[#136217] Getting Ruby approved — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Hi,

49 messages 2005/04/01

[#136254] emerald 0.1 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>

Hello,

22 messages 2005/04/01

[#136329] Kernel.load() behaviour — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

I want to wrap a pile of classes, which are defined in their own files, inside

20 messages 2005/04/01
[#136334] Re: Kernel.load() behaviour — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2005/04/01

[#136357] Re: Kernel.load() behaviour — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...> 2005/04/01

On Friday 01 April 2005 17:24, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#136362] Re: Kernel.load() behaviour — Aredridel <aredridel@...> 2005/04/01

>

[#136390] Re: Kernel.load() behaviour — Brian Mitchell <binary42@...> 2005/04/01

On Apr 1, 2005 11:48 AM, Aredridel <aredridel@gmail.com> wrote:

[#136370] what password obfuscation options are there in standard ruby on windows? — rpardee@...

Hey All,

13 messages 2005/04/01

[#136445] MySQL under latest one-click installer — "R. Mark Volkmann" <mark@...>

Can it really be this hard to access MySQL from Ruby running under Windows?

13 messages 2005/04/02

[#136470] Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Pat Maddox <pergesu@...>

I'm writing a little method that just tries to open a tcp socket

19 messages 2005/04/02
[#136513] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/04/02

Quoting pergesu@gmail.com, on Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 08:05:15PM +0900:

[#136520] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Pat Maddox <pergesu@...> 2005/04/02

I don't want to override the protocol's idea of a timeout - I'd like

[#136529] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/04/02

Quoting pergesu@gmail.com, on Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 02:03:51AM +0900:

[#136536] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Pat Maddox <pergesu@...> 2005/04/02

In Java:

[#136551] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/04/02

Quoting pergesu@gmail.com, on Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 03:33:47AM +0900:

[#136555] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Pat Maddox <pergesu@...> 2005/04/02

All I'm trying to do is see if a connection can be made or not, in a

[#136568] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/04/02

Quoting pergesu@gmail.com, on Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 05:19:36AM +0900:

[#136499] Best way to get latest ruby on OS X? — Dennis Roberts <denrober@...>

So I just got a mac mini and want to get the latest version of ruby.

18 messages 2005/04/02

[#136630] - E04 - jamPersist Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby

21 messages 2005/04/03
[#137221] Re: [EVALUATION] - E04 - jamPersist Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Kirk Haines <khaines@...> 2005/04/07

Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#136633] Rant 0.3.2 — Stefan Lang <langstefan@...>

Rant is a flexible build tool written entirely in Ruby,

29 messages 2005/04/03
[#136636] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Jamis Buck <jamis@37signals.com> 2005/04/03

On Apr 3, 2005, at 10:40 AM, Stefan Lang wrote:

[#136652] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Stefan Lang <langstefan@...> 2005/04/03

On Sunday 03 April 2005 19:23, Jamis Buck wrote:

[#136661] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/04/03

Stefan Lang a 馗rit :

[#136662] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/04/03

Lionel Thiry, April 4:

[#136679] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/04/04

Nikolai Weibull a 馗rit :

[#136682] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/04/04

On Sunday 03 April 2005 09:49 pm, Lionel Thiry wrote:

[#137006] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/04/05

Jim Weirich a 馗rit :

[#136666] Ruby optimization - re-implement in compiled language? — Ant Sims <antsims9999@...>

11 messages 2005/04/03

[#136685] Ruby rite (Ruby 2.0) vaporware or real? — Stephen Birch <sgbirch@...>

Matz's keynote topic at Rubyconf in which Ruby 2.0 was introduced was

13 messages 2005/04/04

[#136701] Nitro + Og 0.15.0, Localization, Parametrized mixins, Morphing, SQLServer — "George Moschovitis" <george.moschovitis@...>

Hello everyone,

12 messages 2005/04/04

[#136740] Extension question — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Hi,

25 messages 2005/04/04

[#136774] fed up with this newsgroup — "Seppuku" <fscker2000@...>

I am sorry, but are you people retards? Why do you feed the Ilias

96 messages 2005/04/04
[#136799] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/04/04

Seppuku wrote:

[#136877] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — gene.tani@... 2005/04/05

Check this out! his post to c.l.python received 0 replies. That's

[#136885] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/04/05

On Apr 5, 2005 4:49 PM, gene.tani@gmail.com <gene.tani@gmail.com> wrote:

[#136889] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — "B. K. Oxley (binkley)" <binkley@...> 2005/04/05

Luke Graham wrote:

[#136908] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/04/05

B. K. Oxley (binkley) wrote:

[#136910] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/04/05

On Apr 5, 2005 10:04 AM, James Britt <james_b@neurogami.com> wrote:

[#137011] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 5, 2005 8:18 PM, B. K. Oxley (binkley) <binkley@alumni.rice.edu> wrote:

[#137017] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Bill Guindon <agorilla@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 5, 2005 9:58 PM, Luke Graham <spoooq@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137019] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 6, 2005 12:18 PM, Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137022] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Bill Guindon <agorilla@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 5, 2005 10:32 PM, Luke Graham <spoooq@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137026] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 6, 2005 12:55 PM, Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137029] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Bill Guindon <agorilla@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 5, 2005 11:28 PM, Luke Graham <spoooq@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137033] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 6, 2005 1:47 PM, Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137034] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/04/06

Luke Graham wrote:

[#137035] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Gary Lowder <Gary@...> 2005/04/06

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[#137037] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/04/06

Gary Lowder wrote:

[#137072] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 6, 2005, at 12:27 AM, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#137169] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Peter Reilly <peterreilly@...> 2005/04/07

James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#137188] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/04/07

On Apr 7, 2005 3:16 AM, Peter Reilly <peterreilly@apache.org> wrote:

[#137255] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Shajith <demerzel@...> 2005/04/07

Hi!

[#137261] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Jim Menard <jimm@...> 2005/04/07

Shajith wrote:

[#136776] - need a simple IDE which lists methods and variables — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

I like to try ruby a little bit more.

20 messages 2005/04/04
[#136849] Re: [IDE] - need a simple IDE which lists methods and variables — "Rob ." <rob.02004@...> 2005/04/04

Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#136803] doubly linked list in Ruby? — "ed_davis2" <ed_davis2@...>

I've gone through a Ruby tutorial, and have been writing some

17 messages 2005/04/04

[#136831] Garden RubyNuby Question on parameters in blocks vs. methods — "Trans" <transfire@...>

Noticed a new question on the RubyNuby page of the Garden Wiki.

9 messages 2005/04/04

[#136851] How Ruby is positioned regarding Enterprise Solutions? — Marco Campelo <marco.campelo@...>

Hello All,

21 messages 2005/04/05

[#136898] - E03b - The Ruby Object Model — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby

19 messages 2005/04/05

[#136970] Boston Ruby Meetup — "kellan" <kellan@...>

Hi all,

13 messages 2005/04/05
[#136971] looking for Houston meetup — "B. K. Oxley (binkley)" <binkley@...> 2005/04/05

Are they any rubyists in the Houston area interested in getting together?

[#136983] reading/writing Excel formats (or CSV) — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

12 messages 2005/04/05

[#137002] why aren't declarations just syntactic sugar? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello!

14 messages 2005/04/05

[#137085] Re: Regular expression mismatch ? — "Warren Brown" <warrenb@...>

Han,

13 messages 2005/04/06

[#137144] RMagick question — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2005/04/07

[#137202] In-depth schema details in ActiveRecord — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

A few days ago I posted a question on how to use ActiveRecord to

16 messages 2005/04/07

[#137225] Seven new VMs, all in a row — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...>

Hello everyone,

83 messages 2005/04/07
[#137333] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2005/04/08

In article <67a2229205040719147fec0f8a@mail.gmail.com>,

[#137335] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Bill Guindon <agorilla@...> 2005/04/08

On Apr 8, 2005 12:19 AM, Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:

[#137349] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...> 2005/04/08

[#137360] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — "George" <george.marrows@...> 2005/04/08

> I'm not *building* a Ruby VM on top of a Smalltalk VM. The Smalltalk

[#137230] Accessing SVN through Ruby — Bob Aman <vacindak@...>

I want to code up a CMS of sorts in Ruby that uses Subversion as the

29 messages 2005/04/07
[#137555] Re: Accessing SVN through Ruby — "Lee Marlow" <lmarlow@...> 2005/04/09

You might want to take a look at the rscm library on rubyforge: http://rubyforge.org/projects/rscm/

[#137607] Re: Accessing SVN through Ruby — Bob Aman <vacindak@...> 2005/04/09

On Apr 8, 2005 11:35 PM, Lee Marlow <lmarlow@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#137833] Re: Accessing SVN through Ruby — Bob Aman <vacindak@...> 2005/04/11

> On Apr 8, 2005 10:37 PM, Kouhei Sutou <kou@cozmixng.org> wrote:

[#137329] RubyForge at 600 projects and counting... — Richard Kilmer <rich@...>

Tom just activated the 600th project on RubyForge! That and 1,922

11 messages 2005/04/08

[#137370] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — flaig@...

Yeah, I'm curious about that too... a couple of years ago I wrote a Python-2-native compiler but was very disappointed to find that it revved up things only 2x to 3x (to less than 1/10 the speed of C code), the matter obviously being that Python's way of object handling already consumed most of the CPU time. Obviously, the need for endless type checks, comparisons and conversions, not to mention memory allocation and deallocation, is a bottleneck, at least in Python -- and though I am not really familiar with the internals of the Ruby interpreter, I think that the problem will be pretty much the same. Also in Smalltalk. So there must really be some fundamental stroke of genius involved....

24 messages 2005/04/08
[#137376] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...> 2005/04/08

On Apr 8, 2005, at 4:41 AM, flaig@sanctacaris.net wrote:

[#137454] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — "Charles Mills" <cmills@...> 2005/04/08

[#137462] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...> 2005/04/08

On Apr 8, 2005, at 12:39 PM, Charles Mills wrote:

[#137490] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/04/08

Peter Suk wrote:

[#137507] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...> 2005/04/08

On Apr 8, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Glenn Parker wrote:

[#137408] Re: [ANN] Instiki 0.10.0 - On The Rails — James Britt <james_b@...>

Alexey Verkhovsky wrote:

20 messages 2005/04/08

[#137459] Gem install fcgi — "Tony Targonski" <Tony.Targonski@...>

Gem installation of fcgi appears to be broken

21 messages 2005/04/08
[#137475] fcgi-0.8.6 recently released — Thursday <nospam@...> 2005/04/08

Tony Targonski wrote:

[#137468] Knight's Travails (#27) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

16 messages 2005/04/08

[#137558] Array#last_index — jzakiya@...

array.last returns the value of the last array element.

19 messages 2005/04/09

[#137571] method search rule in 2.0? — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>

I read:

22 messages 2005/04/09

[#137665] Fico 0.1.0 — Urban Hafner <urban@...>

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25 messages 2005/04/10

[#137671] fxirb 0.2.0 - Multiline Edit (and request for help) — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

available at http://rubyforge.org/projects/fxirb/

20 messages 2005/04/10

[#137691] Translating A Pattern of Data Into Equation, and ultimately code — Zach Dennis <zdennis@...>

I have the following table of data, and I am looking to create an

20 messages 2005/04/10

[#137700] cmd 0.7.0: Library for Line-Oriented Command Interpreters (initial release) — "Marcel Molina Jr." <marcel@...>

= Cmd 0.7.0 (initial release)

12 messages 2005/04/10

[#137744] [ANN| Bayesian Classification for Ruby — "Lucas Carlson" <lucas@...>

I would like to announce a new module called Classifier for Ruby. It is

15 messages 2005/04/11

[#137759] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — flaig@...

I think the "wal-mart argument" is quite an important one. Apart from explicitly creating threads, it would be nice if the Ruby system could be taught to automatically recognize parallelizable code and optimally distribute it across a multiprocessor system -- implicitly. That would be a big advange for high-level programming in general! I do not know the state of the art in this, I only remember that the Atari/Inmos guys failed do do this in Occam, back in the 1980s. Do you think there is a serious chance to get such a thing working?

10 messages 2005/04/11

[#137954] ability to run finalizers at a given point of a program? — Guillaume Cottenceau <gcottenc@...>

Hi,

26 messages 2005/04/12
[#137956] Re: ability to run finalizers at a given point of a program? — ts <decoux@...> 2005/04/12

>>>>> "G" == Guillaume Cottenceau <gcottenc@gmail.com> writes:

[#137965] Re: ability to run finalizers at a given point of a program? — Guillaume Cottenceau <gcottenc@...> 2005/04/12

What version of Ruby are you running? With your example I can see:

[#138080] Really quick question - How do I convert a string to a date — Glenn Smith <glenn.ruby@...>

I need a 'Date' object which is converted from a string value

10 messages 2005/04/13

[#138097] On motivating a Ruby nubie — Sy <sy1235@...>

Hey all. I wanted to dive into a topic that's been on my mind for

26 messages 2005/04/13

[#138107] Needle and Parameterized Services — Rob Lally <ruby@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2005/04/13

[#138130] What's beyond Rails? — "James Toomey" <jamesvtoomey@...>

Somewhat off-topic rant: This isn't so much a dig at Rails but a

37 messages 2005/04/13

[#138288] RedCloth, BlueCloth... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

...OldCloth, NewCloth? (Sorry, I went to a Dr. Seuss exhibit

22 messages 2005/04/15

[#138299] Is Ruby good for web applications? — "Unknown User" <me@...>

I am a Python and Ruby programmer and I'm thinking about learning PHP,

17 messages 2005/04/15

[#138310] ettiquette question — Chris Pine <glyconis@...>

How do you spell ettiquette? No, no, that's not really my question...

26 messages 2005/04/15

[#138323] Practical considerations for licensing software written with dynamic/non-compiled languages/platforms — Matt Pelletier <pelletierm@...>

Hello all. I'm looking for feedback on the following:

11 messages 2005/04/15

[#138412] Re: Is Ruby good for web applications? — "Tony Targonski" <Tony.Targonski@...>

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14 messages 2005/04/15
[#138416] Newbie Ruby and C question — Dave Sims <davsims@...> 2005/04/15

I'm trying to write an interface to the Ruby regular expressions engine

[#138430] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03b - The Ruby Object Model

96 messages 2005/04/16
[#138453] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — lostboard2001@... 2005/04/16

Let it be noted that c.l.python has absolutely refused to respond to

[#138490] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/16

lostboard2001@yahoo.com wrote:

[#138556] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...> 2005/04/17

> what has this to do with "false ruby language core documentation"?

[#138615] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/17

Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#138618] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/04/18

Ilias Lazaridis, April 18:

[#138622] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/18

Nikolai Weibull wrote:

[#138625] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/04/18

Ilias Lazaridis a 馗rit :

[#138797] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/19

Lionel Thiry wrote:

[#138802] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/04/19

On Monday 18 April 2005 11:34 pm, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#138804] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/19

Jim Weirich wrote:

[#138616] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/17

Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#138678] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/04/18

Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> writes:

[#138791] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/19

Christian Neukirchen wrote:

[#138817] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — mark sparshatt <msparshatt@...> 2005/04/19

Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#138846] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/19

mark sparshatt wrote:

[#138921] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/04/19

Ilias Lazaridis a 馗rit :

[#138956] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/20

Lionel Thiry wrote:

[#138858] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/04/19

Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#138962] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/20

Martin DeMello wrote:

[#138522] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Ryan Leavengood <mrcode1234@...>

Jim Freeze <jim freeze.org> wrote:

32 messages 2005/04/16
[#138525] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/04/17

Ryan Leavengood wrote:

[#138547] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/04/17

James Britt <james_b@neurogami.com> writes:

[#138551] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...> 2005/04/17

>> Would Rails , for example, have been as successful if people had to

[#138565] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/04/17

David Heinemeier Hansson <david@loudthinking.com> wrote:

[#138570] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Chad Fowler <chadfowler@...> 2005/04/17

On 4/17/05, Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:

[#138573] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Ryan Leavengood <mrcode@...> 2005/04/17

Chad Fowler wrote:

[#138586] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/04/17

On Sunday 17 April 2005 11:58 am, Ryan Leavengood wrote:

[#138639] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

I've written a very nuts+bolts article on metaclasses (aka virtual

95 messages 2005/04/18
[#138666] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/18

Hi --

[#138684] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...> 2005/04/18

David A. Black wrote:

[#138755] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/18

Hi --

[#138801] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/04/19

[Regarding the term "metaclass"]

[#138845] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/19

Hi --

[#138890] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2005/04/19

[#138893] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/19

Hi --

[#138907] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2005/04/19

[#138946] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/20

Hi --

[#138976] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/04/20

On Tuesday 19 April 2005 09:29 pm, David A. Black wrote:

[#139035] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — Carlos <angus@...> 2005/04/20

[Jim Weirich <jim@weirichhouse.org>, 2005-04-20 06.15 CEST]

[#139036] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/20

Hi --

[#139043] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — Chris Pine <glyconis@...> 2005/04/20

> > One possible explanation for this discrepancy is that the diagram is wrong.

[#139045] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — ts <decoux@...> 2005/04/20

>>>>> "C" == Chris Pine <glyconis@gmail.com> writes:

[#139146] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/04/21

ts ha scritto:

[#138690] Facets 0.6.3 — Brian Buckley <briankbuckley@...>

Hello,

20 messages 2005/04/18

[#138805] - Tag for Ruby Advocacy Related Topics — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"

28 messages 2005/04/19
[#138852] Re: [ADVOC] - Tag for Ruby Advocacy Related Topics — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/04/19

On 4/19/05, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#138891] Re: Obtaining Hal's "The Ruby Way" in the UK — Nuralanur@...

Dear Glenn,

15 messages 2005/04/19
[#138910] Re: Obtaining Hal's "The Ruby Way" in the UK — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...> 2005/04/19

* Nuralanur@aol.com <Nuralanur@aol.com> [0459 16:59]:

[#138923] Re: Obtaining Hal's "The Ruby Way" in the UK — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/04/19

Dick Davies wrote:

[#138925] The Ruby Way: Second Edition (was Re: Obtaining Hal's "The Ruby Way" in the UK) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/04/19

On Apr 19, 2005, at 6:27 PM, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#138966] : 'Ignoring Lazaridis'-proposal — Saynatkari <ruby-ml@...>

How about everyone stops responding to Lazaridis?

15 messages 2005/04/20

[#138979] - E03d - The Ruby Object Model (End Game) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation)

26 messages 2005/04/20
[#139006] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03d - The Ruby Object Model (End Game) — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2005/04/20

On 4/19/05, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#139010] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03d - The Ruby Object Model (End Game) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/20

Mark Hubbart wrote:

[#139026] Re: Facets 0.6.3 — flaig@...

AFAIK, all kinds of brackets, i.e. (),[] and {} are fine on unixish file systems, as are "+", "-", ",", "." and ";" .

14 messages 2005/04/20
[#139130] Re: Facets 0.6.3 — Michael Campbell <michael.campbell@...> 2005/04/21

It used to be, way back when, that 2 (ascii) chars were disallowed in

[#139052] : Example from Pickaxe2 gives errors... (p. 31) — <Simon.Mullis@...>

Greeting all,

11 messages 2005/04/20

[#139094] Newb CGI Question — Michael Buffington <michael.buffington@...>

So I thought I had CGI in Ruby figured out, but I'm stumped on the following:

11 messages 2005/04/20

[#139166] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03d - The Ruby Object Model (End Game)

84 messages 2005/04/21
[#139170] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/04/21

[Fair warning to those who plan on emailing me regarding this

[#139172] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/04/21

On Apr 21, 2005, at 7:39 AM, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#139174] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/21

James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#139178] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Henrik Horneber <ryco@...> 2005/04/21

[#139180] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/21

Henrik Horneber wrote:

[#139199] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/04/21

Hi,

[#139205] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/21

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#139207] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/04/21

[#139210] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/21

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#139216] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/04/21

Hi,

[#139297] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/22

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#139175] accessor for Class Variable — Leonardo Francalanci <lfrancalanci@...>

I know it's a stupid question, but I can't find the answer...

15 messages 2005/04/21

[#139249] for .. in .. else? — Douglas Livingstone <rampant@...>

In my erb templates, I've got this pattern quite often:

19 messages 2005/04/21
[#139251] Re: for .. in .. else? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/21

Hi --

[#139254] Re: for .. in .. else? — "Ryan Leavengood" <mrcode@...> 2005/04/21

David A. Black wrote:

[#139255] Re: for .. in .. else? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/04/21

Ryan Leavengood wrote:

[#139252] Managing complexity and untangling my thoughts — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Sometimes I stare at the monitor and think: Is it too late

18 messages 2005/04/21

[#139276] Proxy Server troubles — Tanner Burson <tanner.burson@...>

I've been working on a proxy server implementation for a project idea

13 messages 2005/04/22

[#139341] HighLine (#29) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

22 messages 2005/04/22
[#139359] Re: [QUIZ] HighLine (#29) — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/04/22

Hi,

[#139365] the Ruby Programming Shop — pat eyler <pat.eyler@...>

Announcing the Ruby Programming Shop (RPS)

11 messages 2005/04/22

[#139390] ruby tk: ruby 1.8.2 bug in TclTkIp with "exit 0" ... ? — Brett Williams <brett_williams@...>

I have a little wrapper around TclTkIp to do tcl interpreting with a

25 messages 2005/04/22
[#139480] Re: ruby tk: ruby 1.8.2 bug in TclTkIp with "exit 0" ... ? — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2005/04/23

Hello.

[#139749] tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 (WAS: Re: ruby tk: ruby 1.8.2 bug in TclTkIp with "exit 0" ... ? ) — Brett Williams <brett_williams@...> 2005/04/25

H.Yamamoto wrote:

[#139837] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2005/04/26

Hi,

[#139840] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2005/04/26

Hello.

[#139846] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2005/04/26

Hi,

[#139873] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2005/04/26

From: Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@ai.kyutech.ac.jp>

[#139918] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — Brett Williams <brett_williams@...> 2005/04/26

Hidetoshi NAGAI wrote:

[#139994] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2005/04/27

[#139407] RUBY port to HPUX 64-bit PA-RISC 11.11 — jon.a.miller@...

-Can anyone direct me to a binary distribution of ruby

12 messages 2005/04/22

[#139411] boulder_denver.rb — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

you know the drill - this is a call for boulder/denver rubyists to get

16 messages 2005/04/22

[#139412] Re: Ilias is Crazy -- a plea — "Jon A. Lambert" <jlsysinc@...>

Ryan Davis wrote:

30 messages 2005/04/22
[#139414] Re: Ilias is Crazy -- a plea — "Florian Frank" <flori@...> 2005/04/22

Jon A. Lambert wrote:

[#139445] Re: Ilias is Crazy -- a plea — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/04/22

On Apr 22, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Florian Frank wrote:

[#139449] Question: Time efficiency of Array << — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...>

Forgive the newbie-ish question. I have been playing around with

20 messages 2005/04/23
[#139451] Re: Question: Time efficiency of Array << — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2005/04/23

On 22 Apr 2005, at 17:31, Peter Suk wrote:

[#139455] Re: Question: Time efficiency of Array << — Ara.T.Howard@... 2005/04/23

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Eric Hodel wrote:

[#139457] Re: Question: Time efficiency of Array << — Saynatkari <ruby-ml@...> 2005/04/23

[#139458] Re: Question: Time efficiency of Array << — Ara.T.Howard@... 2005/04/23

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Saynatkari wrote:

[#139461] Re: Question: Time efficiency of Array << — William Morgan <wmorgan-ruby-talk@...> 2005/04/23

Excerpts from Ara.T.Howard@noaa.gov's mail of 22 Apr 2005 (EDT):

[#139477] Suggestion: Hash.remove — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

Something I often find useful is a version of Hash.delete which returns the

14 messages 2005/04/23

[#139481] Idea for Ruby Quiz - Su Doku solver — Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@...>

How the following look?

12 messages 2005/04/23
[#139489] Re: Idea for Ruby Quiz - Su Doku solver — Douglas Livingstone <rampant@...> 2005/04/23

On 4/23/05, Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@gmail.com> wrote:

[#139493] - E04 - Mr. Yukihiro Matsumoto (Ruby's Weakest Point) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary)

28 messages 2005/04/23

[#139518] announcing RubyLexer 0.6.0 — "vikkous" <google@...>

At this time, I am pleased to announce the release of RubyLexer 0.6.0,

25 messages 2005/04/23

[#139540] Dealing with trolls:the age-old debate — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

Given a troll's visit to the newsgroup (word on the street is that it's

17 messages 2005/04/23

[#139575] Announcing Reg 0.4.0 — "vikkous" <google@...>

I would like to announce the first version, 0.4.0, of Reg, the Ruby

28 messages 2005/04/24

[#139616] $KCODE reference documentation — dm1 <dmertz@...>

Hello, i know that one can use $KCODE to set the charset encoding, but do

4 messages 2005/04/24
[#140121] Re: $KCODE reference documentation — Bertram Scharpf <lists@...> 2005/04/27

Am Sonntag, 24. Apr 2005, 21:04:31 +0900 schrieb dm1:

[#140159] Re: $KCODE reference documentation — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2005/04/27

On 4/27/05, Bertram Scharpf <lists@bertram-scharpf.de> wrote:> Am Sonntag, 24. Apr 2005, 21:04:31 +0900 schrieb dm1:> > Hello, i know that one can use $KCODE to set the charset encoding, but do> > not find anymore where this is documented. Any pointers for that ?> > As far as I see when the source code is read the `-K' option> and the inline pragma (`# -*- ...') apply. After that,> `$KCODE' only influences what Regexp's dot (`/./') does.> > But that's just a guess.

[#139663] Folding editor for ruby code browsing — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

I need to fold the code so that I can get a handle on the overall structure;

30 messages 2005/04/24
[#139664] Re: Folding editor for ruby code browsing — Thomas Kirchner <lists@...> 2005/04/24

* On Apr 25 6:46, Andrew Walrond (ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org) wrote:

[#139673] Strange behavior with SimpleDelegator and its Idioclass — "Trans" <transfire@...>

Have a look at this. Run it as is, then unremark the comment section.

16 messages 2005/04/25
[#139686] Re: Strange behavior with SimpleDelegator and its Idioclass — Carlos <angus@...> 2005/04/25

[Trans <transfire@gmail.com>, 2005-04-25 02.04 CEST]

[#139688] Re: Strange behavior with SimpleDelegator and its Idioclass — Carlos <angus@...> 2005/04/25

[Carlos <angus@quovadis.com.ar>, 2005-04-25 04.06 CEST]

[#139692] Re: Strange behavior with SimpleDelegator and its Idioclass — "Trans" <transfire@...> 2005/04/25

Perhaps I should point out that the strange thing about this is that

[#139775] Arachno Ruby IDE 0.5.5 for Linux — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...>

Arachno Ruby IDE is an integrated development environment for the

27 messages 2005/04/25

[#139860] One-Click Ruby Installer 182-15 for Windows — Curt Hibbs <curt@...>

I had hope to simultaneously release installers

32 messages 2005/04/26

[#139890] ANN: A new scripting language Tao 0.9.0 beta released! — fu.limin.tao@... (Fu Limin)

Dear all,

28 messages 2005/04/26

[#139941] Is Ruby grammar context free? — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...>

Something that came up while discussing Ruby parsing brought this to my

13 messages 2005/04/26

[#140011] vim-ruby broken? — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...>

Hello group,

17 messages 2005/04/27
[#140094] Re: vim-ruby broken? — Tilman Sauerbeck <tilman@...> 2005/04/27

Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@gmail.com> [2005-04-27 18:34]:

[#140108] Re: vim-ruby broken? — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...> 2005/04/27

On 4/27/05, Tilman Sauerbeck <tilman@code-monkey.de> wrote:

[#140113] Re: vim-ruby broken? — Stefan Lang <langstefan@...> 2005/04/27

On Wednesday 27 April 2005 20:15, Joe Van Dyk wrote:

[#140127] Re: vim-ruby broken? — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/04/27

On 27/04/05, Stefan Lang <langstefan@gmx.at> wrote:

[#140027] Comments Are More Important Than Code — Tim Hunter <sastph@...>

Even if this is not directly about Ruby, both Jeff Raskin and the

66 messages 2005/04/27
[#140141] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — "Dave Fayram" <dfayram@...> 2005/04/27

James Britt said:

[#140146] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/04/27

Dave Fayram wrote:

[#140152] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2005/04/27

* James Britt <james_b@neurogami.com> [2005-04-28 07:33:00 +0900]:

[#140155] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — "Dave Fayram" <dfayram@...> 2005/04/27

[#140161] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2005/04/27

* Dave Fayram <dfayram@gmail.com> [2005-04-28 08:19:29 +0900]:

[#140162] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2005/04/27

* Jim Freeze <jim@freeze.org> [2005-04-28 08:42:16 +0900]:

[#140053] Rails Hosting — Andy Stone <xsltguru@...>

Hello all,

13 messages 2005/04/27

[#140216] Ruby and IDE — "the_mindstorm" <the_mindstorm@...>

Hi!

79 messages 2005/04/28
[#140224] Re: Ruby and IDE — "Johan Toki Persson" <tokikenshi@...> 2005/04/28

We're not a craving bunch. Hacking in such a wonderful language is good

[#140227] Re: Ruby and IDE — "Alex the_mindstorm Popescu" <the_mindstorm@...> 2005/04/28

>-----Original Message-----

[#140272] Re: Ruby and IDE — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/04/28

On 4/28/05, Alex the_mindstorm Popescu <the_mindstorm@evolva.ro> wrote:

[#140321] Re: Ruby and IDE — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/04/28

On Thursday 28 April 2005 03:25, the_mindstorm wrote:

[#140332] Re: Emacs vs. VI vs. IDE — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/04/28

Hello Ben,

[#140355] Re: Emacs vs. VI vs. IDE — Aredridel <aredridel@...> 2005/04/28

> BG> Emacs and vi are astounding at editing text. I doubt there's

[#140359] Re: Emacs vs. VI vs. IDE — kyu <kyu@...> 2005/04/29

Aredridel wrote:

[#140340] ruby static typing — caleb clausen <google@...>

Some time ago, I wrote up some ideas I had for a comprehensive static

14 messages 2005/04/28

[#140378] determining when inside 'class << self' — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

26 messages 2005/04/29
[#140578] instantiating metaclasses, sorta [Was: determining when inside 'class << self'] — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2005/04/30

On 4/28/05, Ara.T.Howard <Ara.T.Howard@noaa.gov> wrote:

[#140425] Barrel of Monkeys (#30) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

16 messages 2005/04/29

From: hal9000@...
Date: 2005-04-15 17:38:37 UTC
List: ruby-talk #138377
RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2005-4-14)

This FAQ contains information for those who want to:

  1) learn more about Ruby, and want to 
  2) post to comp.lang.ruby or to the ruby-lang mail list, or want to
  3) provide anonymous feedback to help us improve Ruby.

This FAQ will be posted monthly. If you are reading this material
via the mailing list or the newsgroup, note that you can find it on 
the web at: http://rubyhacker.com/clrFAQ.html

A German version of this FAQ is maintained by Josef "Jupp" Schugt. It can be 
found at: http://oss.erdfunkstelle.de/ruby/

Note that this is *not* the Ruby language FAQ! This can be found at:
http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum/

TABLE OF CONTENTS

    1 About Ruby
    1.1 What is Ruby?
    1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
    2 About comp.lang.ruby.
    2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby.
    2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
    2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
    2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
    2.5 What are these 6-digit message numbers?
    2.6 What is "POLS"?
    3 Anything else?

1 About Ruby

1.1 What is Ruby?

    Ruby is a very high level, fully OO programming language. Indeed,
    Ruby is one of the relatively few pure OO languages. Yet despite
    its conceptual simplicity, Ruby is still a powerful and practical
    "industrial strength" development language.  

    Ruby selectively integrates many good ideas taken from Perl,
    Python, Smalltalk, Eiffel, ADA, CLU, and LISP. Ruby combines 
    these ideas in a natural, well-coordinated system that embodies 
    the principles of least effort and least surprise to a 
    substantially greater extent than most comparable languages -- 
    i.e., you get more bang for your buck, and what you write is more
    likely to give you what you expected to get.  Ruby is thus a 
    relatively easy to learn, easy to read, and easy to maintain 
    language; yet it is very powerful and sophisticated.  

    In addition to common OO features, Ruby also has threads,
    singleton methods, mixins, fully integrated closures and
    iterators, plus proper meta-classes.   Ruby has a true
    mark-and-sweep garbage collector, which makes code more reliable
    and simplifies writing extensions.  In summary, Ruby provides a
    very powerful and very easy to deploy "standing on the shoulders
    of giants" OO scaffolding/framework so that you can more quickly
    and easily build what you want to build, to do what you want to
    do.  
    
    You will find many former (and current) Perl, Python, Java, and
    C++ users on comp.lang.ruby that can help you get up to speed in
    Ruby.

    Finally, Ruby is an "open source" development programming
    language.  

1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?

    If you're into IRC, check out #ruby-lang on FreeNode. There are
    also other channels -- see http://rubygarden.org/ruby?RubyOnIRC.

    There are also many web and print resources listed below:


    Ruby's home web site:
    
        http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/  (Ruby home page)

            Follow the links to documentation, downloads, the Ruby
            Application Archive, the Ruby mail list archives, and 
	    lots of other interesting information.  

    RubyForge (A major repository with hundreds of Ruby projects)

        http://rubyforge.org

    Ruby-Doc.org (A large source of Ruby documentation)
    
    RubyCentral.COM (Ruby's other major on-line docs and links site):
    
        http://www.rubycentral.com/  

    RubyCentral.ORG (Home of RubyCentral, Inc.)
    
        http://www.rubycentral.org/  

    RubyGarden (An important wiki site, very content-rich)

        http://rubygarden.org/

    Ruby FAQ: 
    
        http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum/

    Ruby User's Guide (introductory tutorial):

        http://www.rubyist.net/~slagell/ruby/index.html

    _Why's Poignant Guide to Ruby (A Ruby tutorial on acid, featuring 
        cartoon foxes)

        http://poignantguide.net/ruby/

    Note: The list of books below is now frozen. I don't
    want to maintain this forever. We all hope the number
    of Ruby books increases, of course.

    English language Ruby books (recent publication order):

        Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
        2nd edition. See below.

        Making Use of Ruby
	by Suresh Mahadevan
	Wiley; ISBN 0-471-21972-X (2002)

        Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days
        by Mark Slagell
        Sams; ISBN: 0672322528 (March, 2002)

        Ruby Developer's Guide
        by Michael Neumann, Robert Feldt, Lyle Johnson
        Publishers Group West; ISBN: 1928994644 (February, 2002)

        The Ruby Way
        by Hal Fulton
        Sams; ISBN: 0672320835 (December, 2001)

        Ruby In A Nutshell
        by Yukihiro Matsumoto
        O'Reilly & Associates; ISBN: 0596002149 (November, 2001)

        Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
        by Dave Thomas and Andrew Hunt
        Addison Wesley; ISBN: 0201710897 (2000)
        (As of Sept 2004, there is a second edition also. It is
         not open-sourced at this time.)
        Online version: http://www.rubycentral.com/book/
	(Note that this is a *legal* first edition.)
        Download: 
	  http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/downloads/book.html
        Errata: 
	  http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/errata/errata.html

    German language Ruby books (author alpha order):

        Das Einsteigerseminar Ruby. Der methodische und 
        ausf端hrliche Einstieg.
        by Dirk Engel and Klaus Spreckelsen 
        ISBN: 3826672429

        Programmieren mit Ruby
        by Armin Roehrl, Stefan Schmiedl, Clemens Wyss, et al.
        dpunkt.de; ISBN 3898641511 (February, 2002)
	Online: http://www.approximity.com/rubybuch2/node1_main.html

        Programmieren mit Ruby. Handbuch f端r den pragmatischen 
        Programmierer.
	Dave Thomas & Andy Hunt
        Addison-Wesley, 2002; ISBN: 382731965X.
        A German translation of the "Pickaxe" (Programming Ruby).

	Pickaxe translation by Juergen Katins: 
	  http://home.vr-web.de/juergen.katins/ruby/buch/

    Search past postings to comp.lang.ruby or the ruby-lang mail list
    (which have been mirrored to each other since mid-2000):

        http://groups.google.com/groups?q=comp.lang.ruby
        http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/ruby/ruby-talk/index.shtml

    Local Ruby users and groups in your area:

        http://www.pragprog.com/ruby?RubyUserGroups

2 About comp.lang.ruby

2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby

    comp.lang.ruby was officially approved in early May, 2000. 
    (Conrad Schneiker, the former maintainer of this FAQ, was 
    responsible for the "net paperwork" of creating this group.)
    Here is the official charter:

        CHARTER: comp.lang.ruby

        The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup is devoted to discussions of the
        Ruby programming language and related issues.

        Examples of relevant postings include, but are not limited
        to, the following subjects:

        - Bug reports
        - Announcements of software written with Ruby
        - Examples of Ruby code
        - Suggestions for Ruby developers
        - Requests for help from new Ruby programmers

        The newsgroup is not moderated.  Binaries are prohibited
        (except the small PGP type). Advertising is prohibited (except
        for announcements of new Ruby-related products).

        END CHARTER.

2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.

    (You should also follow these guidelines for the ruby-list mail
    list, since it is mirrored to comp.lang.ruby.) 

    (1) ALWAYS be friendly, considerate, tactful, and tasteful.  We
        want to keep this forum hospitable to the growing ranks of
        newbies, very young people, and their teachers, as well as
        cater to fire breathing wizards.  

    (2) Keep your content relevant and easy to follow. Try to keep
        your content brief and to the point, but also try to include
        all relevant information.

        (a) The general format guidelines (aka USENET Netiquette) are
            matters of common sense and common courtesy that make life
            easier for 3rd parties to follow along (in real time or 
            when perusing archives):

            - PLEASE NOTE! Include quoted text from previous posts
              *BEFORE* your responses. And *selectively* quote as much
              as is relevant. 
            - Use *plain* text; don't use HTML, RTF, or Word. Most
              mail or newsreader programs have an option for this; if
              yours doesn't, get a (freeware) program or use a
              web-based service that does.
            - Include examples from files as *in-line* text; don't
              use attachments.

        (b) If reporting a problem, give *all* the relevant
            information the first time; this isn't the psychic friends
            newsgroup.    When appropriate, include:

            - The version of Ruby. ("ruby -v")
            - The compiler name and version used to build Ruby.
            - The OS type and level. ("uname -a")
            - The actual error messages.
            - An example (preferably simple) that produces the
              problem.

    (3) Make the subject line maximally informative, so that people
        who should be interested will read your post and so that people
        who wouldn't be interested can easily avoid it.  

        *Usefully* describe the contents of your post:

            This is OK: 
            
                "How can I do x with y on z?"
                "Problem: did x, expected y, got z."
                "BUG: doing x with module y crashed z."

            This is *NOT* OK:

                "Please help!!!"
                "Newbie question"
                "Need Ruby guru to tell me what's wrong"

	    These prefixes have become common for subject lines:

                ANN:  (for announcements)
	        BUG:  (for bug reports)
	        OT:   (for off-topic, if you must post off-topic)
    
    (4) Finally, be considerate: don't be too lazy. If you are
        seeking information, first make a reasonable effort to look it
        up. As appropriate, check the Ruby home page, check the Ruby
	FAQ and other documentation, use google.com to search past
        comp.lang.ruby postings, and so on.  

2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.

    Matz (aka Yukihiro Matsumoto) is the wizard who created Ruby for
    us, so be nice to him. He is very busy, so be patient when asking
    questions. See the Ruby home page to find out more about him and
    his work. I (Conrad Schneiker) founded comp.lang.ruby at his 
    suggestion. Contrary to lots of skepticism, it was approved on 
    the first attempt, with 200 yes votes.

2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?

    The mailing list is older. When the newsgroup was created, they
    diverged. In mid-2001, Dave Thomas created a two-way gateway 
    that would "mirror" the newsgroup to the list and vice versa.
    (This was accomplished in 200 lines of Ruby code.) It is not 
    perfect; because of variability in the news feed, sometimes 
    messages are dropped or duplicated.

    The online archive of the mailing list therefore includes most
    of the traffic on the newsgroup, excluding the posts that were
    made before the creation of the gateway.

    Note: Spam or other inappropriate messages are NOT the 
    responsibility of Dave Thomas, who maintains the gateway. He
    does everything in his power to deal with this issue. Do NOT
    report spam to his ISP merely because the messages come from
    his server.

2.5 What are these 6-digit message numbers?

    Historically, every item on the mailing list had a subject
    starting with a string like: [ruby-talk:99999]

    The message numbers were convenient since they were strictly
    serial and formed a good way to refer to a past message. But
    they interfered with threading; Matz removed them after the
    matter was put to a vote in early 2002.

    The news header still refers to this number, should anyone
    wish to retrieve it. On the mailing list this number can
    now be found in the X-Mail-Count: header.

    You can point to a specific message by appending it onto the
    ruby-talk.com URL; i.e. http://ruby-talk.com/12345 will refer
    to message 12345. (NOTE: The above was true, but is not
    currently working.)

2.6 What is "POLS"?

    POLS is an abbreviation for "Principle of Least Surprise" (also 
    called the Law of Least Astonishment).

    This term certainly did not originate in the Ruby community, but 
    it has been frequently used there -- even overused or abused at 
    times. After all, *every* language or software system seeks at 
    some level to adhere to this principle. Is any system designed 
    to be unintuitive?

    It is inappropriate to invoke POLS as a "magic word" when one's 
    individual expectations are not met. Ruby continues to evolve, 
    and Matz often makes changes based on people wishes, needs, or 
    suggestions. But he cannot be bribed or threatened. Make 
    suggestions if you wish, but think twice before mentioning POLS.


3. Anything else?

    If you are new to Ruby (or haven't previously taken the Ruby User
    Survey), please take a moment to anonymously tell us about your
    programming background and about your Ruby-related interests. The
    results will be reported back to the Ruby community from time to
    time. This helps us do a better job of helping each other, and to
    more effectively expand the Ruby community for our mutual benefit.
    The survey is at:

        http://dev.rubycentral.com/survey.html

    This FAQ was originally produced by Conrad Schneiker.
    It is now maintained by Hal Fulton (hal9000@hypermetrics.com).
    I'm interested in corrections and suggestions, but remember that
    the purpose of this FAQ is to be a brief and simple introduction
    for new comp.lang.ruby readers.  
    
    In closing, one of the reasons that Ruby was designed to be
    relatively simple, uniform, yet very powerful was to make serious
    programming (among other kinds) fun.  We hope you will help us
    keep comp.lang.ruby fun as well. Enjoy.  


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