From: Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...>
Date: 2005-04-09T06:19:11+09:00
Subject: Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row

On Apr 8, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Glenn Parker wrote:

> Peter Suk wrote:
>> VisualWorks can use real threads, but only in the case of calling out 
>> to a DLL, and these contexts are exempt from GC.
>
> Well, that's a major hole, isn't it?

There is clearly some kind of disconnect here.  Are you expecting that 
the DLL be subject to Ruby GC & memory management?  Are you saying it's 
some kind of "hole" that the context which is doing the call-out is not 
being GC'd for the duration of the call?

Huh?

> And I suspect today's Ruby has pretty much the same "feature" as 
> VisualWorks in this regard, that is to say I could create a Ruby DLL 
> that spawned real threads and let them do their own memory management.

Please re-read my message.  Your response doesn't make any sense at 
all, especially with the 2nd sentence -- unless I am missing out on 
something.

And please, stop this stupid "our X is better than yours" nonsense.  
Such pride is misplaced on a particular VM/Language/paradigm.  I am 
here to share what the Smalltalk world has been acruing for some time, 
and am prepared to go through a lot of effort to do it.

--Peter


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