From: Austin Ziegler Date: 2004-10-31T01:18:20+09:00 Subject: Re: RubyGarden wiki patch On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:57:15 +0900, David Ross wrote: > <>Oh, Thanks Mikael, I'm not great with sound recognition. I asked > others on irc and they had no idea what it meant. I've to disagree about > them being in the trash though. Chad lied, thats worse than arguing. He > lied about having a RBL, and he lied about the 0%. You're an ass, David, and you do more harm for the things that you suggest than you could ever believe because you revel in being a first-class ass. There is no evidence that Chad lied. You're pretending that RBLs are ideal solutions. As I've told you before, they're not. There are various RBLs to query -- and you don't know what list(s) that Chad is/was querying (nor does it *matter*). New ones appear regularly, old ones disappear regularly. Various RBLs have varying political policies (such as the list you mentioned that blocks all dynamic IPs) that make them inappropriate. RBLs must be managed as often as not. When Ruwiki supports RBL querying, the RBL will be disabled unless you have three RBLs that you query and then it requires a majority vote between the RBLs. Frankly, I'm far more willing to believe Chad on this than I'd ever believe you, because you're not necessarily querying the RBLs that Chad is querying -- and you're not necessarily querying it at the same time that RubyGarden's wiki was doing so. >I don't care if I look like a bad guy on this one, becasue I just plainly >don't care, but I am 100% right. No, you're not. Even if you had a 5% chance of being right, your attitude has made you 1000% wrong. You want to do something with it? Start your own Ruby wiki website and run it according to the policies that you prefer. And listen to the crickets. > I spent an hour checking spammer IPs on RubyGarden, it would certainly get > over 80%, and the people who spammed from hosts not listed were mostly > proxies (common and elite ports) or gone by the time I checked them from > being Dynamic IP adrresses. Sorry you feel that way about the truth, not many > people can have deep knowledge in security or have the experience. And you obviously have neither the knowledge nor the experience. RBLs aren't even acknowledged as a 100% solution by the people who run them. What makes you think that you know better? -austin -- Austin Ziegler * halostatue@gmail.com * Alternate: austin@halostatue.ca : as of this email, I have [ 5 ] Gmail invitations