From: "trans. (T. Onoma)" Date: 2004-10-26T03:01:42+09:00 Subject: Re: Garden Spam On Monday 25 October 2004 01:49 pm, David G. Andersen wrote: | On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:54:57AM +0900, trans. (T. Onoma) scribed: | > On Monday 25 October 2004 11:35 am, Jamis Buck wrote: | > | ASCII art will still suffer from accessibility issues, since a screen | > | reader will not be able to read the ASCII art in any intelligible way | > | to the user. :( However, it is an ingenious approach...I'm tempted to | > | look into that, JFTHOI. | > | > There is no way to do otherwise for a captcha system. How would a blind | > person every be able to use a captcha system? | > | > And a poor man's captcha is hardly a defense at all. | | If it's effective, it's a great defense. You're falling prey | to "the perfect is the enemy of the good" -- while you're sitting | around worrying about an attacker one-upping a simple captcha | system, the RubyGarden webpages are being turned into an utterly | useless cesspool of spam. This discussion has been going on | for literally months, during which the majority of the updates | to RubyGarden look like: No no. You misunderstand me. I fully agree. I have already offered to do it myself, in fact. But if I'm doing it, I may as well go ahead and do something that I know will hold the fort --it's not that much more trouble. I fear Garden has some intent spammers. I looked at this poor man's captcha system and it can be hacked in about 3 seconds. So something better is needed. No sense in doing something twice when it can be done the first time. But like I said, I don't know what the hold up is either. There are a couple of clear choices that will help lots --even full moderation would be better the current situation. T.