From: Lothar Scholz Date: 2005-04-08T14:32:06+09:00 Subject: Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row Hello Eric, EH> On 07 Apr 2005, at 14:32, Lothar Scholz wrote: EH> Wow, could you possibly be more negative? Yes, but i don't think i was very negative. Its just the observation that some of the most important parts of ruby are not written in ruby and must be manually convert (Basic library, GUI Bindings, etc.) The easy creation of binary extensions is a very important point for me and the reason why i switched from TCL to Ruby. EH> This kind of dismissive overlording behavior does not reflect the usual EH> spirit of acceptance and togetherness found on this list, especially EH> since so many projects of the same spirit are in progress at the same EH> time (YARV, Rubidium, JRuby, MetaRuby and a few less-publicized ones). The great number of projects which tries to do this and never come up with anything useable yet (except JRuby which is an interpreter rewrite in Java and does not belong to this list) should give anybody a break to think about the problems a little bit more. EH> This is a time for offering constructive criticism and helpful insight EH> into the difficult problems ahead, not a time to say things are EH> impossible! I think it's extremely hard to do this task. And that's why i asked if this is his Ph.D. to see if he has the huge amount of time to get this up and running. And i did a google search and found only 5 postings from Peter Suk since 2.Okt 2002 on this mailing list and some other information - like that he did a port of the Smalltalk refactoring browser. So it seems to be okay that i'm a little bit suspicious if this is one of the many ruby newbie ideas that we see here every few weeks or if we can start serious discussions. I wish him good luck for this project and hope he is successful. I'm sure i will try it out and offer constructive criticism in a later stage of the project. -- Best regards, emailto: scholz at scriptolutions dot com Lothar Scholz http://www.ruby-ide.com CTO Scriptolutions Ruby, PHP, Python IDE 's