From: "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
Date: 2000-09-12T08:54:01+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:4876] Windows installation issues, etc.

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I've followed this thread with interest. Here are some comments:

1. I do think that cygwin1.dll should be packaged with the Ruby
installation. It was a significant pain for me to find it on the web.
In the end, I had to use the site's search engine, because I=20
couldn't find it by navigating.

2. However, I think there are licensing issues -- if I remember=20
right, the source has to be included along with the DLL. A nuisance
from our perspective, and increasing the code bloat.

3. It seems that some people want multiple kinds of installation, and=20
some want only one. Another possibility is a compromise -- let the=20
archive contain "everything" (with "everything" to be defined later),
but let the stuff be selectable at installation time in true Windows
fashion. The disadvantage is the size of the archive; the advantage=20
is that there is a single install, not multiple ones, and there is the
flexibility of not installing things you don't want.

4. Another idea: At the risk of complicating things too much, have a
"bootstrappable" install that can do an update over the net. Did someone
mention this already?

5. Finally, I'm not bashing Windows -- not today, anyway -- but let's =
provide=20
a similar level of functionality for Linux and others.

Hal Fulton




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<DIV>I've followed this thread with interest. Here are some =
comments:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>1. I do think that cygwin1.dll should be packaged with the =
Ruby</DIV>
<DIV>installation. It was a significant pain for me to find it on the =
web.</DIV>
<DIV>In the end, I had to use the site's search engine, because I </DIV>
<DIV>couldn't find it by navigating.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>2. However, I think there are licensing issues -- if I remember =
</DIV>
<DIV>right, the source has to be included along with the DLL. A =
nuisance</DIV>
<DIV>from our perspective, and increasing the code bloat.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>3. It seems that some people want multiple kinds of installation, =
and=20
</DIV>
<DIV>some want only one. Another possibility is a compromise -- let the =
</DIV>
<DIV>archive contain "everything" (with "everything" to be defined =
later),</DIV>
<DIV>but let the stuff be selectable at installation time in true =
Windows</DIV>
<DIV>fashion. The disadvantage is the size of the archive; the advantage =
</DIV>
<DIV>is that there is a single install, not multiple ones, and there is=20
the</DIV>
<DIV>flexibility of not installing things you don't want.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>4. Another idea: At the risk of complicating things too much, have =
a</DIV>
<DIV>"bootstrappable" install that can do an update over the net. Did=20
someone</DIV>
<DIV>mention this already?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>5. Finally, I'm not bashing Windows&nbsp;-- not today, anyway -- =
but let's=20
provide </DIV>
<DIV>a similar level of functionality for Linux and others.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Hal Fulton</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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