From: Bill Kelly <billk@...>
Date: 2004-10-27T16:02:13+09:00
Subject: Re: Name Dropping


From: "James Britt" <jamesUNDERBARb@neurogami.com>
> Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I'm pretty sure he's using it.  He have mentioned Ruby a lot in his
> > Blog, called Bliki.
> 
> Written in Ruby (the story behind that is in the bliki somewhere).


Since both Martin Fowler and Ron Jeffries were mentioned in
this thread, it reminded me of an article on the XP list
from about a year ago, with a link to a Martin Fowler article
about Bliki and Ruby:


From: "Ron Jeffries" <ronjeffries@XProgramming.com>
To: <extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [XP] "Code must be commented"
>
> On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 10:37:26 AM, Keith Ray wrote:
> 
> >> If you need to use "code generation", don't use
> >> templates to do it, write a script in Python or some other readable
> >> language, and have it generate the code.
> >>
> >> (Now that last point gives me an evil idea: replace or extend the C
> >> preprocessor with in-line Python or Ruby scripts. Maybe not.)
> 
> > The evil idea is partly inspired by this:
> > <http://martinfowler.com/bliki/MovingAwayFromXslt.html>
> 
> Yes, I had a chat with Martin about this the other day. I'm kind of ticked
> off about it all, because he was the main reason I got into XSLT. ;->
> 
> I've always mixed Ruby and XSLT on my site, and then I've been doing a
> little with C# so thought I might go that way. Martin's experience is
> pushing me back toward Ruby ... I guess I'll have to upgrade to the latest!
> 
> Ron Jeffries
> www.XProgramming.com
> Do we learn more through cynicism, or through some other mental posture?



Regards,

Bill