[#114484] Secret Santas (#2) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

56 messages 2004/10/01
[#114675] Secret Santas (#2) — Robo <robo@...> 2004/10/03

I'm still new to Ruby, but giving this a crack anyway.

[#114496] Community size — Dave Thomas <dave@...>

Folks:

15 messages 2004/10/01

[#114646] Kernel#eval taking a block — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...>

Is there a reason Kernel#eval won't take a block? I wrote this to overcome:

14 messages 2004/10/03
[#114729] Re: Kernel#eval taking a block — nobu.nokada@... 2004/10/04

Hi,

[#114654] Feature Request: Truly Indented Here-Docs — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

Ruby's here-doc syntax baffles me. I don't get the indent the end tag

11 messages 2004/10/03

[#114708] Thinking about Threaded IO — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

I've not used Ruby's threads before, so I have what will probably be

13 messages 2004/10/03

[#114824] A ruby course — Brian Schrer <ruby@...>

Hello List,

42 messages 2004/10/04
[#115001] Re: A ruby course — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2004/10/05

On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 3:17:47 AM, Brian wrote:

[#115042] Re: A ruby course — Brian Schrer <ruby@...> 2004/10/05

Hello Group,

[#114890] New [] Semantics — Bill Atkins <batkins57@...>

Currently, the following code

97 messages 2004/10/04
[#114910] Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics — Charles Comstock <cc1@...> 2004/10/05

Bill Atkins wrote:

[#114925] Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/05

On Monday 04 October 2004 09:09 pm, Charles Comstock wrote:

[#114938] Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics — Markus <markus@...> 2004/10/05

The ideas I'm (slowly) playing with for ranges:

[#114959] Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/05

On Tuesday 05 October 2004 01:25 am, Markus wrote:

[#115120] Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/06

Hi,

[#115128] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/06

On Tuesday 05 October 2004 08:19 pm, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#115159] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2004/10/06

On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 11:18:50AM +0900, trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#115196] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/06

On Wednesday 06 October 2004 05:15 am, Brian Candler wrote:

[#115345] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2004/10/07

Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:

[#115404] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/07

matz wrote:

[#115413] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2004/10/07

On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:11:11PM +0900, trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#115424] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/07

Brian, you make some excellent points, and clarify the issues. Thanks.

[#115514] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/08

Hi,

[#115527] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/08

On Thursday 07 October 2004 08:08 pm, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#115543] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/08

Hi,

[#115553] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/08

On Thursday 07 October 2004 11:42 pm, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#115569] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/08

Hi,

[#115626] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/08

On Friday 08 October 2004 04:31 am, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#115800] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/09

Hi,

[#115802] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — "Randy W. Sims" <ml-ruby@...> 2004/10/09

On 10/9/2004 4:28 AM, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#115807] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/09

Hi,

[#115809] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — "Randy W. Sims" <ml-ruby@...> 2004/10/09

On 10/9/2004 5:08 AM, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#115811] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/09

Hi,

[#115814] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — "Randy W. Sims" <ml-ruby@...> 2004/10/09

On 10/9/2004 5:33 AM, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#115817] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — gabriele renzi <rff_rff@...> 2004/10/09

Randy W. Sims ha scritto:

[#115820] Re: Range behavior (Re: [RCR] New [] Semantics) — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2004/10/09

On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 08:14:42PM +0900, gabriele renzi wrote:

[#114892] RubyGems and RPA — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

Having just read the RubyGems chapter in the Pickaxe II, I'm curious

31 messages 2004/10/04
[#114895] Re: RubyGems and RPA — Bill Atkins <batkins57@...> 2004/10/04

RPA and RubyGems both solve the same problem (automatic installation

[#114977] Re: RubyGems and RPA — Eivind Eklund <eeklund@...> 2004/10/05

Association disclaimer: I'm the original architect of the RPA vision

[#115194] Re: RubyGems and RPA — Chad Fowler <chadfowler@...> 2004/10/06

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:09:10 +0900, Eivind Eklund <eeklund@gmail.com> wrote:

[#115224] Re: RubyGems and RPA — Eivind Eklund <eeklund@...> 2004/10/06

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 22:48:07 +0900, Chad Fowler <chadfowler@gmail.com> wrote:

[#115251] Re: RubyGems and RPA — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2004/10/06

[#115260] Re: RubyGems and RPA — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/10/06

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 03:00:45 +0900, Richard Kilmer <rich@infoether.com> wrote:

[#114924] Regexp match question on interpolated strings... — Richard Kilmer <rich@...>

If I had the source for a string:

13 messages 2004/10/05

[#114927] Ruby-esque Inversion of Control — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>

First, let me just say THANK-YOU to everyone who gave me feedback on my

13 messages 2004/10/05
[#115046] Re: Ruby-esque Inversion of Control — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2004/10/05

I still don't think that Copland is in any way useful to me (I just

[#115095] Large disc-based "hash"? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2004/10/05

[#115195] quality of error messages — Joachim Wuttke <Joachim_Wuttke@...>

Hi Ruby developers,

101 messages 2004/10/06
[#115200] Re: quality of error messages — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2004/10/06

On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 10:48:49PM +0900, Joachim Wuttke wrote:

[#115207] Re: quality of error messages — Joachim Wuttke <Joachim_Wuttke@...> 2004/10/06

Encouraged by your quick response, I try to explain better

[#115212] Re: quality of error messages — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2004/10/06

On Thursday, October 7, 2004, 12:49:33 AM, Joachim wrote:

[#115264] Re: quality of error messages — Charles Hixson <charleshixsn@...> 2004/10/06

Gavin Sinclair wrote:

[#115268] Re: quality of error messages — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2004/10/06

On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 04:30:38AM +0900, Charles Hixson wrote:

[#115286] Re: quality of error messages — Joachim Wuttke <Joachim_Wuttke@...> 2004/10/06

Thank you, Brian.

[#115289] Re: quality of error messages — Markus <markus@...> 2004/10/06

On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 15:19, Joachim Wuttke wrote:

[#115460] Re: quality of error messages — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2004/10/07

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:39:04 +0900, Markus <markus@reality.com> wrote:

[#115484] Re: quality of error messages — Brian Schrer <ruby@...> 2004/10/07

Mark Hubbart wrote:

[#115511] Re: quality of error messages — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/07

Hi,

[#115596] Re: quality of error messages — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2004/10/08

On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 08:06:27AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#116200] Re: quality of error messages — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/10/11

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 20:26:55 +0900, Brian Candler <b.candler@pobox.com> wrote:

[#116211] Re: quality of error messages — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/12

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#116215] Ruby Directions (was Re: quality of error messages) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/10/12

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:21:16 +0900, Hal Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> wrote:

[#116216] Re: Ruby Directions (was Re: quality of error messages) — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2004/10/12

Hi --

[#116256] Re: Ruby Directions (was Re: quality of error messages) — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2004/10/12

[#116299] Re: Ruby Directions (was Re: quality of error messages) — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2004/10/12

On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, 5:09:37 PM, Robert wrote:

[#115493] Re: quality of error messages — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/10/07

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:39:04 +0900, Markus <markus@reality.com> wrote:

[#115513] Re: quality of error messages — markus@... 2004/10/07

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#115285] Bit of the Matz Interview (in Rubyist Magazine) — <ume@...>

I haven't translated it all yet (it's quite long to translate, and I'm just

38 messages 2004/10/06
[#115293] Re: Bit of the Matz Interview (in Rubyist Magazine) — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...> 2004/10/06

ume@lightsider.com wrote:

[#115299] Re: Bit of the Matz Interview (in Rubyist Magazine) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/06

Hi,

[#115301] Re: Bit of the Matz Interview (in Rubyist Magazine) — Chad Fowler <chadfowler@...> 2004/10/06

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:27:08 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto

[#115360] ndb Object-Relational Mapper — "George Moschovitis" <george.moschovitis@...>

= n/db README

25 messages 2004/10/07
[#115368] Re: [ANN] ndb Object-Relational Mapper — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2004/10/07

On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 08:14:53PM +0900, George Moschovitis wrote:

[#115407] Re: [ANN] ndb Object-Relational Mapper — "Kirk Haines" <khaines@...> 2004/10/07

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:20:37 +0900, Brian Candler wrote

[#115430] Re: [ANN] ndb Object-Relational Mapper — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2004/10/07

On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:31:37PM +0900, Kirk Haines wrote:

[#115583] Re: [ANN] ndb Object-Relational Mapper — George Moschovitis <gm@...> 2004/10/08

> I wrote a system once which incorporated this concept, but since it had a

[#115427] Sth. wrong with File.file? (or with me) — Michael Weller <michael@...>

Hi!

114 messages 2004/10/07
[#115435] Re: Sth. wrong with File.file? (or with me) — Mohammad Khan <mkhan@...> 2004/10/07

On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 12:30, Michael Weller wrote:

[#118265] true? & false? — Mohammad Khan <mkhan@...> 2004/10/29

Wouldn't it be nice to have two more methods true? and false? like nil?

[#118266] Re: true? & false? — Bill Atkins <batkins57@...> 2004/10/29

Why would that be nice? :)

[#118268] Re: true? & false? — Mohammad Khan <mkhan@...> 2004/10/29

I prefer something like,

[#118270] Re: true? & false? — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2004/10/29

On Oct 29, 2004, at 10:16 AM, Mohammad Khan wrote:

[#118276] Re: true? & false? — Mohammad Khan <mkhan@...> 2004/10/29

On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 11:22, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#118294] Re: true? & false? — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/10/29

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:47:31 +0900, Mohammad Khan <mkhan@lextranet.com> wrote:

[#118295] Re: true? & false? — Mohammad Khan <mkhan@...> 2004/10/29

On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 13:43, Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#118298] Another scrach on head — Mohammad Khan <mkhan@...> 2004/10/29

[#118299] Re: Another scrach on head — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...> 2004/10/29

Mohammad Khan wrote:

[#118304] Re: Another scrach on head — Mohammad Khan <mkhan@...> 2004/10/29

On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 14:05, Jamis Buck wrote:

[#118306] Re: Another scrach on head — Mohammad Khan <mkhan@...> 2004/10/29

On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 14:16, Mohammad Khan wrote:

[#118308] Re: Another scrach on head — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...> 2004/10/29

Mohammad Khan wrote:

[#118345] Re: Another scrach on head — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/30

Hi,

[#118596] Re: Another scrach on head — Mohammad Khan <mkhan@...> 2004/11/01

On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 00:03, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#118598] Re: Another scrach on head — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2004/11/01

Hi --

[#118602] Re: Another scrach on head — Ara.T.Howard@... 2004/11/01

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, David A. Black wrote:

[#118627] Re: Another scrach on head — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2004/11/01

[#118629] Re: Another scrach on head — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/11/01

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 05:47:18 +0900, Jim Weirich <jim@weirichhouse.org> wrote:

[#119859] Re: true? & false? — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2004/11/11

[#119879] Re: true? & false? — Mohammad Khan <mkhan@...> 2004/11/11

The main reason I brought up this issue is:

[#119938] Re: true? & false? — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/11/11

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:28:35 +0900, Mohammad Khan

[#119888] Re: true? & false? — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2004/11/11

[#119917] Re: true? & false? — Jean-Hugues ROBERT <jean_hugues_robert@...> 2004/11/11

Hi there,

[#119937] Re: true? & false? — Logan Capaldo <logancapaldo@...> 2004/11/11

Well I have written true? and false? methods in the past. Forgetting

[#119939] Re: true? & false? — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/11/11

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 04:47:27 +0900, Logan Capaldo

[#115455] RubyConf 2004 sessions available (audio/mp3) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...>

All,

24 messages 2004/10/07
[#115572] Re: [ANN] RubyConf 2004 sessions available (audio/mp3) — Mathieu Blondel <matt@...> 2004/10/08

[#115457] dev-utils v1.0 — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2004/10/07

[#115544] Re: quality of error messages — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

Yukihiro Matsumoto [mailto:matz@ruby-lang.org] wrote:

16 messages 2004/10/08
[#115545] Re: quality of error messages — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/08

Hi,

[#115546] Re: quality of error messages — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...> 2004/10/08

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#115551] Re: quality of error messages — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/08

Hi,

[#115586] rails vs Java Struts — Armin Roehrl <armin@...>

Hi,

26 messages 2004/10/08

[#115614] Geodesic Dome Faces (#3) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

31 messages 2004/10/08

[#115652] Problems with my first multithreaded Rupy programm — "Tassilo Horn" <heimdall@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2004/10/08

[#115684] ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Markus <markus@...>

All --

102 messages 2004/10/08
[#115698] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — gabriele renzi <rff_rff@...> 2004/10/08

Markus ha scritto:

[#115699] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/08

gabriele renzi wrote:

[#115705] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Markus <markus@...> 2004/10/08

On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 11:54, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#115713] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/08

Markus wrote:

[#115719] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Markus <markus@...> 2004/10/08

On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 12:43, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#115726] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/08

Markus wrote:

[#115830] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2004/10/09

Hi --

[#115796] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — gabriele renzi <rff_rff@...> 2004/10/09

Markus ha scritto:

[#115872] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Charles Hixson <charleshixsn@...> 2004/10/09

gabriele renzi wrote:

[#115955] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2004/10/10

On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 04:19:30AM +0900, Charles Hixson wrote:

[#115971] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/10

On Sunday 10 October 2004 05:48 am, Brian Candler wrote:

[#115988] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Markus <markus@...> 2004/10/10

On Sun, 2004-10-10 at 02:48, Brian Candler wrote:

[#116087] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/11

Hi,

[#115702] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Markus <markus@...> 2004/10/08

On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 11:44, gabriele renzi wrote:

[#115704] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — "Jason Voegele" <jason@...> 2004/10/08

Markus said:

[#115728] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Charles Hixson <charleshixsn@...> 2004/10/08

Jason Voegele wrote:

[#115752] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2004/10/08

[#115774] Re: ANN: Free-form-operators patch — Markus <markus@...> 2004/10/09

On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 15:39, Jim Weirich wrote:

[#115707] TempFile — Matt Maycock <ummaycoc@...>

[ummaycoc@localhost ummaycoc]$ ruby -v

18 messages 2004/10/08
[#115771] Re: TempFile — Ara.T.Howard@... 2004/10/09

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004, Matt Maycock wrote:

[#115881] Re: TempFile — Matt Maycock <ummaycoc@...> 2004/10/09

Nope :-(

[#115787] Definitive method for managing ruby installations — Carl Youngblood <carl.youngblood@...>

It seems like most ruby programmers build and install ruby from

13 messages 2004/10/09

[#115806] Re: Ruby is a slow performer — gabriele renzi <rff_rff@...>

Sergei Gnezdov ha scritto:

20 messages 2004/10/09
[#119298] Re: Ruby is a slow performer — Christian Szegedy <szegedy@...> 2004/11/05

gabriele renzi wrote:

[#119302] Re: Ruby is a slow performer — "David G. Andersen" <dga@...> 2004/11/05

On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 06:23:41AM +0900, Christian Szegedy scribed:

[#119366] Re: Ruby is a slow performer — Christian Szegedy <szegedy@...> 2004/11/06

David G. Andersen wrote:

[#115856] Hypergraph? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

I've looked a little at Hypergraph (http://hypergraph.sourceforge.net) and I

26 messages 2004/10/09
[#115899] Re: Hypergraph? — Kaspar Schiess <eule@...> 2004/10/09

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[#115885] Ruby VM Projects — "Mark Wassell" <mwassel@...>

There are a number of RubyVM machine projects some just starting, some

23 messages 2004/10/09

[#115954] DI service change notifications (Syringe) — leon breedt <bitserf@...>

hi,

14 messages 2004/10/10

[#116007] Putting some code out to DRY — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...>

13 messages 2004/10/10

[#116039] Ruby programming styles and new program? — Bill <bi11@...>

Hello,

17 messages 2004/10/11
[#116092] Re: Ruby programming styles and new program? — Eivind Eklund <eeklund@...> 2004/10/11

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:04:40 +0900, Bill <bi11@lynxview.com> wrote:

[#116096] case based on object class — George Moschovitis <gm@...>

Hello everyone,

14 messages 2004/10/11
[#116098] Re: [Q] case based on object class — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/11

George Moschovitis wrote:

[#116226] documentation as source — "Randy W. Sims" <ml-ruby@...>

Are there any Ruby modules that allow documentation to act as source

59 messages 2004/10/12
[#116281] Re: documentation as source — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...> 2004/10/12

Randy W. Sims wrote:

[#116284] Re: documentation as source — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2004/10/12

Bil Kleb wrote:

[#116566] Re: documentation as source — Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel@...> 2004/10/14

On Oct 12, 2004, at 07:39, Florian Gross wrote:

[#116693] Re: documentation as source — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/15

On Wednesday 13 October 2004 09:19 pm, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:

[#116983] Re: documentation as source — Massimiliano Mirra - bard <mmirra@...> 2004/10/18

Eivind Eklund <eeklund@gmail.com> writes:

[#117022] Re: documentation as source — Eivind Eklund <eeklund@...> 2004/10/19

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:09:22 +0900, Massimiliano Mirra - bard

[#117025] Re: documentation as source — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...> 2004/10/19

Eivind Eklund wrote:

[#117026] Re: documentation as source — Eivind Eklund <eeklund@...> 2004/10/19

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:33:57 +0900, Bil Kleb <bil.kleb@nasa.gov> wrote:

[#117029] Re: documentation as source — Peter Hickman <peter@...> 2004/10/19

Eivind Eklund wrote:

[#117033] Re: documentation as source — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2004/10/19

On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 11:08:35PM +0900, Peter Hickman wrote:

[#116271] "nan".to_f ? — Thomas Fini Hansen <beast@...>

I ran into this difference:

29 messages 2004/10/12
[#116276] Re: "nan".to_f ? — Stephan K舂per <Stephan.Kaemper@...> 2004/10/12

Hi Thomas, hi Rubyists

[#116340] Re: "nan".to_f ? — Markus <markus@...> 2004/10/12

[#116343] Re: "nan".to_f ? — Mikael Brockman <mikael@...> 2004/10/12

Markus <markus@reality.com> writes:

[#116354] Re: "nan".to_f ? — Stephan K舂per <Stephan.Kaemper@...> 2004/10/12

Mikael Brockman wrote:

[#116318] dev-utils v1.0.1 — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>

Hi folks,

13 messages 2004/10/12

[#116408] eRuby for Windows — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

I have a situation where I need to create/write static web pages using

15 messages 2004/10/13

[#116474] Gems Install Problem — jim@...

Hi

14 messages 2004/10/13

[#116478] Sharing variables across methods — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>

When writing short scripts (several pages long) I often want to share

17 messages 2004/10/13
[#116484] Re: Sharing variables across methods — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...> 2004/10/13

David Garamond wrote:

[#116546] using the RSS standard lib — Francis Hwang <sera@...>

Is anybody out there using the RSS standard lib that comes with Ruby

22 messages 2004/10/13
[#116552] Re: using the RSS standard lib — Nikolai Weibull <ruby-talk@...> 2004/10/13

* Francis Hwang <sera@fhwang.net> [Oct 13, 2004 23:10]:

[#116608] To all people writing BBS on Rails: let's join forces — Alexey Verkhovsky <alex@...>

I've noticed lately that there are at least four different projects

22 messages 2004/10/14

[#116615] Rounding to X digits — Eric Anderson <eric@...>

This seems like such a basic question yet I can't really find the answer

26 messages 2004/10/14
[#116662] Re: Rounding to X digits — Markus <markus@...> 2004/10/14

Here's mine (with a few extras):

[#116739] Re: Rounding to X digits — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/15

On Thursday 14 October 2004 01:55 pm, Markus wrote:

[#116652] Eating sandwiches in the park — Markus <markus@...>

30 messages 2004/10/14
[#116657] Re: Eating sandwiches in the park — Eivind Eklund <eeklund@...> 2004/10/14

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 02:13:35 +0900, Markus <markus@reality.com> wrote:

[#116661] Re: Eating sandwiches in the park — Brian Wisti <brianwisti@...> 2004/10/14

[#116701] drb, Session::Bash & FreeBSD — benny <listen@...>

Dear list,

17 messages 2004/10/15

[#116707] Can one simulate go to in Ruby? Is it possible? — Roman K9 <litleguy@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2004/10/15

[#116721] Again some problem with my multithreaded teadrinker app — "Tassilo Horn" <heimdall@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2004/10/15

[#117127] A concise description of Ruby? — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

Yesterday, a co-worker came into my office and saw the shiny, new pickaxe II

91 messages 2004/10/20
[#117150] Re: A concise description of Ruby? — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2004/10/20

On Oct 20, 2004, at 7:47 AM, Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#117161] Re: A concise description of Ruby? — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/10/20

I like most of the suggestions so far.

[#117192] Re: A concise description of Ruby? — Edgardo Hames <ehames@...> 2004/10/20

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:59:50 +0900, James Britt

[#117199] Re: A concise description of Ruby? — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2004/10/20

Edgardo Hames wrote:

[#117200] Python vs. Ruby (Re: A concise description of Ruby?) — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...> 2004/10/20

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#117231] Re: Python vs. Ruby (Re: A concise description of Ruby?) — Eivind Eklund <eeklund@...> 2004/10/20

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 04:06:35 +0900, Jamis Buck <jgb3@email.byu.edu> wrote:

[#117233] Re: Python vs. Ruby (Re: A concise description of Ruby?) — gabriele renzi <rff_rff@...> 2004/10/20

Eivind Eklund ha scritto:

[#117165] Re: A concise description of Ruby? — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...> 2004/10/20

On Wednesday 20 October 2004 14:47, Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#117166] Re: A concise description of Ruby? — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/10/20

Simon Strandgaard wrote:

[#117170] Re: A concise description of Ruby? — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2004/10/20

James Britt wrote:

[#117273] CamelCase issues — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>

Hi,

30 messages 2004/10/21

[#117331] A little help on finding the closest match — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...>

Better way to find the closest match?

14 messages 2004/10/22

[#117459] RubyForge has been slow today because... — Richard Kilmer <rich@...>

Some freaking dork at the following IP address(s) was continually

76 messages 2004/10/24
[#117463] Garden Spam (was: RubyForge has been slow today because...) — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/24

Speaking of attacks, I jumped over to the Garden Wiki just now and see that

[#117464] Re: Garden Spam — David Ross <dross@...> 2004/10/24

trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#117474] Re: Garden Spam — gabriele renzi <rff_rff@...> 2004/10/24

David Ross ha scritto:

[#117485] Re: Garden Spam — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/24

On Sunday 24 October 2004 06:29 am, gabriele renzi wrote:

[#117495] Re: Garden Spam — David Ross <dross@...> 2004/10/24

trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#117509] Re: Garden Spam — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/24

On Sunday 24 October 2004 10:52 am, David Ross wrote:

[#117517] Re: Garden Spam — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...> 2004/10/24

trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#117586] Re: Garden Spam — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/10/25

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:24:51 +0900, Jamis Buck <jgb3@email.byu.edu> wrote:

[#117588] Re: Garden Spam — Joey Gibson <joey@...> 2004/10/25

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#117591] Re: Garden Spam — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...> 2004/10/25

Joey Gibson wrote:

[#117595] Re: Garden Spam — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/25

On Monday 25 October 2004 11:35 am, Jamis Buck wrote:

[#117483] String#first / String#last — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

problem:

30 messages 2004/10/24
[#117538] Re: [rcr] String#first / String#last — djberg96@... (Daniel Berger) 2004/10/24

Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@adslhome.dk> wrote in message news:<200410241718.48182.neoneye@adslhome.dk>...

[#117543] Re: [rcr] String#first / String#last — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/25

Daniel Berger wrote:

[#117557] Re: [rcr] String#first / String#last — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/25

Hi,

[#117540] Writing documentation in YAML - any advice? — "Its Me" <itsme213@...>

It will be a decent sized document. WinXP platform.

15 messages 2004/10/24

[#117598] Server Programming — Andy Stone <xsltguru@...>

Hello all,

20 messages 2004/10/25
[#117676] Re: Server Programming — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2004/10/25

Hi Andy,

[#117685] Re: Server Programming — Andy Stone <xsltguru@...> 2004/10/26

Hello Francis,

[#117689] Re: Server Programming — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2004/10/26

Andy Stone wrote:

[#117675] Errors in line numbers reported? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Has anyone ever seen Ruby report incorrect line numbers

37 messages 2004/10/25
[#117696] Re: Errors in line numbers reported? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/26

Hi,

[#117698] Re: Errors in line numbers reported? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/26

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#117778] Re: Errors in line numbers reported? — nobu.nokada@... 2004/10/26

Hi,

[#117699] Re: Errors in line numbers reported? — Ara.T.Howard@... 2004/10/26

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#117705] Re: Errors in line numbers reported? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/10/26

Hi,

[#117712] Re: Errors in line numbers reported? — Ara.T.Howard@... 2004/10/26

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#117721] Re: Errors in line numbers reported? — Markus <markus@...> 2004/10/26

On Mon, 2004-10-25 at 20:54, Ara.T.Howard@noaa.gov wrote:

[#117731] Re: Errors in line numbers reported? — ts <decoux@...> 2004/10/26

>>>>> "M" == Markus <markus@reality.com> writes:

[#117811] New RCRchive is open — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

Dear Rubyists --

14 messages 2004/10/26

[#117836] Auto-completion editor/IDE — "Eli Tucker" <eli-news@...>

Does anyone have any info on an IDE or editor that supports

17 messages 2004/10/26

[#117839] New RubyGarden article: "Reflections on Rails" — Chad Fowler <chadfowler@...>

Rubyists,

10 messages 2004/10/27

[#117854] Name Dropping — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

I'm in the final leg of preparing for a presentation I'm giving on Friday to

18 messages 2004/10/27

[#117929] The real Ruby vs. Python. — Abe Vionas_MailingList <mailinglist_abe@...>

What it comes down to is what it's coming down to for

71 messages 2004/10/27
[#117937] Re: The real Ruby vs. Python. — Alexander Kellett <ruby-lists@...> 2004/10/27

On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 11:11:19PM +0900, Abe Vionas_MailingList wrote:

[#117967] Gems as key? Re: The real Ruby vs. Python. — "Its Me" <itsme213@...> 2004/10/27

[#118026] Re: Gems as key? Re: The real Ruby vs. Python. — "Its Me" <itsme213@...> 2004/10/27

"Eivind Eklund" <eeklund@gmail.com> wrote in message

[#118046] Re: Gems as key? Re: The real Ruby vs. Python. — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2004/10/27

On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 05:49:02AM +0900, Its Me wrote:

[#118054] Re: Gems as key? Re: The real Ruby vs. Python. — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/28

Then it sounds like that RubyGems needs to adopt the framework of RPA, and

[#118058] Re: Gems as key? Re: The real Ruby vs. Python. — David Ross <dross@...> 2004/10/28

You can create your own packages with RPA as well. RPA doesnt have an

[#118073] Re: Gems as key? Re: The real Ruby vs. Python. — Andreas Schwarz <usenet@...> 2004/10/28

David Ross wrote:

[#118097] Re: Gems as key? Re: The real Ruby vs. Python. — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2004/10/28

On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 01:44:00PM +0900, Andreas Schwarz wrote:

[#118098] Re: Gems as key? Re: The real Ruby vs. Python. — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2004/10/28

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Mauricio Fern疣dez wrote:

[#118106] Re: Gems as key? Re: The real Ruby vs. Python. — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2004/10/28

On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 09:08:08PM +0900, David A. Black wrote:

[#117982] Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Dan Janowski <danj@3skel.com>

I can understand floating point errors, but this one seems too small

84 messages 2004/10/27
[#117984] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Walter Szewelanczyk <walter@...> 2004/10/27

Dan Janowski wrote:

[#117987] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Bill Atkins <batkins57@...> 2004/10/27

OK, that would make sense if v's value was 994.5, but it seems to be

[#117993] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...> 2004/10/27

Bill Atkins wrote:

[#118005] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Jason DiCioccio <jd@...> 2004/10/27

Hello!

[#118006] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — "David G. Andersen" <dga@...> 2004/10/27

On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 04:49:28AM +0900, Jason DiCioccio scribed:

[#118020] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/27

David G. Andersen wrote:

[#118053] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — markus@... 2004/10/28

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#118055] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/28

On Wednesday 27 October 2004 08:22 pm, markus@reality.com wrote:

[#118126] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Markus <markus@...> 2004/10/28

On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 17:40, trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#118215] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/29

On Thursday 28 October 2004 12:13 pm, Markus wrote:

[#118216] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/29

trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#118341] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/30

On Friday 29 October 2004 03:00 am, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#118344] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/30

trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#118349] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/30

On Saturday 30 October 2004 12:00 am, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#118019] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/27

Jason DiCioccio wrote:

[#118025] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/27

On Wednesday 27 October 2004 04:36 pm, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#118028] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/10/27

trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#118029] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...> 2004/10/27

trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#118086] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2004/10/28

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 05:57:53 +0900, Jamis Buck <jgb3@email.byu.edu> wrote:

[#118113] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Dan Janowski <danj@3skel.com> 2004/10/28

I just want to thank all of you for a stimulating, interesting and, in

[#118125] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/10/28

On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:06 am, Dan Janowski wrote:

[#118132] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Charles Mills <cmills@...> 2004/10/28

On Oct 28, 2004, at 9:12 AM, trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#118141] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 * 9.95).to_i == 994 — Guillaume Marcais <guslist@...> 2004/10/28

On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 04:23, Mark Hubbart wrote:

[#118153] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 2000 2001 Desktop Money Projects Protege.png Protege_2.1 Q3.DIR Quicken RCS Screenshot-1.png Screenshot-2.png Screenshot-3.png Screenshot.png afs-backup afshome amixer.works b basic.edl bin bruin-woods c4isr.owl c4isr.pprj cellphones.sxc comedi comedilib config config-n6uni config.austin conv-factors.sxc debian drvinfo.txt dry.xml ds-tools emachines evolution float.sxc fnfix foomatic-db-current.tar.gz grp-backup iFog-Aqua20-1.tar.gz id_dsa.pub income jimo-core-sjenkins job-search ken-cole latex2docbook letters lfront log mbse modules n6uni-etc.tar.gz n6uni-home.tar.gz n6uni.tar.gz nasa nisotr old-ruby-tools openafs photos pickaxe2.pdf rdtmerge resume rexml.sxc ruby-bug ruby-oscon.sxi ruby-tidal ruby-tools smbmount.3.0.7 software themes tidal-3-11 tidal-3-5-patches tidal-cvsroot-archive tidal-data tidal-head tidal-poster-corrected.ppt tidal-poster.ppt tidal-web tidal-xdemo tidalsim.tar.gz uuid vim-ruby-snapshot-2003-10-12 wet.xml yepp 9.95).to_i == 994 — Steven Jenkins <steven.jenkins@...> 2004/10/28

Guillaume Marcais wrote:

[#118169] Re: Rounding error, (100.0 2000 2001 Desktop Money Projects Protege.png Protege_2.1 Q3.DIR Quicken RCS Screenshot-1.png Screenshot-2.png Screenshot-3.png Screenshot.png afs-backup afshome amixer.works b basic.edl bin bruin-woods c4isr.owl c4isr.pprj cellphones.sxc comedi comedilib config config-n6uni config.austin conv-factors.sxc debian drvinfo.txt dry.xml ds-tools emachines evolution float.sxc fnfix foomatic-db-current.tar.gz grp-backup iFog-Aqua20-1.tar.gz id_dsa.pub income jimo-core-sjenkins job-search ken-cole latex2docbook letters lfront log mbse modules n6uni-etc.tar.gz n6uni-home.tar.gz n6uni.tar.gz nasa nisotr old-ruby-tools openafs photos pickaxe2.pdf rdtmerge resume rexml.sxc ruby-bug ruby-oscon.sxi ruby-tidal ruby-tools smbmount.3.0.7 software themes tidal-3-11 tidal-3-5-patches tidal-cvsroot-archive tidal-data tidal-head tidal-poster-corrected.ppt tidal-poster.ppt tidal-web tidal-xdemo tidalsim.tar.gz uuid vim-ruby-snapshot-2003-10-12 wet.xml yepp 9.95).to_i == 994 — Guillaume Marcais <guslist@...> 2004/10/28

On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 14:29, Steven Jenkins wrote:

[#118211] Thread::list and GC — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

15 messages 2004/10/29

[#118249] RubyGarden wiki patch — Chad Fowler <chadfowler@...>

FYI, I've just implemented this

33 messages 2004/10/29
[#118252] Re: RubyGarden wiki patch — David Ross <dross@...> 2004/10/29

Chad Fowler wrote:

[#118387] Re: RubyGarden wiki patch — Brian =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Schr=F6der?= <ruby@...> 2004/10/30

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:13:51 +0900

[#118388] Re: RubyGarden wiki patch — David Ross <dross@...> 2004/10/30

Brian Schrer wrote:

[#118392] Re: RubyGarden wiki patch — Mikael Brockman <mikael@...> 2004/10/30

David Ross <dross@code-exec.net> writes:

[#118395] Re: RubyGarden wiki patch — David Ross <dross@...> 2004/10/30

Mikael Brockman wrote:

[#118360] Ruby on Rails presentation added to the WhyRuby repository — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

I just added my presentation of Ruby on Rails to the WhyRuby repository.

13 messages 2004/10/30

[#118423] Flea vs RubyGarden — "Phlip" <phlip_cpp@...>

Rubistas:

15 messages 2004/10/30

[#118447] New Ruby conditional semantics thoughts — Brian Mitchell <binary42@...>

The basic background was begun by someone asking a question about

12 messages 2004/10/30

FAQ for comp.lang.ruby

From: hal9000@...
Date: 2004-10-17 06:23:54 UTC
List: ruby-talk #116890
RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2004-10-16)

This FAQ contains information for those who want to:

  1) learn more about Ruby, and want to 
  2) post to comp.lang.ruby or to the ruby-lang mail list, or want to
  3) provide anonymous feedback to help us improve Ruby.

This FAQ will be posted monthly. If you are reading the text version
via the mailing list or the newsgroup, note that you can find it on 
the web at: http://rubyhacker.com/clrFAQ.html

A German version of this FAQ is maintained by Josef "Jupp" Schugt. It can be 
found at: http://oss.erdfunkstelle.de/ruby/

Note that this is *not* the Ruby language FAQ! This can be found at:
http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum/

TABLE OF CONTENTS

    1 About Ruby
    1.1 What is Ruby?
    1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
    2 About comp.lang.ruby.
    2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby.
    2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
    2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
    2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
    2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers?
    2.6 What is "POLS"?
    3 Anything else?

1 About Ruby

1.1 What is Ruby?

    Ruby is a very high level, fully OO programming language. Indeed,
    Ruby is one of the relatively few pure OO languages. Yet despite
    its conceptual simplicity, Ruby is still a powerful and practical
    "industrial strength" development language.  

    Ruby selectively integrates many good ideas taken from Perl,
    Python, Smalltalk, Eiffel, ADA, CLU, and LISP. Ruby combines 
    these ideas in a natural, well-coordinated system that embodies 
    the principles of least effort and least surprise to a 
    substantially greater extent than most comparable languages -- 
    i.e., you get more bang for your buck, and what you write is more
    likely to give you what you expected to get.  Ruby is thus a 
    relatively easy to learn, easy to read, and easy to maintain 
    language; yet it is very powerful and sophisticated.  

    In addition to common OO features, Ruby also has threads,
    singleton methods, mixins, fully integrated closures and
    iterators, plus proper meta-classes.   Ruby has a true
    mark-and-sweep garbage collector, which makes code more reliable
    and simplifies writing extensions.  In summary, Ruby provides a
    very powerful and very easy to deploy "standing on the shoulders
    of giants" OO scaffolding/framework so that you can more quickly
    and easily build what you want to build, to do what you want to
    do.  
    
    You will find many former (and current) Perl, Python, Java, and
    C++ users on comp.lang.ruby that can help you get up to speed in
    Ruby.

    Finally, Ruby is an "open source" development programming
    language.  

1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?

    Ruby's home web site:
    
        http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/  (Ruby home page)

            Follow the links to documentation, downloads, the Ruby
            Application Archive, the Ruby mail list archives, and 
	    lots of other interesting information.  
    
    RubyCentral.COM (Ruby's other major on-line docs and links site):
    
        http://www.rubycentral.com/  

    RubyCentral.ORG (Home of RubyCentral, Inc.)
    
        http://www.rubycentral.org/  

    RubyGarden (An important wiki site, very content-rich)

        http://rubygarden.org/

    Ruby FAQ: 
    
        http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum/

    Ruby User's Guide (introductory tutorial):

        http://www.ruby-lang.org/~slagell/ruby/

    Ruby Reference Manual:

        http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/doc.html

    Ruby core reference (classes, modules, methods):

        http://www.rubycentral.com/ref/

    Note: The list of books below is now frozen. I don't
    want to maintain this forever. We all hope the number
    of Ruby books increases, of course.

    English language Ruby books (recent publication order):

        Making Use of Ruby
	by Suresh Mahadevan
	Wiley; ISBN 0-471-21972-X (2002)

        Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days
        by Mark Slagell
        Sams; ISBN: 0672322528 (March, 2002)

        Ruby Developer's Guide
        by Michael Neumann, Robert Feldt, Lyle Johnson
        Publishers Group West; ISBN: 1928994644 (February, 2002)

        The Ruby Way
        by Hal Fulton
        Sams; ISBN: 0672320835 (December, 2001)

        Ruby In A Nutshell
        by Yukihiro Matsumoto
        O'Reilly & Associates; ISBN: 0596002149 (November, 2001)

        Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
        by Dave Thomas and Andrew Hunt
        Addison Wesley; ISBN: 0201710897 (2000)
        (As of Sept 2004, there is a second edition also. It is
         not open-sourced at this time.)
        Online version: http://www.rubycentral.com/book/
	(Note that this is a *legal* first edition.)
        Download: 
	  http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/downloads/book.html
        Errata: 
	  http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/errata/errata.html

    German language Ruby books (author alpha order):

        Das Einsteigerseminar Ruby. Der methodische und 
        ausfrliche Einstieg.
        by Dirk Engel and Klaus Spreckelsen 
        ISBN: 3826672429

        Programmieren mit Ruby
        by Armin Roehrl, Stefan Schmiedl, Clemens Wyss, et al.
        dpunkt.de; ISBN 3898641511 (February, 2002)
	Online: http://www.approximity.com/rubybuch2/node1_main.html

        Programmieren mit Ruby. Handbuch f den pragmatischen 
        Programmierer.
	Dave Thomas & Andy Hunt
        Addison-Wesley, 2002; ISBN: 382731965X.
        A German translation of the "Pickaxe" (Programming Ruby).

	Pickaxe translation by Juergen Katins: 
	  http://home.vr-web.de/juergen.katins/ruby/buch/

    Search past postings to comp.lang.ruby or the ruby-lang mail list
    (which have been mirrored to each other since mid-2000):

        http://groups.google.com/groups?q=comp.lang.ruby
        http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/ruby/ruby-talk/index.shtml

    Local Ruby users and groups in your area:

        http://www.pragprog.com/ruby?RubyUserGroups

2 About comp.lang.ruby

2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby

    comp.lang.ruby was officially approved in early May, 2000. 
    (Conrad Schneiker, the former maintainer of this FAQ, was 
    responsible for the "net paperwork" of creating this group.)
    Here is the official charter:

        CHARTER: comp.lang.ruby

        The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup is devoted to discussions of the
        Ruby programming language and related issues.

        Examples of relevant postings include, but are not limited
        to, the following subjects:

        - Bug reports
        - Announcements of software written with Ruby
        - Examples of Ruby code
        - Suggestions for Ruby developers
        - Requests for help from new Ruby programmers

        The newsgroup is not moderated.  Binaries are prohibited
        (except the small PGP type). Advertising is prohibited (except
        for announcements of new Ruby-related products).

        END CHARTER.

2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.

    (You should also follow these guidelines for the ruby-list mail
    list, since it is mirrored to comp.lang.ruby.) 

    (1) ALWAYS be friendly, considerate, tactful, and tasteful.  We
        want to keep this forum hospitable to the growing ranks of
        newbies, very young people, and their teachers, as well as
        cater to fire breathing wizards.  :-)

    (2) Keep your content relevant and easy to follow. Try to keep
        your content brief and to the point, but also try to include
        all relevant information.

        (a) The general format guidelines (aka USENET Netiquette) are
            matters of common sense and common courtesy that make life
            easier for 3rd parties to follow along (in real time or 
            when perusing archives):

            - PLEASE NOTE! Include quoted text from previous posts
              *BEFORE* your responses. And *selectively* quote as much
              as is relevant. 
            - Use *plain* text; don't use HTML, RTF, or Word. Most
              mail or newsreader programs have an option for this; if
              yours doesn't, get a (freeware) program or use a
              web-based service that does.
            - Include examples from files as *in-line* text; don't
              use attachments.

        (b) If reporting a problem, give *all* the relevant
            information the first time; this isn't the psychic friends
            newsgroup.  :-)  When appropriate, include:

            - The version of Ruby. ("ruby -v")
            - The compiler name and version used to build Ruby.
            - The OS type and level. ("uname -a")
            - The actual error messages.
            - An example (preferably simple) that produces the
              problem.

        (c) If reporting a bug, please copy (cc:) your post to:

                mailto:ruby-bugs@ruby-lang.org

            This will enter your report into the Ruby bug database.
            You can browse the database at:

                http://www.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/ruby-bugs

    (3) Make the subject line maximally informative, so that people
        who should be interested will read your post and so that people
        who wouldn't be interested can easily avoid it.  

        *Usefully* describe the contents of your post:

            This is OK: 
            
                "How can I do x with y on z?"
                "Problem: did x, expected y, got z."
                "BUG: doing x with module y crashed z."

            This is *NOT* OK:

                "Please help!!!"
                "Newbie question"
                "Need Ruby guru to tell me what's wrong"

	    These prefixes have become common for subject lines:

                ANN:  (for announcements)
	        BUG:  (for bug reports)
	        OT:   (for off-topic, if you must post off-topic)
    
    (4) Finally, be considerate: don't be too lazy. If you are
        seeking information, first make a reasonable effort to look it
        up. As appropriate, check the Ruby home page, check the Ruby
	FAQ and other documentation, use google.com to search past
        comp.lang.ruby postings, and so on.  

2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.

    Matz (aka Yukihiro Matsumoto) is the wizard who created Ruby for
    us, so be nice to him. He is very busy, so be patient when asking
    questions. See the Ruby home page to find out more about him and
    his work. I (Conrad Schneiker) founded comp.lang.ruby at his 
    suggestion. Contrary to lots of skepticism, it was approved on 
    the first attempt, with 200 yes votes.

2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?

    The mailing list is older. When the newsgroup was created, they
    diverged. In mid-2001, Dave Thomas created a two-way gateway 
    that would "mirror" the newsgroup to the list and vice versa.
    (This was accomplished in 200 lines of Ruby code.) It is not 
    perfect; because of variability in the news feed, sometimes 
    messages are dropped or duplicated.

    The online archive of the mailing list therefore includes most
    of the traffic on the newsgroup, excluding the posts that were
    made before the creation of the gateway.

    Note: Spam or other inappropriate messages are NOT the 
    responsibility of Dave Thomas, who maintains the gateway. He
    does everything in his power to deal with this issue. Do NOT
    report spam to his ISP merely because the messages come from
    his server.

2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers?

    Historically, every item on the mailing list had a subject
    starting with a string like: [ruby-talk:99999]

    The message numbers were convenient since they were strictly
    serial and formed a good way to refer to a past message. But
    they interfered with threading; Matz removed them after the
    matter was put to a vote in early 2002.

    The news header still refers to this number, should anyone
    wish to retrieve it. On the mailing list this number can
    now be found in the X-Mail-Count: header.

    You can point to a specific message by appending it onto the
    ruby-talk.com URL; i.e. http://ruby-talk.com/12345 will refer
    to message 12345.

2.6 What is "POLS"?

    POLS is an abbreviation for "Principle of Least Surprise" (also 
    called the Law of Least Astonishment).

    This term certainly did not originate in the Ruby community, but 
    it has been frequently used there -- even overused or abused at 
    times. After all, *every* language or software system seeks at 
    some level to adhere to this principle. Is any system designed 
    to be unintuitive?

    It is inappropriate to invoke POLS as a "magic word" when one's 
    individual expectations are not met. Ruby continues to evolve, 
    and Matz often makes changes based on people wishes, needs, or 
    suggestions. But he cannot be bribed or threatened. Make 
    suggestions if you wish, but think twice before mentioning POLS.


3. Anything else?

    If you are new to Ruby (or haven't previously taken the Ruby User
    Survey), please take a moment to anonymously tell us about your
    programming background and about your Ruby-related interests. The
    results will be reported back to the Ruby community from time to
    time. This helps us do a better job of helping each other, and to
    more effectively expand the Ruby community for our mutual benefit.
    The survey is at:

        http://dev.rubycentral.com/survey.html

    This FAQ was originally produced by Conrad Schneiker.
    It is now maintained by Hal Fulton (hal9000@hypermetrics.com).
    I'm interested in corrections and suggestions, but remember that
    the purpose of this FAQ is to be a brief and simple introduction
    for new comp.lang.ruby readers.  
    
    In closing, one of the reasons that Ruby was designed to be
    relatively simple, uniform, yet very powerful was to make serious
    programming (among other kinds) fun.  We hope you will help us
    keep comp.lang.ruby fun as well. Enjoy.  :-)

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