From: tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...>
Date: 2005-04-01T22:41:33+09:00
Subject: Re: Getting Ruby approved

On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:56:17 +0900, you wrote:


>Neither of these points sells Ruby. What sells Ruby is the
>productivity that programmers have when they use it.

>This is only my opinion: I don't consider Perl as being on a level
>with Ruby in this respect, and Tcl is not even close. 

interesting. i see a lot of messages here along the lines of 'which
gui kit should i use with ruby'...and then everyone  pipes up with
their favorite...

of course by then in tcl/tk land, we've already finished coding up our
interfaces :)

i had a client tender for a very specific one-time utility. they asked
in house c++ and java programmers, and externally my name came up
because of the local perl work i've done...

when i read the specs for the program they wanted i told them they
could have it in an hour if they didn't care about which language it
was (they were expecting perl from me at that point).

i used tcl/tk...the interface, which needed a certain arraignment of
widgets,  took maybe 5 minutes to code up (a RAD tool  at this point
would have slowed me down).  the rest of the code was trivial.

so the language that was 'not even close' brought me over $1000 in
less than an hour. tcl/tk really is a sleeper language. i'm amazed
that it's not more popular than it is outside of comp.lang.tcl

i'm still deciding on a permanent gui api for ruby :)
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