From: tsuraan <tsuraan@...>
Date: 2005-04-29T09:58:17+09:00
Subject: Re: Emacs vs. VI vs. IDE

> One feature i find vi/nvi/vim/whatever is lacking is the ability to 
> have an interactive shell inside a buffer, i can be in
> one xemacs session, and C-X2-C-Xo m-x shell and i have a command 
> prompt sitting right there, which i can even copy and paste from. I've 
> never found a way to do this in vi, and i find it much more productive 
> to be able to do everything from one terminal than constantly 
> switching backwards and forwards between processes. Just my $0.02 :)

That's definitely a weak point of vim.  There's a python script that 
can put a shell in a vim buffer, but it's very unstable and nearly 
useless.  I've heard that the next version will have support for that, 
but who knows...  I mostly just code with multiple consoles and gpm, so 
switching to a shell is just alt-f2 or whatever.  It's still not nearly 
as nice as emacs's integrated stuff though.