[#136217] Getting Ruby approved — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Hi,

49 messages 2005/04/01

[#136254] emerald 0.1 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>

Hello,

22 messages 2005/04/01

[#136329] Kernel.load() behaviour — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

I want to wrap a pile of classes, which are defined in their own files, inside

20 messages 2005/04/01
[#136334] Re: Kernel.load() behaviour — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2005/04/01

[#136357] Re: Kernel.load() behaviour — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...> 2005/04/01

On Friday 01 April 2005 17:24, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#136362] Re: Kernel.load() behaviour — Aredridel <aredridel@...> 2005/04/01

>

[#136390] Re: Kernel.load() behaviour — Brian Mitchell <binary42@...> 2005/04/01

On Apr 1, 2005 11:48 AM, Aredridel <aredridel@gmail.com> wrote:

[#136370] what password obfuscation options are there in standard ruby on windows? — rpardee@...

Hey All,

13 messages 2005/04/01

[#136445] MySQL under latest one-click installer — "R. Mark Volkmann" <mark@...>

Can it really be this hard to access MySQL from Ruby running under Windows?

13 messages 2005/04/02

[#136470] Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Pat Maddox <pergesu@...>

I'm writing a little method that just tries to open a tcp socket

19 messages 2005/04/02
[#136513] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/04/02

Quoting pergesu@gmail.com, on Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 08:05:15PM +0900:

[#136520] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Pat Maddox <pergesu@...> 2005/04/02

I don't want to override the protocol's idea of a timeout - I'd like

[#136529] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/04/02

Quoting pergesu@gmail.com, on Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 02:03:51AM +0900:

[#136536] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Pat Maddox <pergesu@...> 2005/04/02

In Java:

[#136551] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/04/02

Quoting pergesu@gmail.com, on Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 03:33:47AM +0900:

[#136555] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Pat Maddox <pergesu@...> 2005/04/02

All I'm trying to do is see if a connection can be made or not, in a

[#136568] Re: Handling Timeout::Error from TCPSocket — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/04/02

Quoting pergesu@gmail.com, on Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 05:19:36AM +0900:

[#136499] Best way to get latest ruby on OS X? — Dennis Roberts <denrober@...>

So I just got a mac mini and want to get the latest version of ruby.

18 messages 2005/04/02

[#136630] - E04 - jamPersist Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby

21 messages 2005/04/03
[#137221] Re: [EVALUATION] - E04 - jamPersist Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Kirk Haines <khaines@...> 2005/04/07

Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#136633] Rant 0.3.2 — Stefan Lang <langstefan@...>

Rant is a flexible build tool written entirely in Ruby,

29 messages 2005/04/03
[#136636] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Jamis Buck <jamis@37signals.com> 2005/04/03

On Apr 3, 2005, at 10:40 AM, Stefan Lang wrote:

[#136652] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Stefan Lang <langstefan@...> 2005/04/03

On Sunday 03 April 2005 19:23, Jamis Buck wrote:

[#136661] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/04/03

Stefan Lang a 馗rit :

[#136662] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/04/03

Lionel Thiry, April 4:

[#136679] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/04/04

Nikolai Weibull a 馗rit :

[#136682] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/04/04

On Sunday 03 April 2005 09:49 pm, Lionel Thiry wrote:

[#137006] Re: [ANN] Rant 0.3.2 — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/04/05

Jim Weirich a 馗rit :

[#136666] Ruby optimization - re-implement in compiled language? — Ant Sims <antsims9999@...>

11 messages 2005/04/03

[#136685] Ruby rite (Ruby 2.0) vaporware or real? — Stephen Birch <sgbirch@...>

Matz's keynote topic at Rubyconf in which Ruby 2.0 was introduced was

13 messages 2005/04/04

[#136701] Nitro + Og 0.15.0, Localization, Parametrized mixins, Morphing, SQLServer — "George Moschovitis" <george.moschovitis@...>

Hello everyone,

12 messages 2005/04/04

[#136740] Extension question — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Hi,

25 messages 2005/04/04

[#136774] fed up with this newsgroup — "Seppuku" <fscker2000@...>

I am sorry, but are you people retards? Why do you feed the Ilias

96 messages 2005/04/04
[#136799] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/04/04

Seppuku wrote:

[#136877] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — gene.tani@... 2005/04/05

Check this out! his post to c.l.python received 0 replies. That's

[#136885] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/04/05

On Apr 5, 2005 4:49 PM, gene.tani@gmail.com <gene.tani@gmail.com> wrote:

[#136889] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — "B. K. Oxley (binkley)" <binkley@...> 2005/04/05

Luke Graham wrote:

[#136908] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/04/05

B. K. Oxley (binkley) wrote:

[#136910] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/04/05

On Apr 5, 2005 10:04 AM, James Britt <james_b@neurogami.com> wrote:

[#137011] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 5, 2005 8:18 PM, B. K. Oxley (binkley) <binkley@alumni.rice.edu> wrote:

[#137017] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Bill Guindon <agorilla@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 5, 2005 9:58 PM, Luke Graham <spoooq@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137019] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 6, 2005 12:18 PM, Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137022] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Bill Guindon <agorilla@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 5, 2005 10:32 PM, Luke Graham <spoooq@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137026] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 6, 2005 12:55 PM, Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137029] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Bill Guindon <agorilla@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 5, 2005 11:28 PM, Luke Graham <spoooq@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137033] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 6, 2005 1:47 PM, Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> wrote:

[#137034] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/04/06

Luke Graham wrote:

[#137035] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Gary Lowder <Gary@...> 2005/04/06

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[#137037] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/04/06

Gary Lowder wrote:

[#137072] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/04/06

On Apr 6, 2005, at 12:27 AM, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#137169] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Peter Reilly <peterreilly@...> 2005/04/07

James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#137188] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/04/07

On Apr 7, 2005 3:16 AM, Peter Reilly <peterreilly@apache.org> wrote:

[#137255] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Shajith <demerzel@...> 2005/04/07

Hi!

[#137261] Re: fed up with this newsgroup — Jim Menard <jimm@...> 2005/04/07

Shajith wrote:

[#136776] - need a simple IDE which lists methods and variables — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

I like to try ruby a little bit more.

20 messages 2005/04/04
[#136849] Re: [IDE] - need a simple IDE which lists methods and variables — "Rob ." <rob.02004@...> 2005/04/04

Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#136803] doubly linked list in Ruby? — "ed_davis2" <ed_davis2@...>

I've gone through a Ruby tutorial, and have been writing some

17 messages 2005/04/04

[#136831] Garden RubyNuby Question on parameters in blocks vs. methods — "Trans" <transfire@...>

Noticed a new question on the RubyNuby page of the Garden Wiki.

9 messages 2005/04/04

[#136851] How Ruby is positioned regarding Enterprise Solutions? — Marco Campelo <marco.campelo@...>

Hello All,

21 messages 2005/04/05

[#136898] - E03b - The Ruby Object Model — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby

19 messages 2005/04/05

[#136970] Boston Ruby Meetup — "kellan" <kellan@...>

Hi all,

13 messages 2005/04/05
[#136971] looking for Houston meetup — "B. K. Oxley (binkley)" <binkley@...> 2005/04/05

Are they any rubyists in the Houston area interested in getting together?

[#136983] reading/writing Excel formats (or CSV) — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

12 messages 2005/04/05

[#137002] why aren't declarations just syntactic sugar? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello!

14 messages 2005/04/05

[#137085] Re: Regular expression mismatch ? — "Warren Brown" <warrenb@...>

Han,

13 messages 2005/04/06

[#137144] RMagick question — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2005/04/07

[#137202] In-depth schema details in ActiveRecord — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

A few days ago I posted a question on how to use ActiveRecord to

16 messages 2005/04/07

[#137225] Seven new VMs, all in a row — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...>

Hello everyone,

83 messages 2005/04/07
[#137333] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2005/04/08

In article <67a2229205040719147fec0f8a@mail.gmail.com>,

[#137335] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Bill Guindon <agorilla@...> 2005/04/08

On Apr 8, 2005 12:19 AM, Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:

[#137349] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...> 2005/04/08

[#137360] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — "George" <george.marrows@...> 2005/04/08

> I'm not *building* a Ruby VM on top of a Smalltalk VM. The Smalltalk

[#137230] Accessing SVN through Ruby — Bob Aman <vacindak@...>

I want to code up a CMS of sorts in Ruby that uses Subversion as the

29 messages 2005/04/07
[#137555] Re: Accessing SVN through Ruby — "Lee Marlow" <lmarlow@...> 2005/04/09

You might want to take a look at the rscm library on rubyforge: http://rubyforge.org/projects/rscm/

[#137607] Re: Accessing SVN through Ruby — Bob Aman <vacindak@...> 2005/04/09

On Apr 8, 2005 11:35 PM, Lee Marlow <lmarlow@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#137833] Re: Accessing SVN through Ruby — Bob Aman <vacindak@...> 2005/04/11

> On Apr 8, 2005 10:37 PM, Kouhei Sutou <kou@cozmixng.org> wrote:

[#137329] RubyForge at 600 projects and counting... — Richard Kilmer <rich@...>

Tom just activated the 600th project on RubyForge! That and 1,922

11 messages 2005/04/08

[#137370] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — flaig@...

Yeah, I'm curious about that too... a couple of years ago I wrote a Python-2-native compiler but was very disappointed to find that it revved up things only 2x to 3x (to less than 1/10 the speed of C code), the matter obviously being that Python's way of object handling already consumed most of the CPU time. Obviously, the need for endless type checks, comparisons and conversions, not to mention memory allocation and deallocation, is a bottleneck, at least in Python -- and though I am not really familiar with the internals of the Ruby interpreter, I think that the problem will be pretty much the same. Also in Smalltalk. So there must really be some fundamental stroke of genius involved....

24 messages 2005/04/08
[#137376] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...> 2005/04/08

On Apr 8, 2005, at 4:41 AM, flaig@sanctacaris.net wrote:

[#137454] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — "Charles Mills" <cmills@...> 2005/04/08

[#137462] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...> 2005/04/08

On Apr 8, 2005, at 12:39 PM, Charles Mills wrote:

[#137490] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/04/08

Peter Suk wrote:

[#137507] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...> 2005/04/08

On Apr 8, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Glenn Parker wrote:

[#137408] Re: [ANN] Instiki 0.10.0 - On The Rails — James Britt <james_b@...>

Alexey Verkhovsky wrote:

20 messages 2005/04/08

[#137459] Gem install fcgi — "Tony Targonski" <Tony.Targonski@...>

Gem installation of fcgi appears to be broken

21 messages 2005/04/08
[#137475] fcgi-0.8.6 recently released — Thursday <nospam@...> 2005/04/08

Tony Targonski wrote:

[#137468] Knight's Travails (#27) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

16 messages 2005/04/08

[#137558] Array#last_index — jzakiya@...

array.last returns the value of the last array element.

19 messages 2005/04/09

[#137571] method search rule in 2.0? — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>

I read:

22 messages 2005/04/09

[#137665] Fico 0.1.0 — Urban Hafner <urban@...>

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25 messages 2005/04/10

[#137671] fxirb 0.2.0 - Multiline Edit (and request for help) — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

available at http://rubyforge.org/projects/fxirb/

20 messages 2005/04/10

[#137691] Translating A Pattern of Data Into Equation, and ultimately code — Zach Dennis <zdennis@...>

I have the following table of data, and I am looking to create an

20 messages 2005/04/10

[#137700] cmd 0.7.0: Library for Line-Oriented Command Interpreters (initial release) — "Marcel Molina Jr." <marcel@...>

= Cmd 0.7.0 (initial release)

12 messages 2005/04/10

[#137744] [ANN| Bayesian Classification for Ruby — "Lucas Carlson" <lucas@...>

I would like to announce a new module called Classifier for Ruby. It is

15 messages 2005/04/11

[#137759] Re: Seven new VMs, all in a row — flaig@...

I think the "wal-mart argument" is quite an important one. Apart from explicitly creating threads, it would be nice if the Ruby system could be taught to automatically recognize parallelizable code and optimally distribute it across a multiprocessor system -- implicitly. That would be a big advange for high-level programming in general! I do not know the state of the art in this, I only remember that the Atari/Inmos guys failed do do this in Occam, back in the 1980s. Do you think there is a serious chance to get such a thing working?

10 messages 2005/04/11

[#137954] ability to run finalizers at a given point of a program? — Guillaume Cottenceau <gcottenc@...>

Hi,

26 messages 2005/04/12
[#137956] Re: ability to run finalizers at a given point of a program? — ts <decoux@...> 2005/04/12

>>>>> "G" == Guillaume Cottenceau <gcottenc@gmail.com> writes:

[#137965] Re: ability to run finalizers at a given point of a program? — Guillaume Cottenceau <gcottenc@...> 2005/04/12

What version of Ruby are you running? With your example I can see:

[#138080] Really quick question - How do I convert a string to a date — Glenn Smith <glenn.ruby@...>

I need a 'Date' object which is converted from a string value

10 messages 2005/04/13

[#138097] On motivating a Ruby nubie — Sy <sy1235@...>

Hey all. I wanted to dive into a topic that's been on my mind for

26 messages 2005/04/13

[#138107] Needle and Parameterized Services — Rob Lally <ruby@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2005/04/13

[#138130] What's beyond Rails? — "James Toomey" <jamesvtoomey@...>

Somewhat off-topic rant: This isn't so much a dig at Rails but a

37 messages 2005/04/13

[#138288] RedCloth, BlueCloth... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

...OldCloth, NewCloth? (Sorry, I went to a Dr. Seuss exhibit

22 messages 2005/04/15

[#138299] Is Ruby good for web applications? — "Unknown User" <me@...>

I am a Python and Ruby programmer and I'm thinking about learning PHP,

17 messages 2005/04/15

[#138310] ettiquette question — Chris Pine <glyconis@...>

How do you spell ettiquette? No, no, that's not really my question...

26 messages 2005/04/15

[#138323] Practical considerations for licensing software written with dynamic/non-compiled languages/platforms — Matt Pelletier <pelletierm@...>

Hello all. I'm looking for feedback on the following:

11 messages 2005/04/15

[#138412] Re: Is Ruby good for web applications? — "Tony Targonski" <Tony.Targonski@...>

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14 messages 2005/04/15
[#138416] Newbie Ruby and C question — Dave Sims <davsims@...> 2005/04/15

I'm trying to write an interface to the Ruby regular expressions engine

[#138430] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03b - The Ruby Object Model

96 messages 2005/04/16
[#138453] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — lostboard2001@... 2005/04/16

Let it be noted that c.l.python has absolutely refused to respond to

[#138490] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/16

lostboard2001@yahoo.com wrote:

[#138556] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...> 2005/04/17

> what has this to do with "false ruby language core documentation"?

[#138615] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/17

Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#138618] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/04/18

Ilias Lazaridis, April 18:

[#138622] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/18

Nikolai Weibull wrote:

[#138625] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/04/18

Ilias Lazaridis a 馗rit :

[#138797] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/19

Lionel Thiry wrote:

[#138802] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/04/19

On Monday 18 April 2005 11:34 pm, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#138804] Re: - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/19

Jim Weirich wrote:

[#138616] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/17

Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#138678] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/04/18

Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> writes:

[#138791] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/19

Christian Neukirchen wrote:

[#138817] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — mark sparshatt <msparshatt@...> 2005/04/19

Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#138846] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/19

mark sparshatt wrote:

[#138921] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/04/19

Ilias Lazaridis a 馗rit :

[#138956] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/20

Lionel Thiry wrote:

[#138858] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/04/19

Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#138962] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/20

Martin DeMello wrote:

[#138522] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Ryan Leavengood <mrcode1234@...>

Jim Freeze <jim freeze.org> wrote:

32 messages 2005/04/16
[#138525] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/04/17

Ryan Leavengood wrote:

[#138547] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/04/17

James Britt <james_b@neurogami.com> writes:

[#138551] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...> 2005/04/17

>> Would Rails , for example, have been as successful if people had to

[#138565] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/04/17

David Heinemeier Hansson <david@loudthinking.com> wrote:

[#138570] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Chad Fowler <chadfowler@...> 2005/04/17

On 4/17/05, Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:

[#138573] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Ryan Leavengood <mrcode@...> 2005/04/17

Chad Fowler wrote:

[#138586] Re: All Quiet on the Western Front: Is Rails overshadowing Ruby? — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/04/17

On Sunday 17 April 2005 11:58 am, Ryan Leavengood wrote:

[#138639] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

I've written a very nuts+bolts article on metaclasses (aka virtual

95 messages 2005/04/18
[#138666] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/18

Hi --

[#138684] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...> 2005/04/18

David A. Black wrote:

[#138755] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/18

Hi --

[#138801] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/04/19

[Regarding the term "metaclass"]

[#138845] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/19

Hi --

[#138890] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2005/04/19

[#138893] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/19

Hi --

[#138907] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2005/04/19

[#138946] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/20

Hi --

[#138976] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/04/20

On Tuesday 19 April 2005 09:29 pm, David A. Black wrote:

[#139035] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — Carlos <angus@...> 2005/04/20

[Jim Weirich <jim@weirichhouse.org>, 2005-04-20 06.15 CEST]

[#139036] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/20

Hi --

[#139043] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — Chris Pine <glyconis@...> 2005/04/20

> > One possible explanation for this discrepancy is that the diagram is wrong.

[#139045] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — ts <decoux@...> 2005/04/20

>>>>> "C" == Chris Pine <glyconis@gmail.com> writes:

[#139146] Re: [ANN] Article: Seeing Metaclasses Clearly — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/04/21

ts ha scritto:

[#138690] Facets 0.6.3 — Brian Buckley <briankbuckley@...>

Hello,

20 messages 2005/04/18

[#138805] - Tag for Ruby Advocacy Related Topics — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"

28 messages 2005/04/19
[#138852] Re: [ADVOC] - Tag for Ruby Advocacy Related Topics — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/04/19

On 4/19/05, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#138891] Re: Obtaining Hal's "The Ruby Way" in the UK — Nuralanur@...

Dear Glenn,

15 messages 2005/04/19
[#138910] Re: Obtaining Hal's "The Ruby Way" in the UK — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...> 2005/04/19

* Nuralanur@aol.com <Nuralanur@aol.com> [0459 16:59]:

[#138923] Re: Obtaining Hal's "The Ruby Way" in the UK — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/04/19

Dick Davies wrote:

[#138925] The Ruby Way: Second Edition (was Re: Obtaining Hal's "The Ruby Way" in the UK) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/04/19

On Apr 19, 2005, at 6:27 PM, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#138966] : 'Ignoring Lazaridis'-proposal — Saynatkari <ruby-ml@...>

How about everyone stops responding to Lazaridis?

15 messages 2005/04/20

[#138979] - E03d - The Ruby Object Model (End Game) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03c - The Ruby Object Model (Revised Documentation)

26 messages 2005/04/20
[#139006] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03d - The Ruby Object Model (End Game) — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2005/04/20

On 4/19/05, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#139010] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03d - The Ruby Object Model (End Game) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/20

Mark Hubbart wrote:

[#139026] Re: Facets 0.6.3 — flaig@...

AFAIK, all kinds of brackets, i.e. (),[] and {} are fine on unixish file systems, as are "+", "-", ",", "." and ";" .

14 messages 2005/04/20
[#139130] Re: Facets 0.6.3 — Michael Campbell <michael.campbell@...> 2005/04/21

It used to be, way back when, that 2 (ascii) chars were disallowed in

[#139052] : Example from Pickaxe2 gives errors... (p. 31) — <Simon.Mullis@...>

Greeting all,

11 messages 2005/04/20

[#139094] Newb CGI Question — Michael Buffington <michael.buffington@...>

So I thought I had CGI in Ruby figured out, but I'm stumped on the following:

11 messages 2005/04/20

[#139166] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03d - The Ruby Object Model (End Game)

84 messages 2005/04/21
[#139170] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/04/21

[Fair warning to those who plan on emailing me regarding this

[#139172] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/04/21

On Apr 21, 2005, at 7:39 AM, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[#139174] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/21

James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#139178] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Henrik Horneber <ryco@...> 2005/04/21

[#139180] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/21

Henrik Horneber wrote:

[#139199] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/04/21

Hi,

[#139205] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/21

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#139207] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/04/21

[#139210] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/21

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#139216] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/04/21

Hi,

[#139297] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/22

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#139175] accessor for Class Variable — Leonardo Francalanci <lfrancalanci@...>

I know it's a stupid question, but I can't find the answer...

15 messages 2005/04/21

[#139249] for .. in .. else? — Douglas Livingstone <rampant@...>

In my erb templates, I've got this pattern quite often:

19 messages 2005/04/21
[#139251] Re: for .. in .. else? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/04/21

Hi --

[#139254] Re: for .. in .. else? — "Ryan Leavengood" <mrcode@...> 2005/04/21

David A. Black wrote:

[#139255] Re: for .. in .. else? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/04/21

Ryan Leavengood wrote:

[#139252] Managing complexity and untangling my thoughts — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Sometimes I stare at the monitor and think: Is it too late

18 messages 2005/04/21

[#139276] Proxy Server troubles — Tanner Burson <tanner.burson@...>

I've been working on a proxy server implementation for a project idea

13 messages 2005/04/22

[#139341] HighLine (#29) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

22 messages 2005/04/22
[#139359] Re: [QUIZ] HighLine (#29) — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/04/22

Hi,

[#139365] the Ruby Programming Shop — pat eyler <pat.eyler@...>

Announcing the Ruby Programming Shop (RPS)

11 messages 2005/04/22

[#139390] ruby tk: ruby 1.8.2 bug in TclTkIp with "exit 0" ... ? — Brett Williams <brett_williams@...>

I have a little wrapper around TclTkIp to do tcl interpreting with a

25 messages 2005/04/22
[#139480] Re: ruby tk: ruby 1.8.2 bug in TclTkIp with "exit 0" ... ? — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2005/04/23

Hello.

[#139749] tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 (WAS: Re: ruby tk: ruby 1.8.2 bug in TclTkIp with "exit 0" ... ? ) — Brett Williams <brett_williams@...> 2005/04/25

H.Yamamoto wrote:

[#139837] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2005/04/26

Hi,

[#139840] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2005/04/26

Hello.

[#139846] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2005/04/26

Hi,

[#139873] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2005/04/26

From: Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@ai.kyutech.ac.jp>

[#139918] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — Brett Williams <brett_williams@...> 2005/04/26

Hidetoshi NAGAI wrote:

[#139994] Re: tk_optionMenu bug in 1.8.2 — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2005/04/27

[#139407] RUBY port to HPUX 64-bit PA-RISC 11.11 — jon.a.miller@...

-Can anyone direct me to a binary distribution of ruby

12 messages 2005/04/22

[#139411] boulder_denver.rb — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

you know the drill - this is a call for boulder/denver rubyists to get

16 messages 2005/04/22

[#139412] Re: Ilias is Crazy -- a plea — "Jon A. Lambert" <jlsysinc@...>

Ryan Davis wrote:

30 messages 2005/04/22
[#139414] Re: Ilias is Crazy -- a plea — "Florian Frank" <flori@...> 2005/04/22

Jon A. Lambert wrote:

[#139445] Re: Ilias is Crazy -- a plea — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/04/22

On Apr 22, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Florian Frank wrote:

[#139449] Question: Time efficiency of Array << — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...>

Forgive the newbie-ish question. I have been playing around with

20 messages 2005/04/23
[#139451] Re: Question: Time efficiency of Array << — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2005/04/23

On 22 Apr 2005, at 17:31, Peter Suk wrote:

[#139455] Re: Question: Time efficiency of Array << — Ara.T.Howard@... 2005/04/23

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Eric Hodel wrote:

[#139457] Re: Question: Time efficiency of Array << — Saynatkari <ruby-ml@...> 2005/04/23

[#139458] Re: Question: Time efficiency of Array << — Ara.T.Howard@... 2005/04/23

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Saynatkari wrote:

[#139461] Re: Question: Time efficiency of Array << — William Morgan <wmorgan-ruby-talk@...> 2005/04/23

Excerpts from Ara.T.Howard@noaa.gov's mail of 22 Apr 2005 (EDT):

[#139477] Suggestion: Hash.remove — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

Something I often find useful is a version of Hash.delete which returns the

14 messages 2005/04/23

[#139481] Idea for Ruby Quiz - Su Doku solver — Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@...>

How the following look?

12 messages 2005/04/23
[#139489] Re: Idea for Ruby Quiz - Su Doku solver — Douglas Livingstone <rampant@...> 2005/04/23

On 4/23/05, Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@gmail.com> wrote:

[#139493] - E04 - Mr. Yukihiro Matsumoto (Ruby's Weakest Point) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E03e - The Ruby Object Model (Summary)

28 messages 2005/04/23

[#139518] announcing RubyLexer 0.6.0 — "vikkous" <google@...>

At this time, I am pleased to announce the release of RubyLexer 0.6.0,

25 messages 2005/04/23

[#139540] Dealing with trolls:the age-old debate — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

Given a troll's visit to the newsgroup (word on the street is that it's

17 messages 2005/04/23

[#139575] Announcing Reg 0.4.0 — "vikkous" <google@...>

I would like to announce the first version, 0.4.0, of Reg, the Ruby

28 messages 2005/04/24

[#139616] $KCODE reference documentation — dm1 <dmertz@...>

Hello, i know that one can use $KCODE to set the charset encoding, but do

4 messages 2005/04/24
[#140121] Re: $KCODE reference documentation — Bertram Scharpf <lists@...> 2005/04/27

Am Sonntag, 24. Apr 2005, 21:04:31 +0900 schrieb dm1:

[#140159] Re: $KCODE reference documentation — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2005/04/27

On 4/27/05, Bertram Scharpf <lists@bertram-scharpf.de> wrote:> Am Sonntag, 24. Apr 2005, 21:04:31 +0900 schrieb dm1:> > Hello, i know that one can use $KCODE to set the charset encoding, but do> > not find anymore where this is documented. Any pointers for that ?> > As far as I see when the source code is read the `-K' option> and the inline pragma (`# -*- ...') apply. After that,> `$KCODE' only influences what Regexp's dot (`/./') does.> > But that's just a guess.

[#139663] Folding editor for ruby code browsing — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

I need to fold the code so that I can get a handle on the overall structure;

30 messages 2005/04/24
[#139664] Re: Folding editor for ruby code browsing — Thomas Kirchner <lists@...> 2005/04/24

* On Apr 25 6:46, Andrew Walrond (ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org) wrote:

[#139673] Strange behavior with SimpleDelegator and its Idioclass — "Trans" <transfire@...>

Have a look at this. Run it as is, then unremark the comment section.

16 messages 2005/04/25
[#139686] Re: Strange behavior with SimpleDelegator and its Idioclass — Carlos <angus@...> 2005/04/25

[Trans <transfire@gmail.com>, 2005-04-25 02.04 CEST]

[#139688] Re: Strange behavior with SimpleDelegator and its Idioclass — Carlos <angus@...> 2005/04/25

[Carlos <angus@quovadis.com.ar>, 2005-04-25 04.06 CEST]

[#139692] Re: Strange behavior with SimpleDelegator and its Idioclass — "Trans" <transfire@...> 2005/04/25

Perhaps I should point out that the strange thing about this is that

[#139775] Arachno Ruby IDE 0.5.5 for Linux — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...>

Arachno Ruby IDE is an integrated development environment for the

27 messages 2005/04/25

[#139860] One-Click Ruby Installer 182-15 for Windows — Curt Hibbs <curt@...>

I had hope to simultaneously release installers

32 messages 2005/04/26

[#139890] ANN: A new scripting language Tao 0.9.0 beta released! — fu.limin.tao@... (Fu Limin)

Dear all,

28 messages 2005/04/26

[#139941] Is Ruby grammar context free? — Peter Suk <peter.kwangjun.suk@...>

Something that came up while discussing Ruby parsing brought this to my

13 messages 2005/04/26

[#140011] vim-ruby broken? — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...>

Hello group,

17 messages 2005/04/27
[#140094] Re: vim-ruby broken? — Tilman Sauerbeck <tilman@...> 2005/04/27

Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@gmail.com> [2005-04-27 18:34]:

[#140108] Re: vim-ruby broken? — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...> 2005/04/27

On 4/27/05, Tilman Sauerbeck <tilman@code-monkey.de> wrote:

[#140113] Re: vim-ruby broken? — Stefan Lang <langstefan@...> 2005/04/27

On Wednesday 27 April 2005 20:15, Joe Van Dyk wrote:

[#140127] Re: vim-ruby broken? — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/04/27

On 27/04/05, Stefan Lang <langstefan@gmx.at> wrote:

[#140027] Comments Are More Important Than Code — Tim Hunter <sastph@...>

Even if this is not directly about Ruby, both Jeff Raskin and the

66 messages 2005/04/27
[#140141] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — "Dave Fayram" <dfayram@...> 2005/04/27

James Britt said:

[#140146] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/04/27

Dave Fayram wrote:

[#140152] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2005/04/27

* James Britt <james_b@neurogami.com> [2005-04-28 07:33:00 +0900]:

[#140155] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — "Dave Fayram" <dfayram@...> 2005/04/27

[#140161] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2005/04/27

* Dave Fayram <dfayram@gmail.com> [2005-04-28 08:19:29 +0900]:

[#140162] Re: Comments Are More Important Than Code — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2005/04/27

* Jim Freeze <jim@freeze.org> [2005-04-28 08:42:16 +0900]:

[#140053] Rails Hosting — Andy Stone <xsltguru@...>

Hello all,

13 messages 2005/04/27

[#140216] Ruby and IDE — "the_mindstorm" <the_mindstorm@...>

Hi!

79 messages 2005/04/28
[#140224] Re: Ruby and IDE — "Johan Toki Persson" <tokikenshi@...> 2005/04/28

We're not a craving bunch. Hacking in such a wonderful language is good

[#140227] Re: Ruby and IDE — "Alex the_mindstorm Popescu" <the_mindstorm@...> 2005/04/28

>-----Original Message-----

[#140272] Re: Ruby and IDE — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/04/28

On 4/28/05, Alex the_mindstorm Popescu <the_mindstorm@evolva.ro> wrote:

[#140321] Re: Ruby and IDE — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/04/28

On Thursday 28 April 2005 03:25, the_mindstorm wrote:

[#140332] Re: Emacs vs. VI vs. IDE — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/04/28

Hello Ben,

[#140355] Re: Emacs vs. VI vs. IDE — Aredridel <aredridel@...> 2005/04/28

> BG> Emacs and vi are astounding at editing text. I doubt there's

[#140359] Re: Emacs vs. VI vs. IDE — kyu <kyu@...> 2005/04/29

Aredridel wrote:

[#140340] ruby static typing — caleb clausen <google@...>

Some time ago, I wrote up some ideas I had for a comprehensive static

14 messages 2005/04/28

[#140378] determining when inside 'class << self' — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

26 messages 2005/04/29
[#140578] instantiating metaclasses, sorta [Was: determining when inside 'class << self'] — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2005/04/30

On 4/28/05, Ara.T.Howard <Ara.T.Howard@noaa.gov> wrote:

[#140425] Barrel of Monkeys (#30) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

16 messages 2005/04/29

Re: Accessing SVN through Ruby

From: Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>
Date: 2005-04-12 17:20:26 UTC
List: ruby-talk #137960
On 12 Apr 2005, at 06:33, Bob Aman wrote:

> Nice, an answer that might get me somewhere.  Thank you!
>
>> DL is a generic dynamically-linked library wrapper that requires none
>> of this C compiler business.  You load a so/dll and tell Ruby what the
>> parameters are for the C calls, and it takes care of all the argument
>> passing for you.
>>
>> DL ships with ruby 1.8, but there doesn't seem to be an exact home 
>> page
>> for it.
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=ruby+dl
>>
>> Will give you several tutorial/documents on it.
>>
>>>> svn lists easily parseable output as one of its features...
>>>
>>> I don't think calling out to the command line client is a truely
>>> viable option.
>>
>> Why?
>
> The requirement of having to be able to modify the metadata.  I assume
> there's no way to modify the metadata in place through the client.  If
> there is, then that very nearly settles it, I think.  (Only thing left
> to deal with is my irrational apprehention every time I shell out for
> something.  Plus my reservations about needing to have Subversion
> installed.)
>
>> There's nothing that prevents an svn wrapper from presenting a
>> ruby-like API.  DL and SWIG only give different tradeoffs in how this
>> is implemented.
>
> What potential trade-offs are there between DL and SWIG?

I think I've illustrated the biggest ones already, with SWIG you can 
get exactly what you want, but it will take you more time and effort.  
With DL, you may run into some gotcha in the corner that DL doesn't 
handle well.  DL will require less effort to keep up-to-date than SWIG 
will, the difference depends on how quickly the svn internals change.  
(It looks like the subversion people do the right thing here, 1.1.3 
still seem to have the same library numbers as 1.0.0, so this probably 
won't be as big a deal.)

>> While many of the svn commands can work directly with the repository
>> without local storage, I don't know of any way to avoid writing to 
>> disk
>> for those commands that require a local checkout.
>
> Oh yeah, that reminds me...  Let's say you try to run the svn client
> from a random directory that isn't a svn working directory.  Since
> we're trying to avoid writing to disk, this will probably effectively
> be the case.  Are there any parameters to the command line client to
> tell it which repository it should be looking at?  It looks like you
> can specify the target but not the url?
>
> So how does TortoiseSVN do it with the repo-browser?  What
> capabilities do the client libraries expose that the command line
> client does not?

You'll have to consult with the subversion people more on this, but:

$ svn help propset
propset (pset, ps): Set PROPNAME to PROPVAL on files, dirs, or 
revisions.
usage: 1. propset PROPNAME [PROPVAL | -F VALFILE] PATH...
        2. propset PROPNAME --revprop -r REV [PROPVAL | -F VALFILE] [URL]

   1. Creates a versioned, local propchange in working copy.
   2. Creates an unversioned, remote propchange on repos revision.
[...]

I believe that, in general, svn commands that have a URL version 
require no local storage.

>>> I've been trying to get the Ruby SWIG bindings to work, but I have
>>> absolutely no idea how to get SWIG to do its thing.  It just sits
>>> there and complains about missing files.
>>
>> DL or an svn wrapper will probably get you farther faster than SWIG,
>> since both have a lower barrier to entry.  For an svn wrapper you just
>> need svn installed.  For DL you need to be able to find an svn .dll or
>> .so, which may be as simple as installing svn.
>
> But judging from the contents of my svn directory, maybe not:
>
>  Volume in drive D is PRIMARY
>  Volume Serial Number is 1CEC-3A16
>
>  Directory of D:\Program Files\Subversion\bin
>
> 01/26/2005  11:07 PM    <DIR>          .
> 01/26/2005  11:07 PM    <DIR>          ..
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM           794,722 svn.exe
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM           311,392 svnadmin.exe
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM           286,814 svnlook.exe
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM           315,488 svnserve.exe
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM           663,652 svnversion.exe
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM           254,058 svndumpfilter.exe
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM           647,168 libdb42.dll
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM           127,057 libapr.dll
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM           168,026 libaprutil.dll
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM            36,956 libapriconv.dll
> 05/04/2004  08:52 AM            61,519 intl.dll
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM           843,776 libeay32.dll
> 01/20/2005  06:25 AM           159,744 ssleay32.dll
> 03/31/2004  06:13 PM            61,440 SVNService.exe
>               14 File(s)      4,731,812 bytes
>
> Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not really seeing that supposed
> svn library that I can stick into a DL here.

I have these:
libsvn_client-1.0.0.0.dylib@
libsvn_client-1.0.dylib*
libsvn_client-1.dylib@

but judging from the size of svn.exe, libsvn_client (or whatever) might 
be compiled-in.  You'd have to ask the subversion people on how to 
generate the dlls.

>> Ruby SWIG wrappers for svn once existed, but bitrotted due to lack of
>> maintenance...
>
> Well, if you take a look in the subversion subversion repository,
> you'll see that they do exist and there's some nice unit tests and
> everything for them.  Kou has been working on them fairly recently I
> think.  But building for Windows isn't any easier, which, for the
> moment, seems to be my main problem.

Ah!  If that's your main problem, then your options are significantly 
different than I had imagined.  Unfortunately, I can't help much with 
the SWIG/windows stuff because I don't have a windows box.

Another responder says the ruby svn bindings work quite well, if you 
can get all the prerequisites built.  (Ugh.)

>> Really, I think you should check out DL, you'll quickly cut your
>> problems down to those of actually wrapping the svn dll/so rather than
>> trying to figure out why SWIG can't find your apr or svn headers.
>
> I like the sound of DL, but... since there doesn't seem to be any .so
> or .dll for the client, maybe it's not even possible?  I don't mind
> learning SWIG _too_ much, I still have some C knowledge buried in the
> attic, and I can dig it out if I don't have any choice.
>
> So I guess my question now is, can the svn client modify the metadata
> in place without writing to disk, or is a checkout necessary?  Same
> question for the stuff I'm able to do via the SWIG bindings or the
> mythical DL?  This is really the most important part to me I think.
>
> Since it appears that there's actually no svn client libraries
> packaged with svn, (presumably because the functionality is entirely
> within svn.exe?) then perhaps to use DL magic, I have to compile the
> SWIG stuff and then stick _that_ in the DL?  Can I get all of the
> resultant DL's (since SWIG seems to generate multiple libraries?) to
> package up nicely into one gem without much hassle?

I'd go hop back on the subversion lists and see what they can tell you 
about repoless actions and building a dll for windows.

> And is there any way to use the svn client to work directly with the
> repository in the way I want?  If not, how would you manage a
> reasonably large multi-user system with lots of different things being
> worked on, probably in some kind of temp directory?  Because right now
> I'm envisioning that kind of thing getting out of control really fast.
>
> And if it's not currently possible to edit metadata in place, would it
> be unreasonable to make that a feature request for subversion?

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