[#5999] Re: Custom installation (1.6.1) — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "D" == David Suarez de Lis <excalibor@demasiado.com> writes:
[#6019] Time.local bug? — hal9000@...
Please tell me this is a bug, not a feature.
[#6028] Ref.: Re: Time.local bug? — David Suarez de Lis <excalibor@...>
Hi,
[#6042] Re: Time.local bug? — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "H" == Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
[#6074] Re: Cygwin conflicts — "Conrad Schneiker/Austin/Contr/IBM" <schneik@...>
Conrad Schneiker wrote:
[#6078] Programming Ruby ranking — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
Just a small note how the Ruby book sells:
[#6083] ANN: Single step Ruby installation for Windows — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#6092] Re: detect:ifNone: in Ruby — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
> I like it. You can also mess around with the built in classes to get
[#6097] Re: detect:ifNone: in Ruby — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
matz queries:
[#6102] What would a Ruby browser look like? — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#6106] Re: What would a Ruby browser look like? — "Conrad Schneiker/Austin/Contr/IBM" <schneik@...>
Stephen White writes:
People are already talking about using Tk to do this, or doing it as a WWW
[#6121] More Date/Time inconsistencies — David Suarez de Lis <excalibor@...>
Hi all,
[#6122] Ruby Book, Eng. tl, 6.1 -- aimai ? — Jon Babcock <jon@...>
[#6138] Thoughts on a Ruby browser — hal9000@...
I have to issue a disclaimer first, that I am not a code browser user,
[#6143] Re: What would a Ruby browser look like? — "Conrad Schneiker/Austin/Contr/IBM" <schneik@...>
Matz writes:
[#6149] Ruby hi(gh), and pointer to Jotto program — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hello --
David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:
[#6181] Minimal but practically useful Ruby browser? — "Conrad Schneiker/Austin/Contr/IBM" <schneik@...>
Hi,
[#6206] Re: marshal.dump again — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "H" == Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
[#6220] ruby-lang.org — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#6246] Re: quiz of the week — "Brian F. Feldman" <green@...>
"Brian F. Feldman" <green@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> In case anyone wants something else to try an example of how fun
[#6288] lchown()/etc. and Unix syscall completeness — "Brian F. Feldman" <green@...>
Ruby as it is now isn't very consistent with the system calls it provides.
[#6346] Re: Another Smalltalk control structure idea — "Conrad Schneiker/Austin/Contr/IBM" <schneik@...>
Matz writes:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:29:31 +0900, Conrad Schneiker/Austin/Contr/IBM wrote:
[#6363] Re: rescue clause affecting IO loop behavior — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "D" == David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:
Hello again --
matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:
[#6383] 1.6.x documentation. — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#6386] lots of Threads — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
If I have an array to be filled with computationally heavy stuff,
Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Dave Thomas wrote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:59:07 +0900, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote:
[#6412] clas << a & Pascal's with <record> do...end — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
I was thinking that when a lot of work must be done on an object
[#6417] Where is T_RANGE? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi,
[#6444] Ruby tokenizer for Ruby — Charles Hixson <charleshixson@...>
Does anyone know of a Ruby tokenizer for Ruby? In particular, I am bother
[#6461] Is there a FITS_IN_UINT(v)? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi,
Robert Feldt <feldt@ce.chalmers.se> writes:
[#6476] %x{...} and ` not working? — Niklas Backlund <d99-nba@...>
Hi,
[#6485] Re: GUI in ruby — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Hi,
[#6491] comp.lang.tcl -- The "Batteries Included" Distribution [LONG] — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Hi,
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:58:30 +0900, Conrad Schneiker wrote:
[#6503] redefining methods in a hierarchy. — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
If I have an object which I know to be a subclass of a subclass (at lease)
[#6518] Re: Question about the behavior of write att ributes in blocks — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
> Is it at all possible to write an iterator, which allows assignments
Thank you for explanation - the output of "x".inspect() is
"Christoph Rippel" <chr@subdimension.com> writes:
I lifted the following two lines from your (great) book - Page 285
[#6521] Time Trouble — Niklas Backlund <d99-nba@...>
Hi,
Niklas Backlund <d99-nba@nada.kth.se> writes:
[#6523] alias_method and > and < — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
The operators > and < don't seem to be in the list of things one cannot
[#6550] Note on docs for Array#reverse! — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
[#6571] Re: Ruby/C extension build question — Arjen Laarhoven <arjen@...>
Oops:
[#6579] ANN: Ruby/GDChart 0.0.1 available — Arjen Laarhoven <arjen@...>
Hi all,
[#6582] best way to interleaf arrays? — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hello --
David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> wrote:
David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:
David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Dave Thomas wrote:
[#6597] Question on sort! — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:
Hi,
> The latter can be avoided if one follows the no-bang-method-chain
[#6642] Hash with a key of nil ? — rpmohn@... (Ross Mohn)
While reading data in from a file and populating a hash, I accidentally
[#6646] RE: Array Intersect (&) question — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
Ross asked something about widely known and largely ignored language (on
aleksi.niemela@cinnober.com (Aleksi Niemel) wrote in
> >Use a hash. Here's code to do both and more. It assumes that
Hi,
----- Original Message -----
[#6656] printing/accessing arrays and hashes — raja@... (Raja S.)
I'm coming to Ruby with a Python & Common Lisp background.
matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:
[#6666] Suggestion for addition to Begin/End syntax — drew@... (Andrew D. McDowell)
Hi all.
Hi,
[ruby-talk:6616] Re: Question on sort!
Mathieu Bouchard <matju@cam.org> writes:
> > The latter can be avoided if one follows the no-bang-method-chain
> > rule. But I don't force you to agree with me (yet ;-).
>
> If a justification is required, i'd say that the no-bang-method-chain rule
> follows the if-it's-not-necessary-to-return-a-value-it-is-necessary-not-to
> rule.
>
> In particular, method chains rely on all the relevant methods to follow
> some specific meta-protocol about return values. The feature of being able
> to chain messages is thus implemented in hundreds and thousands of places,
> which most blatantly violates the DRY principle. The most exploded case of
> non-modularity.
It what way is it different from the various File and IO class methods
all guaranteeing to return a File or IO object? I don't see the DRY
violation.
Take #sort and #sort! Array#sort returns a new sorted array, leaving
the original untouched. Array#sort! sorts the original in place.
For consistency, I'd assume they'd both return a reference to the
sorted array, so that I could replace
ary.sort.reverse
with
ary.sort!.reverse
That seems reasonable.
Now of course I'd be wrong. Instead, the ! variant sometimes returns
nil: in particular it returns nil when sorting an array of size 0 or
1.
So does #reverse.
So that's two non-intuitive implementations that both do the same
thing. If there's a duplication of imposed behavior, I'd say it's in
the current system.
It comes down to convenience. How often do you care is an array was
modified by a sort? Ever? It would be more efficient to write
Enumerable#sorted? to check, than to sort and see if it
changed. Contrast that with the number of times it's convenient to
chain another method to a sort (I do it all the time). It's
unfortunate that a rarely used side-effect means that I can't sort in
place reliably under these circumstances.
gsub! and sub! give information that's fairly expensive to determine
any other way when they return nil. reverse! and sort! don't.
I'd vote for an end to the convention.
Regards
Dave