From: Curt Hibbs <curt@...>
Date: 2004-10-28T03:00:08+09:00
Subject: Re: Gems as key? Re: The real Ruby vs. Python.

Michael DeHaan wrote:
>
> Dare I say it, but cloning CPAN near-exactly wouldn't be a bad way to go.
>
> And that means putting RPAN (or whatever) as part of the Ruby standard
> library, having college mirrors, doing dependancy checking, and so
> forth.

This is not quite the same thing, but...

The One-Click Ruby Installer for Windows is going to include RubyGems and a
GUI interface to RubyGems. RubyGems will be in the final 1.8.2 release of
the installer (hopefully the GUI interface will be ready in time to be
included as well). It is also possible that a follow-on release would
contain RPA (and a corresponding GUI interface).

Curt


> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:12:24 +0900, David Ross
> <dross@code-exec.net> wrote:
> > Its Me wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >"Abe Vionas_MailingList" <mailinglist_abe@yahoo.com> wrote
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>What it comes down to is what it's coming down to for
> > >>me... platform maturity.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >This bites me quite often as well, though I have not given up.
> There are
> > >likely hordes of unwashed masses like me, not entirely adept at
> > >source-patch-recompile-rebuild, who never even get started
> with Ruby because
> > >of the kinds of issues Abe describes.
> > >
> > >Their loss or Ruby's? Unfortunately, probably both.
> > >
> > >I feel gems is one of the keys to getting past this. Gems can
> make my local
> > >(Windows) Ruby install feel like
> > >  - a single plug-in system
> > >  - pulling together 'requires'
> > >  - incorporating documentation from a single starting point
> > >  - including compatible versions and dependencies
> > >
> > >It would be great if gems was part of the standard Ruby
> distribution, if RPA
> > >could use gems as its underlying package manager (reducing
> confusion for
> > >newBs), and if RPA could then also take on the role of Release
> Manager for
> > >Ruby itself.
> > >
> > >Some misc thoughts:
> > >
> > >- Could gems ALSO cover binaries AND binary/library dependencies?
> > >
> > >- Could the gems RDOCs have links to some gems-aligned community
> > >documentation site, as someone else proposed here recently?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > RPA and RubyGems have different aspects in implementation, so it would
> > not be compatible/easy. Now that I have a RPA QA team for windows, we
> > should have binaries put together soon. Good support for software. :)
> >
> > David Ross
> > --
> > Hazzle free packages for Ruby?
> > RPA is available from http://www.rubyarchive.org/
> >
> >
>
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