From: Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
Date: 2005-04-22T16:54:37+09:00
Subject: Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary)

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[...] - (selective answering, with incoherent quotes)

Your answering behaviour is ungentle.

Against me and against readers (current and future archive readers).

I cannot believe that you simply ignore the essential part of my message.

I've recreated the message which you have essentialy ignored:

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Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
> <ilias@lazaridis.com> writes:
> 
>>> I feel sorry that you've misunderstood.
>> 
>> If you really feel sorry, than you should possibly reply to my 
>> initial message and comment what i've worked-out within the last 2 
>> weeks.
> 
> I don't think I could read through all of your post and reply 
> _before_ feeling sorry.

Feeling sorry for 'you've missunderstood' is irrelevant.

I ask you for an apology, from an analyst to an analyst.

An apology for _defective_ core documentation.

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I ask you to read _one_ message.

The initial message of this thread.

Please answer concisely and completely within the full context, thus
readers get the complete picture of this issue.

> And I will add a word "vertical" before "arrow" for the next check 
> in, anyway.
> 
> matz.


This is not enouth.

As the _direct_ responsible for the defective "ri Class" documentation,
you should have the courtesy, courage and integrity to reply directly to
my initial message.

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You owe this.

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To the community.

To my persons reputation.

To your persons reputation.

An most of all: to the reputation of the name "Matsumoto" that you carry.

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[REQUOTE]

>>> I wrote the original figure.  The documentation is not by me, but
>>>  by the English doc team members.
>> 
>> where can I find a list of the english doc team members?
>> 
>> I would like to know who is responsible for this text.

[REQUOTE]

ruby source-code, file "object.c"

"
void
Init_Object()
{
     VALUE metaclass;

     rb_cObject = boot_defclass("Object", 0);
     rb_cModule = boot_defclass("Module", rb_cObject);
     rb_cClass =  boot_defclass("Class",  rb_cModule);

     metaclass = rb_make_metaclass(rb_cObject, rb_cClass);
     metaclass = rb_make_metaclass(rb_cModule, metaclass);
     metaclass = rb_make_metaclass(rb_cClass, metaclass);
"

vs.

"In Ruby, the Class class is the class of all classes, no metaclass."

http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/40537

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