[#4766] Wiki — "Glen Stampoultzis" <trinexus@...>

21 messages 2000/09/04
[#4768] RE: Wiki — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2000/09/04

Hi, Glen,

[#4783] Re: Wiki — Masatoshi SEKI <m_seki@...> 2000/09/04

[#4785] Re: Wiki — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2000/09/05

Howdy,

[#4883] Re-binding a block — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

16 messages 2000/09/12

[#4930] Perl 6 rumblings -- RFC 225 (v1) Data: Superpositions — Conrad Schneiker <schneik@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2000/09/15

[#4936] Ruby Book Eng. translation editor's questions — Jon Babcock <jon@...>

20 messages 2000/09/16

[#5045] Proposal: Add constants to Math — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

15 messages 2000/09/21

[#5077] Crazy idea? infix method calls — hal9000@...

This is a generalization of the "in" operator idea which I

17 messages 2000/09/22

[#5157] Compile Problem with 1.6.1 — Scott Billings <aerogems@...>

When I try to compile Ruby 1.6.1, I get the following error:

15 messages 2000/09/27

[ruby-talk:4711] Re: new, initialize, etc.

From: matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
Date: 2000-09-01 00:04:51 UTC
List: ruby-talk #4711
Hi,

In message "[ruby-talk:4705] new, initialize, etc."
    on 00/09/01, hal9000@hypermetrics.com <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> writes:

|As I see it, new is typically a class method which invokes the
|initialize method.
|
|First of all, why? I guess I can understand new being a class method,
|but why is initialize named differently? Why not just define new for
|the class and put the initializing code in there?

As Dave explained in [ruby-dev:4707], the instance creation is done in
two steps.  Why?  Because the `new' class method does not have special
privilege to access internal of the object.  It's naturally done by
the instance method (initialize) to initialize the object, 

|Second, I've read a little about finalizing objects; I'm not sure why
|or when to do it. And why do it that way, rather than just provide a
|method to be called by the GC when the object dies?

A finalizer like Java (a method to be called by GC) may "resurrect"
the unreferenced object.  It may result performance drawback.

|Finally, how are BEGIN and END supposed to be used? I've read what they
|do -- it seems to me they would be useful for modules -- but I don't
|actually grasp them. Are they completely unrelated to the concept of
|creating and destroying objects?

It's handy with -n/-o option for the interpreter.

							matz.

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