From: Gyoung-Yoon Noh <nohmad@...>
Date: 2005-05-07T15:50:41+09:00
Subject: Re: WxRuby or FxRuby

Hi,

FxRuby is a highly recommendable toolkit for its popularity and maturity.
But it has a crucial problem for multibyte input, especially critical to CJK
Windows users. This problem is inherited from Fox toolkit which FxRuby
is based on, and I don't know any detail of other m18n related issues about
Fox. Do they have any motivation or plan to support m18n issues? How's
going with other Latin* languages? Is it only CJK && Windows problem?

I don't know whether XIM or other X-based input methods such as IIIMF,
UIM, SCIM etc are sufficiently portable to Non-UNIX platform. And I don't
know how can other cross-platform toolkits provide multilingual input feature.
Anyway, it is a sad news to CJK people that the toolkit which has serious
deficiency of m18n are most popular.

On 5/7/05, Curt Hibbs <curt@hibbs.com> wrote:
> Friday wrote:
> >
> > I've used FOX, FLTK, and wxWidgets on C++ projects in the past six
> > months (in that sequence).  I used fxRuby and wxRuby but in a very
> > limited way.  BTW, I think substandard support for wxWidgets makes it
> > hard for Python programmers to make the switch (wxPython being so
> > incredibily popular).
> >
> > fxRuby pros:
> > FxRuby seems more popular in Ruby and support for it is clearly better
> > than wxRuby.  I don't know if this is because it was included with the
> > Ruby Installer for Windows or if the FreeRIDE project popularized it.
> 
> I can answer nearly all of the questions in these two paragraphs:
> 
> - FXRuby is the popular in the Ruby community because it is good enough,
> and it was the first GUI toolkit available in Ruby that was good enough.
> 
> - The reason wxRuby's development is not as far along as many of us
> would like is because there aren't enough developers working on it. Nick
> Kral (who took it over from Kevin Smith) is essentially working on it by
> himself and sporadic help from others. One or two added developer's to
> the wxRuby project would make a world of difference.
> 
> - It was the FreeRIDE project that actually started the wxRuby project.
> The GUI comparison that you liked to on the FreeRIDE wiki:
> 
> 
> http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?GUIFrameworkProject/GUIComparison
> 
> was started before FreeRIDE was written because we wanted to figure out
> what GUI to use. FXRuby did not meet all of our needs, but it was the
> best available choice at the time. We started the wxRuby project with
> the goal of replacing FXRuby in FreeRIDE with wxRuby. That would now be
> possible, except that no one has the time to do that now, either!  :-(
> 
> I hope that helped a little.
> 
> Curt
> 
> 


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