jp                               October 27, 2000
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