[#13775] Problems with racc rule definitions — Michael Neumann <neumann@...>

15 messages 2001/04/17
[#13795] Re: Problems with racc rule definitions — Minero Aoki <aamine@...> 2001/04/18

Hi,

[#13940] From Guido, with love... — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

52 messages 2001/04/20

[#13953] regexp — James Ponder <james@...>

Hi, I'm new to ruby and am coming from a perl background - therefore I

19 messages 2001/04/21

[#14033] Distributed Ruby and heterogeneous networks — harryo@... (Harry Ohlsen)

I wrote my first small distributed application yesterday and it worked

15 messages 2001/04/22

[#14040] RCR: getClassFromString method — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

It would be nice to have a function that returns a class type given a

20 messages 2001/04/22

[#14130] Re: Ruby mascot proposal — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Guy N. Hurst wrote:

21 messages 2001/04/24
[#14148] Re: Ruby mascot proposal — Stephen White <spwhite@...> 2001/04/24

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Conrad Schneiker wrote:

[#14188] Re: Ruby mascot proposal — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2001/04/25

Hi,

[#14193] Re: Ruby mascot proposal — "W. Kent Starr" <elderburn@...> 2001/04/25

On Tuesday 24 April 2001 23:02, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#14138] Re: python on the smalltalk VM — Conrad Schneiker <schneik@...>

FYI: Thought this might be of interest to the JRuby and Ruby/GUI folks.

27 messages 2001/04/24
[#14153] Re: python on the smalltalk VM — Andrew Kuchling <akuchlin@...> 2001/04/24

Conrad Schneiker <schneik@austin.ibm.com> writes:

[#14154] array#flatten! question — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/04/24

Hello.

[#14159] Can I insert into an array — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/04/24

Ok, this may be a dumb question, but, is it possible to insert into an

[#14162] Re: Can I insert into an array — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2001/04/24

Jim Freeze <jim@freeze.org> writes:

[#14289] RCR: Array#insert — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...> 2001/04/27

At Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:28:36 +0900,

[#14221] An or in an if. — Tim Pettman <tjp@...>

Hi there,

18 messages 2001/04/25

[#14267] Re: Ruby mascot proposal — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Danny van Bruggen,

16 messages 2001/04/26

[#14452] How to do it the Ruby-way 3 — Stefan Matthias Aust <sma@3plus4.de>

First a question: Why is

21 messages 2001/04/30

[ruby-talk:13470] Re: ActiveState Ruby?

From: "Furio Filoseta" <furifilo901@...>
Date: 2001-04-04 03:54:45 UTC
List: ruby-talk #13470
You are writing this as an April寄 Fool thing, arenエt you ?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin J. Tilly" <ben_tilly@operamail.com>
To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 12:25 PM
Subject: [ruby-talk:13417] RE: ActiveState Ruby?


> >===== Original Message From "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@hotmail.com> =====
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I would really like to see an ActiveState Ruby and it could happen with
your
> >help.  Why?  Free advertising.  I think one of the reasons for Python's
> >growing popularity is the fact that ActiveState has a Python distribution
> >(the other reason being O'Reilly).  If ActiveState were to create a Ruby
> >distribution, it would help "get the word out" regarding Ruby *and*
create
> >an easy, *supported*, installation package.  Ruby would become more
popular,
> >gain more adherents, more contributions would be made to the RAA,
O'Reilly
> >publishers (and others) would be more likely to publish books on Ruby,
etc,
> >etc.
>
> I wouldn't.
>
> And frankly I am saddened that people would.
>
> >If you agree, please send an email to:  Support@ActiveState.com, and
express
> >to them how you would like to see an ActiveState Ruby distribution.
> >
> >If not, well then, ignore this message and move on!
>
> How about I instead explain why I don't want this?
>
> There is persistent speculation in the Perl world that
> ActiveState has done a lot to pollute the development process.
> Whether or not that is true (I have heard stuff which is
> suggestive both ways) it is unquestionable that their
> desire is to make themselves the definitive source of all
> things Perl/Python, and to provide that in binary format.
>
> While I support having easy binary distributions available, I
> dislike intiatives to try to make people depend on binary
> distributions.  The entire point of open source (and many of
> the benefits) are lost when people are not encouraged to have
> and use the source.
>
> ActiveState in particular is a company that I distrust.  I am
> sure that as Ruby grows, they will show up.  But it won't be
> something that I particularly look forward to.  And if they
> start their usual games of compiling patched sources with
> specific compilers and not letting people know what the
> patches are, well I understand why they do that but I don't
> like it.  Not One Bit.
>
> Nor do I trust the size of the investment that Microsoft has
> made in them.  Call me paranoid, but I have to wonder to what
> extent Microsoft has decided on ActiveState as a way to
> address the ways in which open source is challenging their
> business model...
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>

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