From: Francis Hwang <sera@...>
Date: 2005-04-13T08:43:02+09:00
Subject: Re: RubyOnRails-NYC group

Looks like our emails crossed one another out in the internets. Ah, 
well. Best of luck with this group, Matt.

On Apr 12, 2005, at 7:36 PM, Matt Pelletier wrote:

> I've created a new Yahoo Group for RoR in NYC called rubyonrails-nyc
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rubyonrails-nyc/
>
> I encourage anyone with an interest in Ruby AND/OR RoR to join. I'll 
> work out the details of setting up a meetup soon.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
> Matt Pelletier wrote:
>> Pat,
>> I fully agree about learning from the 'elders', and that cooperation 
>> and cross-talk should be encouraged from the start. I don't think 
>> fragmenting interests is too much of a concern at this point, though, 
>> as anyone coding for RoR is likely to be pretty interested in Ruby as 
>> a language anyway. I certainly am. In fact I plan to encourage anyone 
>> coming to the RoR to go to the NYC.rb as well. Depending on the size 
>> of the interest (I have 4 ppl so far), maybe we'll ask the NYC.rb 
>> leader (Francis I know you're on ruby-talk) to set aside some time 
>> for each meeting just to focus on RoR.
>> My rationale for wanting to start a Rails-specific group is that the 
>> ruby-nyc group is for the language, and those members have interests 
>> that don't necessarily deal directly with the web. While they would 
>> probably be interested to hear new members talk about Rails (and they 
>> were when I did so), I wouldn't want to alienate them by hogging the 
>> discussion about the Web.
>> Since this is going to the Ruby-talk list... any Ruby folks there 
>> interested in a NYC meetup?
>> Matt
>> pat eyler wrote:
>>> On Apr 12, 2005 3:40 PM, Matt Pelletier <pelletierm@eastmedia.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Pat (and Paul, from earlier reply),
>>>>
>>>> Actually I did go to last month's Ruby Group (If you guys are 
>>>> watching I
>>>> was the newbie). It was quite helpful, and I even came out with a 
>>>> free
>>>> 'Learn Ruby in 21 days' (thanks Francis), but my impression was 
>>>> that it
>>>> was more oriented toward the language itself than to Rails, esp. as 
>>>> it's
>>>> been around longer than Rails has existed. We talked about Rails a 
>>>> bit,
>>>> but I don't want to inadvertantly steer those meetings into 
>>>> discussions
>>>> just about Rails. So I will continue to attend them, but if there is
>>>> enough interest in NYC I'd like to start one that focuses on Rails
>>>> itself. There are plenty of developers here and I'd wager the 
>>>> interest
>>>> is only going to grow.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually I'm no where near NYC, so I didn't see you at the last 
>>> meeting.  ;^)
>>>
>>> I am concerned though that by starting Rails specific groups, we 
>>> fragment a community that is still fairly young.  I think having a 
>>> RoR group is a great idea, but I'd rather see it run in cooperation 
>>> with an NYC.rb (or whatever).  I
>>> think the new Rails folks can learn a lot from experienced Rubyists, 
>>> and the
>>> 'old timers' can certainly get a boost from the new folks that RoR 
>>> will bring
>>> in.
>>>
>>> just my $0.02
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Francis Hwang
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