From: snowzone5@... (tony summerfelt)
Date: 2001-04-22T07:10:05+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:14009] Re: From Guido, with love... [+ Jython & JRuby]

Conrad Schneiker wrote  on 21 Apr 2001

>Well, IMNSHO, it also seems like a very *minor* sort of "deliberate

i suppose it was minor...except it was posted on slashdot...anybody using 
python and online will probably have read it. if gvr says ruby is comparable 
to parrot (however jovial it came out :/ it was a good signal for python 
users to not bother with ruby at all...

> Nothing worth getting bent out of shape about.

by itself no, added on to the rest of what is said in the python community 
and it's annoying...

>> third, EVERYBODY in the python community as a chip on their shoulder
>> about every other language. 

well, i actually meant 'everybody' as in i have a good statistical example 
from three different sources :)

>Umm, it won't take too many more responses like that for people to start
>saying the same thing about the Ruby community. :-) 

i found that you can't ask the simplest questions in the perl or python 
community but you CAN in the ruby or tcl/tk community.

and i've asked some really dumb ones in both :) but came out on the other 
end unscathed...

>[But I hasten to add that I think Python is actually a pretty cool

i added it to my language toolbox, as i did with ruby...i'm a firm believer 
in 'best tool for the job'

>> Jython is mostly useful for people who have already chosen the Java
>> platform 

i had a client who 'btw'd me on a java program. i don't do java but i was 
able to give him the jython bytecode, and the python source... he was happy 
enough with that. jruby would be a nice addition...

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