From: Simon Conrad-Armes <curne@...> (Curne)
Date: 2004-10-10T21:30:38+09:00
Subject: Re: Content Managing System in Ruby


On Oct 9, 2004, at 3:24 AM, Eric Hodel wrote:

> On Oct 7, 2004, at 10:04 AM, Mathieu Blondel wrote:
>
>>  > They exist.  They may not be publically released, but they exist.
>
> ZenWeb - http://zenspider.com/ZSS/Products/ZenWeb/index.html
>
> Long in existence.
>
>> In fact, I would prefer to see public ones :)
>>
>>> Paul Vudmaska (paul, are you still lurking?) has a nice looking 
>>> system that he created for a bunch of his clients.  It's done 
>>> directly with mod_ruby/eruby without the benefit of any other 
>>> framework.  That one is, or was, publically available at some 
>>> version.  If Paul isn't listening, I'll see if I can find out what 
>>> the state of that is and report back.
>>
>> I may end up to do a CMS for my site and in this case I would release 
>> it publically.
>>
>> I think I wouldn't use big frameworks either.
>>
>> Some features I need would be :
>> - XML based structures content
>
> You really don't want this.  Really.

That's a tad arrogant, isn't it? If poster needs XML structured 
content, that is what he needs. I too would consider it requirement of 
a good CMS to have a good understanding of XML and namespaces.

> ZenWeb works with plain text files with simple markup, much easier to 
> edit.
>

Depends on what tools you are using.

>> - Good metadata system
>
> ZenWeb has an awesome hierarchical metadata system.  Truly, truly 
> awesome.  (Truly.)
>
>> - Roles and rights (abouts users and files)
>
> Since ZenWeb is based on files, you can control this at the FS level.
>

This is far too impractical for large numbers of files. You would end 
up implementing chmod interface for it anyhow and it would be hell to 
track and display nicely.

>> - i18n
>
> Tricky, but possible with the nifty renderers ZenWeb has.
>
>> - workflows
>
> Not built-in.
>
>> - versionning
>
> CVS.
>
>> - groupware
>
> What does this mean?
>


Personally I think Bricollage (written in perl, http://bricolage.cc/) 
has a nice feature set. If something like it existed in Ruby I would 
certainly use it.

/Curne