From: Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...>
Date: 2005-04-24T00:24:54+09:00
Subject: Re: [EVALUATION] - E04 - Mr. Yukihiro Matsumoto (Ruby's Weakest Point)

This response was written solely to make sure that no one that reads
Ilias Lazaridis message will get the wrong idea about Ruby and its
community.

Ilias Lazaridis, April 23:

[A load of misinformation and lies has been cut out of this response]

> I will soon publish an updated version of The Ruby Object Model, which 
> will contain the "exclusive class" or "xclass":
> 
> http://lazaridis.com/case/lang/ruby
> 
> This should help evaluators to look at ruby, without getting confused 
> from this [unnecessary] insider-terminology.

For the record, this guy is not an authority on Ruby and his
“evalutations” of Ruby are riddled with errors and misinformation.
Please disregard anything that Ilias Lazaridis has to say about Ruby (or
any other programming language for that matter).

Please do not judge the merits of the Ruby programming language or the
goodwill of the Ruby community.  We are a friendly community and we make
every effort to make everyone feel at home.  Sadly, Ilias Lazaridis has
failed to see this and has therefore, kicking and screaming, finally
decided to leave us.  We will not miss him.  We will miss you, however,
if you decide to reject Ruby or its community based on anything that
Ilias Lazaridis has stated; in this thread or in any of his previous
ones.

Ilias Lazaridis misdoings and misbehavior has not been limited to this
mailing-list/USENET group.  He has been active on many language-related
mailing-list and USENET groups over the years, always with the same
horrendous attitude and behavior towards other people on those lists and
in those groups.  An example is the comp.lang.lisp group, where he
during the autumn of 2002 flooded the group with questions while
ignoring the answers that he was provided with; see
http://www.tfeb.org/lisp/mad-people.html for more information.

Again, please do not consider anything Ilias Lazaridis has to say about
Ruby or its community as valid.  Instead, you might consider giving
Ruby a try.  It's a wonderful programming language, written by a very
humble and helpful person and we in the community try our best to
follow his example.

For authoritative information on Ruby, you may visit pages like

http://ruby-lang.org/
        The Ruby home page

http://rubygarden.org/ruby
        A wiki full of relevant information for new users

http://www.ruby-doc.org/
        The Ruby documentation project
        (a very good book on Ruby can be found online here)

http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/
        A good introduction to programming, using Ruby

http://poignantguide.net/ruby/
        A very special introduction to programming in Ruby

http://redhanded.hobix.com/
        One of the many blogs that discuss Ruby-related issues

I hope you will enjoy programming in Ruby as much as I do,
        nikolai

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