[#13775] Problems with racc rule definitions — Michael Neumann <neumann@...>

15 messages 2001/04/17
[#13795] Re: Problems with racc rule definitions — Minero Aoki <aamine@...> 2001/04/18

Hi,

[#13940] From Guido, with love... — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

52 messages 2001/04/20

[#13953] regexp — James Ponder <james@...>

Hi, I'm new to ruby and am coming from a perl background - therefore I

19 messages 2001/04/21

[#14033] Distributed Ruby and heterogeneous networks — harryo@... (Harry Ohlsen)

I wrote my first small distributed application yesterday and it worked

15 messages 2001/04/22

[#14040] RCR: getClassFromString method — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

It would be nice to have a function that returns a class type given a

20 messages 2001/04/22

[#14130] Re: Ruby mascot proposal — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Guy N. Hurst wrote:

21 messages 2001/04/24
[#14148] Re: Ruby mascot proposal — Stephen White <spwhite@...> 2001/04/24

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Conrad Schneiker wrote:

[#14188] Re: Ruby mascot proposal — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2001/04/25

Hi,

[#14193] Re: Ruby mascot proposal — "W. Kent Starr" <elderburn@...> 2001/04/25

On Tuesday 24 April 2001 23:02, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#14138] Re: python on the smalltalk VM — Conrad Schneiker <schneik@...>

FYI: Thought this might be of interest to the JRuby and Ruby/GUI folks.

27 messages 2001/04/24
[#14153] Re: python on the smalltalk VM — Andrew Kuchling <akuchlin@...> 2001/04/24

Conrad Schneiker <schneik@austin.ibm.com> writes:

[#14154] array#flatten! question — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/04/24

Hello.

[#14159] Can I insert into an array — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/04/24

Ok, this may be a dumb question, but, is it possible to insert into an

[#14162] Re: Can I insert into an array — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2001/04/24

Jim Freeze <jim@freeze.org> writes:

[#14289] RCR: Array#insert — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...> 2001/04/27

At Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:28:36 +0900,

[#14221] An or in an if. — Tim Pettman <tjp@...>

Hi there,

18 messages 2001/04/25

[#14267] Re: Ruby mascot proposal — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Danny van Bruggen,

16 messages 2001/04/26

[#14452] How to do it the Ruby-way 3 — Stefan Matthias Aust <sma@3plus4.de>

First a question: Why is

21 messages 2001/04/30

[ruby-talk:14267] Re: Ruby mascot proposal

From: "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Date: 2001-04-26 18:20:53 UTC
List: ruby-talk #14267
Danny van Bruggen,

# Wouldn't Matz himself make a nice mascot? Just give him an anime
# makeover, and take the head as a logo. It would make a nice change
# from all the animal/language comparisons...

That's definitely a very clever idea, but for reasons mentioned below, I 
now think _any_ Ruby mascot is a bad idea for the time being.
 
# If it isn't a good idea, I'll vote for the bird, because it looks
# funny.

On the other hand, others don't like it for precisely that reason.
FWIW, an overwhelming majority of people that I surveyed at the Austin
Ruby meeting didn't like it. (It only took one hand to tally votes
however. :-) And most didn't think the alternative proposal was
appropriate either.  (And we are not merely talking about not liking
in the sense of preferring something else, but disliking to the point
of refusing to wear it or use it on a web site.) This was a little
surprising to me, but I suspect such feelings are much more widespread
than one would gather from postings on this topic.

I think the most important conclusion is that there is no pressing
need for this rather divisive and controversial feature.  So I think
we should hold off on choosing a mascot (official or otherwise).
Given the various moderately reasonable critiques of all proposals to
date, it may be that we would be better off without a mascot for the
time being.

Perhaps in the meantime, a common motto something like the
following could be used instead:

    Ruby -- The future of human oriented programming.

It has a convenient ASCII representation, and there is still room for
considerable (_unofficial_) artistic creativity in terms of
typesetting and enclosing this motto in various simple, elegant,
geometric figures for tee shirts and such. (Think of it as a 
polymorphic logo that could be instantiated in unending variety.)

(OK, some people just _have_ to have a mascot. Well then, as one pair of 
famously pragmatic authors stated, Ruby is a transparent language. So 
let's have a perfectly transparent mascot. :-)

Conrad Schneiker
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