[#140667] Thinking of creating a small mini-language-interpreter using Ruby — Glenn Smith <glenn.ruby@...>

Always something I've wanted to write - an interpreter of my own. Now

12 messages 2005/05/01

[#140714] Ruby, Rails and now og — "Andrew Ballantine" <andrew.ballantine@...>

Hi,

16 messages 2005/05/02

[#140808] Re: "Bounty" approach for small pieces of code? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Molitor, Stephen L wrote:

12 messages 2005/05/03
[#140810] Re: "Bounty" approach for small pieces of code? — Richard Lyman <lymans@...> 2005/05/03

On 5/2/05, Hal Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> wrote:

[#140856] Bug Tracker — Andy Stone <xsltguru@...>

Hello all,

28 messages 2005/05/03

[#140910] Typo-checking instead of static typing — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>

Once again, static typing reared its head on the mailing list, and once

31 messages 2005/05/03

[#140928] Re: [ANN] traits-0.0.0 — "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Berger@...>

> -----Original Message-----

16 messages 2005/05/03

[#141015] writing to a file with gsub! — Ralf Mler <r_mueller@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2005/05/04

[#141023] Object#inside_metaclass? — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

56 messages 2005/05/04
[#141045] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/04

On Wed, 4 May 2005, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#141050] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/05/04

David A. Black wrote:

[#141522] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/07

Hi,

[#141533] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/05/07

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#141548] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/07

In message "Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass?"

[#141550] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/05/07

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#141575] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/07

[#141057] Fixnum's binary representation — camsight@...

Hi, people!

13 messages 2005/05/04

[#141143] Re: object reference handle (like perl's reference to scalar) — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>

> > In ruby, is there a way to get a handle of an object

17 messages 2005/05/04

[#141165] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — "Rob ." <rob.02004@...>

Version 0.6 of jEdit's Ruby Editor Plugin has been released and is

21 messages 2005/05/05
[#141176] Re: [ANN] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — Alexandru Popescu <the_mindstorm@...> 2005/05/05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[#141186] Re: [ANN] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — "Rob ." <rob.02004@...> 2005/05/05

Alexandru Popescu wrote:> Rob . said:> > Version 0.6 of jEdit's Ruby Editor Plugin has been released and is> > available for download!> >> > http://www.jedit.org/ruby/> > Great job Rob!Mulmesc!

[#141205] Re: [ANN] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — Tom Copeland <tom@...> 2005/05/05

On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 18:38 +0900, Rob . wrote:

[#141219] Re: [ANN] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — Alexandru Popescu <the_mindstorm@...> 2005/05/05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[#141225] Re: [ANN] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — "Rob ." <rob.02004@...> 2005/05/05

Alex, I don't get an exception in this case, but I see what you mean.

[#141196] Whats so different about a Hash? — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

Consider:

15 messages 2005/05/05
[#141197] Re: Whats so different about a Hash? — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/05/05

On 05/05/05, Andrew Walrond <andrew@walrond.org> wrote:

[#141199] Re: Whats so different about a Hash? — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...> 2005/05/05

Hi Brian,

[#141299] another Tk question — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

In Tk, what's the best way to show a large table of data that gets

15 messages 2005/05/05
[#141326] Re: another Tk question — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2005/05/06

From: Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@gmail.com>

[#141307] String Manipulation Nuby Question — Chris Roos <chris@...>

I have a Person with title, forename and surname (all of which are

13 messages 2005/05/05

[#141311] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6.1 - method completion release II — "Rob ." <rob.02004@...>

Version 0.6.1 of jEdit's Ruby Editor Plugin has been released and is

12 messages 2005/05/05

[#141334] RCR 303: nil should accept missing methods and return nil — John Carter <john.carter@...>

A very simple and generic way of improving the reliability of Ruby

66 messages 2005/05/06
[#141340] Prove me Wrong! Re: RCR 303: nil should accept missing methods — John Carter <john.carter@...> 2005/05/06

On Fri, 6 May 2005, Alexey Verkhovsky wrote:

[#141338] Re: RCR 303: nil should accept missing methods and return nil — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/05/06

On 5/6/05, John Carter <john.carter@tait.co.nz> wrote:

[#141339] Re: RCR 303: nil should accept missing methods and return nil — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/05/06

Luke Graham wrote:

[#141345] Re: RCR 303: nil should accept missing methods and return nil — John Carter <john.carter@...> 2005/05/06

On Fri, 6 May 2005, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#141349] What sound does no duck make? — John Carter <john.carter@...>

Imagine a flock of ducks in the sky. Listen.

13 messages 2005/05/06

[#141368] Re: compiler error: argument of type "VALUE *" is incompatible with parameter of type "VALUE" — me2faster@...

On May 5, 2005, at 2:44 PM, me2faster@excite.com wrote:

10 messages 2005/05/06

[#141529] [NITRO] - Mr. George Moschovitis applies Censorship on Public Project Forum — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

To understand further the _real_ difference between Nitro/Og and

25 messages 2005/05/07

[#141530] [NITRO] - Mr. Moschovitis Revolutionary Redefinition of an Open Source Project — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

George Moschovitis wrote

15 messages 2005/05/07

[#141576] HighLine 0.4.0 — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

HighLine 0.4.0 Released

29 messages 2005/05/07
[#141616] Re: HighLine 0.4.0 — "Vincent Foley" <vfoley@...> 2005/05/07

Hello James,

[#141618] Re: HighLine 0.4.0 — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/05/07

On May 7, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Vincent Foley wrote:

[#141598] Vacation - email me when Ilias is gone or people FINALLY stop responding to him — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

The signal:noise ratio on this list is terrible. I'm taking a

12 messages 2005/05/07
[#141647] Re: Vacation - email me when I. is gone or people FINALLY stop responding to him — Bertram Scharpf <lists@...> 2005/05/08

Hi,

[#141615] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

Another suggestion for the "Ruby Singleton Classes" or "Exclusive Classes":

72 messages 2005/05/07
[#141681] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/08

In message "Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes"

[#141709] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Carlos <angus@...> 2005/05/08

[Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>, 2005-05-08 17.13 CEST]

[#141710] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/05/08

Carlos wrote:

[#141715] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/08

Hi,

[#141719] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/08

Hi --

[#141748] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/08

Hi,

[#141810] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/09

Hi,

[#141655] No Thing Here vs Uninitialized and RCR 303 — Cyent <cyent@...>

I'm observing a general trend in the responses to RCR 303.

26 messages 2005/05/08
[#141745] Re: No Thing Here vs Uninitialized and RCR 303 — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/05/08

Cyent a 馗rit :

[#141746] Re: No Thing Here vs Uninitialized and RCR 303 — Bill Atkins <batkins57@...> 2005/05/08

This isn't about changing programming habits. Having nil return nil

[#141707] Singleton class terminology — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Just expressing my opinion here.

16 messages 2005/05/08

[#141776] Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — Balwinder Singh Dheeman <bsd.SANSPAM@...>

Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days)

15 messages 2005/05/09

[#141875] How to extract texts from html source? — "Sam Kong" <sam.s.kong@...>

Hi, all!

14 messages 2005/05/09

[#141900] Still umlauts — Bertram Scharpf <lists@...>

Hi,

8 messages 2005/05/09
[#142448] Re: Still umlauts — "Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT" <jupp@...> 2005/05/12

Hi!

[#142507] Re: Still umlauts — Bertram Scharpf <lists@...> 2005/05/13

Hi,

[#142514] Re: Still umlauts — Jonas Hartmann <Mail@...> 2005/05/13

Bertram Scharpf wrote:

[#142527] Re: Still umlauts — =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Brian_Schr=F6der?= <ruby.brian@...> 2005/05/13

On 13/05/05, Jonas Hartmann <Mail@jonas-hartmann.com> wrote:> Bertram Scharpf wrote:> > Hi,> >> > Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2005, 04:34:00 +0900 schrieb Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT:> >> >>At Tue, 10 May 2005 06:58:30 +0900, Bertram Scharpf wrote:> >>> >>>does this no longer work?> >>> >>You forgot to define the meaning of 'no longer works':> >>> >> - What precisely do you mean by 'it works'?> >> >> > Sorry, that was not actually elaborate. Now I think it> > never worked at all.> >> >> >>>--------------------> >>>#!/usr/bin/env ruby> >>># -*- coding: UTF-8 -*-> >>>> >>>puts $KCODE> >>>puts "蔕ヨワ゜"> >>>--------------------> >>>> >>>I tried it with Ruby 1.8.2 and 1.9, Debian Linux.> >>>What do I miss?> >> >> > In the meantime I received an answer in ruby-core and it> > seems Matz just _planned_ to implement it but didn't have> > the time yet.> >> > The problem arises when my program is run on SuSE Linux> > where the default encoding is UTF-8.> >> > A better way to test in which encoding you reside is:> >> > "テ =~ /./> > puts $&.length> >> > This gives 1 in `None' and 2 in `UTF-8'.> >> >> >>When in doubt *set* $KCODE explicitly.> >> >> > This has no influence on how the source code is read. The> > string " produces an error when `ruby -Ku' is called.> >> > Of course I should have written "\xc3\xa4" and "\xc3".> > Is this the only way to handle strings UTF-8 in ruby?> > >> > Sorry again for the noise.> >> > Bertram> >> >> > regards> jonas> >

[#141958] Redesign 2005, Round Two — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

I'm happy to say that our little redesign team has come to accord on a

80 messages 2005/05/10
[#142020] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005, Round Two — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/05/10

why the lucky stiff ha scritto:

[#142033] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005, Round Two — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/05/10

why the lucky stiff wrote:

[#142041] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005, Round Two — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2005/05/10

On 5/10/05, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#142057] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005, Round Two — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/05/10

Mark Hubbart, May 11:

[#142196] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — "Karl von Laudermann" <doodpants@...> 2005/05/11

[#142219] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/11

Hi --

[#142221] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/05/11

David A. Black wrote:

[#142237] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — "Ryan Leavengood" <mrcode@...> 2005/05/11

James Britt wrote:

[#142252] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/11

Hi --

[#142267] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/05/11

David A. Black wrote:

[#142274] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — "John W. Long" <ng@...> 2005/05/11

James Britt wrote:

[#142302] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/12

[#142054] String Hashing Algorithms — "Phrogz" <gavin@...>

Summary

16 messages 2005/05/10

[#142129] options parsing: required and conflict — Kirill Shutemov <k.shutemov@...>

Can I define options dependencies using OptionParser?

13 messages 2005/05/11
[#142130] Re: options parsing: required and conflict — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2005/05/11

Kirill Shutemov wrote:

[#142133] ruby vs. java? — "Franz Hartmann" <porschefranz@...>

Hello all,

61 messages 2005/05/11
[#142136] Re: ruby vs. java? — Michael Ulm <michael.ulm@...> 2005/05/11

Franz Hartmann wrote:

[#142141] Re: ruby vs. java? — "Franz Hartmann" <porschefranz@...> 2005/05/11

Hello Michael and all of you,

[#142149] Re: ruby vs. java? — Logan Capaldo <logancapaldo@...> 2005/05/11

On 5/11/05, Franz Hartmann <porschefranz@hotmail.com> wrote:

[#142155] Re: ruby vs. java? — "Franz Hartmann" <porschefranz@...> 2005/05/11

Hello Logan,

[#142166] Re: ruby vs. java? — Ralf Mler <r_mueller@...> 2005/05/11

[#142171] Re: ruby vs. java? — "Franz Hartmann" <porschefranz@...> 2005/05/11

Ralf,

[#142176] Re: ruby vs. java? — Ralf Mler <r_mueller@...> 2005/05/11

> (physician = Arzt, physicist = Physiker) :-)))

[#142224] alternatives to ? : contruct — "John-Mason P. Shackelford" <jpshack@...>

As an alternative to:

21 messages 2005/05/11

[#142260] Re: object loops and what they return — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>

That sure looks ugly. I don't see any advantage of this over:

33 messages 2005/05/11
[#142359] Re: {} vs begin/end [was Re: object loops and what they return] — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2005/05/12

Brian Schrer wrote:

[#142379] Re: {} vs begin/end [was Re: object loops and what they return] — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2005/05/12

[#142268] Request for advice on applying a license — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...>

Hi!

14 messages 2005/05/11
[#142276] Re: [OT] Request for advice on applying a license — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/05/11

On Wednesday 11 May 2005 18:59, Nikolai Weibull wrote:

[#142370] Re: [OT] Request for advice on applying a license — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/05/12

Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> writes:

[#142342] Go through directories recursively — Jens Riedel <JensRie@...>

Hello,

17 messages 2005/05/12

[#142378] Amazing Mazes (#31) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

Wow, these solutions are great fun to play with. I think next week's quiz needs

16 messages 2005/05/12

[#142404] We need a comprehensive test suite — Daniel Berger <djberge@...>

All,

12 messages 2005/05/12

[#142462] Get back data from a child (with exec) — Lawrence Oluyede <raims@...>

13 messages 2005/05/12

[#142620] ruby in WinXP as an automation tool — "kevin.gc@..." <kevin.gc@...>

Can anyone tell me if it can be done?

19 messages 2005/05/14

[#142671] infinite number of singleton_classes — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello!

37 messages 2005/05/15
[#142710] Re: infinite number of singleton_classes — Ara.T.Howard@... 2005/05/15

On Sun, 15 May 2005, Lionel Thiry wrote:

[#142745] Re: infinite number of singleton_classes — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/05/15

Ara.T.Howard@noaa.gov a 馗rit :

[#142746] Re: infinite number of singleton_classes — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/05/15

Lionel Thiry wrote:

[#142711] Re: infinite number of singleton_classes — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/15

Hi --

[#142806] IRB, Mac OS X, command-line require via "-r" and Bus Errors — "James Adam" <james.adam@...>

Hey All,

22 messages 2005/05/16

[#142808] Ruby Weekly News 2nd - 15th May 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)

http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20050515.html

15 messages 2005/05/16
[#143444] Array.=== Bug, Rails Bug, or brain failure? — Markus <markus@...> 2005/05/23

I've got some rails code that is failing in a very strange way. It is

[#143447] Re: Array.=== Bug, Rails Bug, or brain failure? — Jamis Buck <jamis@37signals.com> 2005/05/23

Markus,

[#143449] Re: Array.=== Bug, Rails Bug, or brain failure? — Markus <markus@...> 2005/05/23

[#142894] Google API, Soap and windows XP — ruby talk <rubytalk@...>

Hello,I am playing with the google api and soap. I have the newest versionof soap and i think ruby 1.8. I created my code on a laptop withmandrake 10.2 with the same version of ruby and soap. On my laptop itworks fine. On my windows computer it give me an error."F:\Documents and Settings\iv\Desktop\googlerip>ruby googled.rbmonkey filetype:pdfLoading compatibility library...c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/datatypes.rb:172:in `_set': {http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema}string: cannot accept '<b>...</b> Tibetan year of the <b>monkey</b>. These instructions are traditionally given <b>...</b><br> thus will give the rare ΓÇÖ<b>Monkey</b>-Year-TeachingsΓÇÖ after the inauguration in <b>...</b>'. (XSD::ValueSpaceError) from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/datatypes.rb:114:in `set' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/encodingstyle/soapHandler.rb:453:in `decode_textbuf' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/encodingstyle/soapHandler.rb:214:in `decode_tag_end' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/parser.rb:185:in `decode_tag_end' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/parser.rb:146:in `end_element' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/xmlparser/parser.rb:75:in `end_element' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/xmlparser/xmlparser.rb:36:in `do_parse' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/xmlparser/xmlparser.rb:31:in `parse' ... 7 levels... from (eval):2:in `doGoogleSearch' from googled.rb:16 from googled.rb:15:in `each' from googled.rb:15"

2 messages 2005/05/17

[#142901] Help regarding def wrapper — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...>

I窶囘 like to have a def that I can scope in one go, i.e.,

17 messages 2005/05/17

[#143041] Compiling MySQL-Ruby on Tiger — "pat allan" <pat.allan@...>

Hi all

21 messages 2005/05/18

[#143087] (newbie Q) opposite of inspect for strings — "Basile Starynkevitch [news]" <basile-news@...>

14 messages 2005/05/18

[#143225] Re: Multiple return and parallel assignement — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>

25 messages 2005/05/20

[#143229] Web services and Ruby — Luke Kanies <luke@...>

Hi all,

17 messages 2005/05/20

[#143252] HighLine 0.6.0 -- Now with menus! — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

HighLine 0.6.0 Released

18 messages 2005/05/20

[#143305] join not in Enumerable — Logan Capaldo <logancapaldo@...>

Just a few minutes ago I was playing with irb as I am wont to do, and

14 messages 2005/05/21

[#143328] Vim's Ruby indenting — "Vincent Foley" <vfoley@...>

Hi to all the vim users,

17 messages 2005/05/22

[#143337] Uniform vector class, inheriting from Array: How to make sure that methods return a Vector and not an Array? — Thomas <sanobast-2005a@...>

Hi folks,

8 messages 2005/05/22
[#143342] Re: Uniform vector class, inheriting from Array: How to make sure that methods return a Vector and not an Array? — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/05/22

On 22/05/05, Thomas <sanobast-2005a@yahoo.de> wrote:

[#143366] Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — Balwinder Singh Dheeman <bsd.SANSPAM@...>

Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days)

11 messages 2005/05/23

[#143375] sciTe editor IRB window getting double characters — "soxinbox" <faker@...>

Has any one had a problem with the latest release of Ruby and the included

10 messages 2005/05/23

[#143515] if __FILE_ == $0 executed twice — Han Holl <han.holl@...>

Hello,

21 messages 2005/05/24

[#143550] new article — pat eyler <pat.eyler@...>

Sorry for posting about my own article, but I'm interested in feedback,

24 messages 2005/05/24

[#143655] A different perspective on Ruby. — ES <ruby-ml@...>

47 messages 2005/05/26
[#143681] Re: A different perspective on Ruby. — "gsinclair@..." <gsinclair@...> 2005/05/26

ES wrote:

[#143683] Re: A different perspective on Ruby. — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/05/26

On 26/05/05, gsinclair@gmail.com <gsinclair@gmail.com> wrote:

[#143705] Intellisense and the psychology of typing — andrew.queisser@...

Yesterday I typed in some C++ code that called a function with two

50 messages 2005/05/26
[#143710] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Thomas Adam <thomas@...> 2005/05/26

On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 01:35:19AM +0900, andrew.queisser@hp.com wrote:

[#143716] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/05/26

Hello Thomas,

[#144032] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Richard Cole <rcole@...> 2005/05/30

Lothar Scholz wrote:

[#144040] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/05/30

On 5/30/05, Richard Cole <rcole@itee.uq.edu.au> wrote:

[#144080] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/05/31

Hello Austin,

[#144088] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/05/31

On 5/31/05, Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@scriptolutions.com> wrote:

[#144109] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2005/05/31

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#144114] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/05/31

On 5/31/05, Caleb Clausen <vikkous@gmail.com> wrote:

[#144124] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...> 2005/05/31

--- Austin Ziegler <halostatue@gmail.com> wrote:

[#143799] Plz comment — Dr Balwinder S Dheeman <bsd.SANSPAM@...>

Dear Rubiest!

22 messages 2005/05/27

[#143812] Ruby on Rails interest in comp.lang.python — Stephen Kellett <snail@...>

A heads up to the Rails folks.

14 messages 2005/05/27

[#143825] How to build an index of phrases in a phrase/sentence? — Dan Fitzpatrick <dan@...>

I am trying to build an indexing structure on some phrases. Most phrases

11 messages 2005/05/27

[#143884] preventing Object#send from dispatching to a global method? — Francis Hwang <sera@...>

Is there a way to prevent Object#send from dispatching to a global

17 messages 2005/05/28
[#143908] Re: preventing Object#send from dispatching to a global method? — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/05/29

[#143975] Ruby-VTK-0.2.0 was released — Seiya Nishizawa <seiya@...>

Hi everyone,

11 messages 2005/05/30

[#143976] Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — Balwinder Singh Dheeman <bsd.SANSPAM@...>

Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days)

26 messages 2005/05/30
[#144084] Re: Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/31

On Mon, 30 May 2005, Balwinder Singh Dheeman wrote:

[#144107] Re: Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — pat eyler <pat.eyler@...> 2005/05/31

On 5/31/05, David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:

[#144113] Re: Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/05/31

pat eyler wrote:

[#144144] Re: Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — Dr Balwinder S Dheeman <bsd.SANSPAM@...> 2005/05/31

On 05/31/2005 11:44 PM, James Britt wrote:

[#144145] Re: Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/05/31

On May 31, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:

[#144004] creating variable with eval — "Geert Fannes" <Geert.Fannes@...>

Hello, what is the scope of a variable created inside an eval()

14 messages 2005/05/30

[#144096] parseargs-0.0.0 — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

23 messages 2005/05/31
[#144170] binding, ObjectSpace._id2ref [WAS] Re: [ANN] parseargs-0.0.0 — "Zev Blut" <rubyzbibd@...> 2005/06/01

Hello,

[#144254] Re: binding, ObjectSpace._id2ref [WAS] Re: [ANN] parseargs-0.0.0 — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/06/01

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Zev Blut wrote:

[#144306] Re: binding, ObjectSpace._id2ref [WAS] Re: [ANN] parseargs-0.0.0 — "Zev Blut" <rubyzbibd@...> 2005/06/02

Hello,

From: hal9000@...
Date: 2005-05-15 17:38:25 UTC
List: ruby-talk #142720
RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2005-4-14)

This FAQ contains information for those who want to:

  1) learn more about Ruby, and want to 
  2) post to comp.lang.ruby or to the ruby-lang mail list, or want to
  3) provide anonymous feedback to help us improve Ruby.

This FAQ will be posted monthly. If you are reading this material
via the mailing list or the newsgroup, note that you can find it on 
the web at: http://rubyhacker.com/clrFAQ.html

A German version of this FAQ is maintained by Josef "Jupp" Schugt. It can be 
found at: http://oss.erdfunkstelle.de/ruby/

Note that this is *not* the Ruby language FAQ! This can be found at:
http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum/

TABLE OF CONTENTS

    1 About Ruby
    1.1 What is Ruby?
    1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
    2 About comp.lang.ruby.
    2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby.
    2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
    2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
    2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
    2.5 What are these 6-digit message numbers?
    2.6 What is "POLS"?
    3 Anything else?

1 About Ruby

1.1 What is Ruby?

    Ruby is a very high level, fully OO programming language. Indeed,
    Ruby is one of the relatively few pure OO languages. Yet despite
    its conceptual simplicity, Ruby is still a powerful and practical
    "industrial strength" development language.  

    Ruby selectively integrates many good ideas taken from Perl,
    Python, Smalltalk, Eiffel, ADA, CLU, and LISP. Ruby combines 
    these ideas in a natural, well-coordinated system that embodies 
    the principles of least effort and least surprise to a 
    substantially greater extent than most comparable languages -- 
    i.e., you get more bang for your buck, and what you write is more
    likely to give you what you expected to get.  Ruby is thus a 
    relatively easy to learn, easy to read, and easy to maintain 
    language; yet it is very powerful and sophisticated.  

    In addition to common OO features, Ruby also has threads,
    singleton methods, mixins, fully integrated closures and
    iterators, plus proper meta-classes.   Ruby has a true
    mark-and-sweep garbage collector, which makes code more reliable
    and simplifies writing extensions.  In summary, Ruby provides a
    very powerful and very easy to deploy "standing on the shoulders
    of giants" OO scaffolding/framework so that you can more quickly
    and easily build what you want to build, to do what you want to
    do.  
    
    You will find many former (and current) Perl, Python, Java, and
    C++ users on comp.lang.ruby that can help you get up to speed in
    Ruby.

    Finally, Ruby is an "open source" development programming
    language.  

1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?

    If you're into IRC, check out #ruby-lang on FreeNode. There are
    also other channels -- see http://rubygarden.org/ruby?RubyOnIRC.

    There are also many web and print resources listed below:


    Ruby's home web site:
    
        http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/  (Ruby home page)

            Follow the links to documentation, downloads, the Ruby
            Application Archive, the Ruby mail list archives, and 
	    lots of other interesting information.  

    RubyForge (A major repository with hundreds of Ruby projects)

        http://rubyforge.org

    Ruby-Doc.org (A large source of Ruby documentation)
    
    RubyCentral.COM (Ruby's other major on-line docs and links site):
    
        http://www.rubycentral.com/  

    RubyCentral.ORG (Home of RubyCentral, Inc.)
    
        http://www.rubycentral.org/  

    RubyGarden (An important wiki site, very content-rich)

        http://rubygarden.org/

    Ruby FAQ: 
    
        http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum/

    Ruby User's Guide (introductory tutorial):

        http://www.rubyist.net/~slagell/ruby/index.html

    _Why's Poignant Guide to Ruby (A Ruby tutorial on acid, featuring 
        cartoon foxes)

        http://poignantguide.net/ruby/

    Note: The list of books below is now frozen. I don't
    want to maintain this forever. We all hope the number
    of Ruby books increases, of course.

    English language Ruby books (recent publication order):

        Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
        2nd edition. See below.

        Making Use of Ruby
	by Suresh Mahadevan
	Wiley; ISBN 0-471-21972-X (2002)

        Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days
        by Mark Slagell
        Sams; ISBN: 0672322528 (March, 2002)

        Ruby Developer's Guide
        by Michael Neumann, Robert Feldt, Lyle Johnson
        Publishers Group West; ISBN: 1928994644 (February, 2002)

        The Ruby Way
        by Hal Fulton
        Sams; ISBN: 0672320835 (December, 2001)

        Ruby In A Nutshell
        by Yukihiro Matsumoto
        O'Reilly & Associates; ISBN: 0596002149 (November, 2001)

        Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
        by Dave Thomas and Andrew Hunt
        Addison Wesley; ISBN: 0201710897 (2000)
        (As of Sept 2004, there is a second edition also. It is
         not open-sourced at this time.)
        Online version: http://www.rubycentral.com/book/
	(Note that this is a *legal* first edition.)
        Download: 
	  http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/downloads/book.html
        Errata: 
	  http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/errata/errata.html

    German language Ruby books (author alpha order):

        Das Einsteigerseminar Ruby. Der methodische und 
        ausf端hrliche Einstieg.
        by Dirk Engel and Klaus Spreckelsen 
        ISBN: 3826672429

        Programmieren mit Ruby
        by Armin Roehrl, Stefan Schmiedl, Clemens Wyss, et al.
        dpunkt.de; ISBN 3898641511 (February, 2002)
	Online: http://www.approximity.com/rubybuch2/node1_main.html

        Programmieren mit Ruby. Handbuch f端r den pragmatischen 
        Programmierer.
	Dave Thomas & Andy Hunt
        Addison-Wesley, 2002; ISBN: 382731965X.
        A German translation of the "Pickaxe" (Programming Ruby).

	Pickaxe translation by Juergen Katins: 
	  http://home.vr-web.de/juergen.katins/ruby/buch/

    Search past postings to comp.lang.ruby or the ruby-lang mail list
    (which have been mirrored to each other since mid-2000):

        http://groups.google.com/groups?q=comp.lang.ruby
        http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/ruby/ruby-talk/index.shtml

    Local Ruby users and groups in your area:

        http://www.pragprog.com/ruby?RubyUserGroups

2 About comp.lang.ruby

2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby

    comp.lang.ruby was officially approved in early May, 2000. 
    (Conrad Schneiker, the former maintainer of this FAQ, was 
    responsible for the "net paperwork" of creating this group.)
    Here is the official charter:

        CHARTER: comp.lang.ruby

        The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup is devoted to discussions of the
        Ruby programming language and related issues.

        Examples of relevant postings include, but are not limited
        to, the following subjects:

        - Bug reports
        - Announcements of software written with Ruby
        - Examples of Ruby code
        - Suggestions for Ruby developers
        - Requests for help from new Ruby programmers

        The newsgroup is not moderated.  Binaries are prohibited
        (except the small PGP type). Advertising is prohibited (except
        for announcements of new Ruby-related products).

        END CHARTER.

2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.

    (You should also follow these guidelines for the ruby-list mail
    list, since it is mirrored to comp.lang.ruby.) 

    (1) ALWAYS be friendly, considerate, tactful, and tasteful.  We
        want to keep this forum hospitable to the growing ranks of
        newbies, very young people, and their teachers, as well as
        cater to fire breathing wizards.  

    (2) Keep your content relevant and easy to follow. Try to keep
        your content brief and to the point, but also try to include
        all relevant information.

        (a) The general format guidelines (aka USENET Netiquette) are
            matters of common sense and common courtesy that make life
            easier for 3rd parties to follow along (in real time or 
            when perusing archives):

            - PLEASE NOTE! Include quoted text from previous posts
              *BEFORE* your responses. And *selectively* quote as much
              as is relevant. 
            - Use *plain* text; don't use HTML, RTF, or Word. Most
              mail or newsreader programs have an option for this; if
              yours doesn't, get a (freeware) program or use a
              web-based service that does.
            - Include examples from files as *in-line* text; don't
              use attachments.

        (b) If reporting a problem, give *all* the relevant
            information the first time; this isn't the psychic friends
            newsgroup.    When appropriate, include:

            - The version of Ruby. ("ruby -v")
            - The compiler name and version used to build Ruby.
            - The OS type and level. ("uname -a")
            - The actual error messages.
            - An example (preferably simple) that produces the
              problem.

    (3) Make the subject line maximally informative, so that people
        who should be interested will read your post and so that people
        who wouldn't be interested can easily avoid it.  

        *Usefully* describe the contents of your post:

            This is OK: 
            
                "How can I do x with y on z?"
                "Problem: did x, expected y, got z."
                "BUG: doing x with module y crashed z."

            This is *NOT* OK:

                "Please help!!!"
                "Newbie question"
                "Need Ruby guru to tell me what's wrong"

	    These prefixes have become common for subject lines:

                ANN:  (for announcements)
	        BUG:  (for bug reports)
	        OT:   (for off-topic, if you must post off-topic)
    
    (4) Finally, be considerate: don't be too lazy. If you are
        seeking information, first make a reasonable effort to look it
        up. As appropriate, check the Ruby home page, check the Ruby
	FAQ and other documentation, use google.com to search past
        comp.lang.ruby postings, and so on.  

2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.

    Matz (aka Yukihiro Matsumoto) is the wizard who created Ruby for
    us, so be nice to him. He is very busy, so be patient when asking
    questions. See the Ruby home page to find out more about him and
    his work. I (Conrad Schneiker) founded comp.lang.ruby at his 
    suggestion. Contrary to lots of skepticism, it was approved on 
    the first attempt, with 200 yes votes.

2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?

    The mailing list is older. When the newsgroup was created, they
    diverged. In mid-2001, Dave Thomas created a two-way gateway 
    that would "mirror" the newsgroup to the list and vice versa.
    (This was accomplished in 200 lines of Ruby code.) It is not 
    perfect; because of variability in the news feed, sometimes 
    messages are dropped or duplicated.

    The online archive of the mailing list therefore includes most
    of the traffic on the newsgroup, excluding the posts that were
    made before the creation of the gateway.

    Note: Spam or other inappropriate messages are NOT the 
    responsibility of Dave Thomas, who maintains the gateway. He
    does everything in his power to deal with this issue. Do NOT
    report spam to his ISP merely because the messages come from
    his server.

2.5 What are these 6-digit message numbers?

    Historically, every item on the mailing list had a subject
    starting with a string like: [ruby-talk:99999]

    The message numbers were convenient since they were strictly
    serial and formed a good way to refer to a past message. But
    they interfered with threading; Matz removed them after the
    matter was put to a vote in early 2002.

    The news header still refers to this number, should anyone
    wish to retrieve it. On the mailing list this number can
    now be found in the X-Mail-Count: header.

    You can point to a specific message by appending it onto the
    ruby-talk.com URL; i.e. http://ruby-talk.com/12345 will refer
    to message 12345. (NOTE: The above was true, but is not
    currently working.)

2.6 What is "POLS"?

    POLS is an abbreviation for "Principle of Least Surprise" (also 
    called the Law of Least Astonishment).

    This term certainly did not originate in the Ruby community, but 
    it has been frequently used there -- even overused or abused at 
    times. After all, *every* language or software system seeks at 
    some level to adhere to this principle. Is any system designed 
    to be unintuitive?

    It is inappropriate to invoke POLS as a "magic word" when one's 
    individual expectations are not met. Ruby continues to evolve, 
    and Matz often makes changes based on people wishes, needs, or 
    suggestions. But he cannot be bribed or threatened. Make 
    suggestions if you wish, but think twice before mentioning POLS.


3. Anything else?

    If you are new to Ruby (or haven't previously taken the Ruby User
    Survey), please take a moment to anonymously tell us about your
    programming background and about your Ruby-related interests. The
    results will be reported back to the Ruby community from time to
    time. This helps us do a better job of helping each other, and to
    more effectively expand the Ruby community for our mutual benefit.
    The survey is at:

        http://dev.rubycentral.com/survey.html

    This FAQ was originally produced by Conrad Schneiker.
    It is now maintained by Hal Fulton (hal9000@hypermetrics.com).
    I'm interested in corrections and suggestions, but remember that
    the purpose of this FAQ is to be a brief and simple introduction
    for new comp.lang.ruby readers.  
    
    In closing, one of the reasons that Ruby was designed to be
    relatively simple, uniform, yet very powerful was to make serious
    programming (among other kinds) fun.  We hope you will help us
    keep comp.lang.ruby fun as well. Enjoy.  


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