From: Johann Hibschman <johannh@...>
Date: 2001-04-22T07:40:03+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:14012] Re: From Guido, with love...

In article <Xns908AB7C8CA099snowzone@24.9.0.131>, tony summerfelt
<snowzone5@hotmail.com> wrote:

> it's not just ruby they hate, they're equal opportunity language haters :/

I am bit surpised at this.  I've been using Python for years now, and
I've never found the group to disparage another programming language.
There are quite a few Scheme and Lisp fans among the python users,
for example, and they keep suggesting features from these languages
which might be a good addition to python.  For example, Icon-like
iterators are likely to appear in Python 2.2.  Ping has a PEP in,
which looks like it will go through.

So, if anything, I see more of an attitude of "adopt and learn" than
anything.  Ruby gets a negative first reaction from Python folk, though,
just because it uses "$" and "@" as variable prefices.

Were you wronged by them in the past?  The python newsgroup has been,
in my experience, one of the more intelligent and kind newsgroups on
Usenet, so that suprises me.

> >Be nice to Python people.  They have their reasons to dislike Ruby.
> 
> well, i haven't directly flamed any python user yet...actually their reasons 
> for disliking ruby are probably the same as their reasons for disliking the 
> rest of the languages: it's not python :/

Please, that's a very cheap shot.  I, at least, am a current Python
user who is experimenting with Ruby.  I'd like to think that I'm not
unique, and rhetoric like this will only hurt the adoption of Ruby.

Cheers,

--Johann