From: David Ross Date: 2004-10-30T23:58:57+09:00 Subject: Re: RubyGarden wiki patch David Ross wrote: > trans. (T. Onoma) wrote: > >> On Saturday 30 October 2004 09:40 am, Mikael Brockman wrote: >> | David Ross writes: >> | > Brian Schræ—¦der wrote: >> | > >On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:13:51 +0900 >> | > > >> | > >David Ross wrote: >> | > >> Then you wouldn't mind giving out the server logs for us to >> confirm >> | > >> you are telling the truth. >> | > > >> | > >PLONK >> | > >> | > /me blinks >> | > >> | > what does "PLONK" mean? >> | >> | Well, metaphorically, it means dumping your hostile allegations >> against >> | the provider of a free service where it rightfully belongs: the trash. >> | Technically, it means you're killfiled. >> >> Killfile? >> >> Well, we all know D. Ross is about as rude as they come. I've sort of >> just come to accept it as a personality "disability", if you will. >> Between all his bravado their is some valuable info though. >> >> But I'm wondering why Chad hasn't as least made a statement on the >> matter. I can understand that he might not want get into it with >> Ross. I wouldn't either. But the rest of us might like to know about >> his work on the RBL matter. I for one do not really want >> authentication --if at all avoidable. >> >> Hopefully the cap-letters trick will help for while. >> >> T. >> "Pride is terrible thing; learn to waste it." >> >> >> >> > I've actually bee thinking of writing some code for usemod to check > RBL, and DSBL.. though it might be best to just write a checker daemon > in Ruby and set up a unix pipe. Since there are the other percent > which are running proxies on the computers(common and elite port) > which I have to dread. Whcih means... scanning selected ports and then > trying to see if they are open proxies(whether it be HTTP, SOCKS, etc) > This is s big problem to those who dislike being scanned. To many > (even me) its like knocking on someones door to see if anyone is home. > This is the best way to identify spammers though. Authentication, HTTP > limiting is obfuscation, its a horrible way to block. When I think > obfuscation I think compiling. Just because you compile a C > application with a exploit you know in the program doesnt mean anyone > will find it, people look at it anyway. So therefore obfuscation can > easily be overridden, even if there are captachas. Hiding the problem > doesn't help., but fixing the problem will help. > > David Ross wrong. The ruby scanner won't work, it will have to be done in C/C++ since Ruby has lack of support for Socket. It only has CONNECT, not SYN, FIN. Something would need to be written at a lower level. David Ross -- Hazzle free packages for Ruby? RPA is available from http://www.rubyarchive.org/