[#132675] Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org>

Explaine this to me please:

22 messages 2005/03/02
[#132676] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Javier Valencia wrote:

[#132677] Re: Modules and methods — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/02

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:48:35 +0900, Javier Valencia <jvalencia@log01.org> wrote:

[#132678] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Brian Schrer wrote:

[#132679] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Javier Valencia wrote:

[#132682] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Just another example:

[#132683] Re: Modules and methods — ts <decoux@...> 2005/03/02

>>>>> "J" == Javier Valencia <jvalencia@log01.org> writes:

[#132685] Re: Modules and methods — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/02

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:02 +0900, ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:

[#132686] Re: Modules and methods — ts <decoux@...> 2005/03/02

>>>>> "B" == Brian Schr=F6der?= <ISO-8859-1> writes:

[#132689] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

ts wrote:

[#132703] A wish: Simple database — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Hi, all...

35 messages 2005/03/02

[#132778] post inc problem — Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2005/03/03
[#132780] Re: post inc problem — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/03

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:14:44 +0900, Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@chello.hu> wrote:

[#132783] RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

Below, I posting the entire text of this blog entry:

96 messages 2005/03/03
[#132784] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132786] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Alexander Kellett <ruby-lists@...> 2005/03/03

On Mar 3, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132794] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/03/03

[#132823] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/03/03

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:21:03 +0900, Alexander Kellett

[#132845] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

Lyle Johnson wrote:

[#132859] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/04

Hi,

[#132901] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — leon breedt <bitserf@...> 2005/03/04

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:45:16 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto

[#132821] Re: RAA Status & b — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132822] Re: RAA Status & b — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

James Britt wrote:

[#132826] Re: RAA Status & b — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132827] Re: RAA Status & b — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/03

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 05:02:52 +0900, Ben Giddings

[#132830] Re: RAA Status & b — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2005/03/03

[#132881] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

Sam Roberts [mailto:sroberts@uniserve.com] wrote:

25 messages 2005/03/04
[#132883] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting botp@delmonte-phil.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:21:01PM +0900:

[#132884] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2005/03/04

[#132889] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting rich@infoether.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:47:34PM +0900:

[#132894] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2005/03/04

[#132899] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting rich@infoether.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:11:16PM +0900:

[#132913] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/04

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:37:28 +0900, Sam Roberts

[#132925] Roman Numerals (#22) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

24 messages 2005/03/04

[#132989] building rdocs for Rake — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

11 messages 2005/03/05

[#133002] ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — Minero Aoki <aamine@...>

Hi all,

29 messages 2005/03/06
[#133004] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/06

Hi --

[#133006] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/06

Hi,

[#133010] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/06

Hi --

[#133021] Noob:Objects as key in hash — Tom Willis <tom.willis@...>

Hi all,

14 messages 2005/03/06

[#133058] WEBrick for a local application? — Jeremy Bear <jeremy.bear@...>

Hello!

17 messages 2005/03/07
[#133060] Re: WEBrick for a local application? — Joao Pedrosa <joaopedrosa@...> 2005/03/07

Hi,

[#133063] Re: WEBrick for a local application? — Jeremy Bear <jeremy.bear@...> 2005/03/07

> > My main question, I guess, is this: Is there any way that I can use

[#133094] ncurses ruby and utf-8 — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...>

hello group,

12 messages 2005/03/07

[#133255] Tiny URLs — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>

Informal poll: Are there others as leery as I am of tinyurl and similar

33 messages 2005/03/10

[#133265] ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>

14 messages 2005/03/10
[#133345] Re: ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Ian Macdonald <ian@...> 2005/03/11

On Thu 10 Mar 2005 at 20:46:51 +0900, Dick Davies wrote:

[#133366] Re: ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...> 2005/03/11

* Ian Macdonald <ian@caliban.org> [0345 06:45]:

[#133313] Gateway broken? — "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Berger@...>

Hi all,

18 messages 2005/03/10
[#133314] Re: Gateway broken? — "ES" <ruby-ml@...> 2005/03/10

On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said:

[#133317] Re: Gateway broken? — Dennis Oelkers <dennis@...> 2005/03/10

Hey folks,

[#133336] Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

This is an informal announcement of a possible position for

23 messages 2005/03/11
[#133338] Re: [JOB] Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...> 2005/03/11

On Mar 10, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Joel VanderWerf wrote:

[#133382] Redesign 2005 Blog — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

The vit-core team (assigned to redesign ruby-lang.org) has unveiled our

30 messages 2005/03/11
[#133491] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005 Blog — "Josef 'Jupp' Schugt" <jupp@...> 2005/03/13

why the lucky stiff wrote:

[#133426] Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

Seattle.rb will be hosting a RubyGems cleanup and enhancement codefest!

46 messages 2005/03/12
[#133532] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/14

Eric Hodel wrote:

[#133542] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — vruz <horacio.lopez@...> 2005/03/14

> Is there any chance you could start this process a little bit? Choose

[#133548] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/03/15

On Mar 14, 2005, at 5:18 PM, vruz wrote:

[#133432] Help a newbie pick a gui tool kit — Dennis Roberts <denrober@...>

So I am still learning Ruby. I am also learning C. I just did

39 messages 2005/03/12

[#133483] how do you duck-type something to String, so String believes you? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

I can give something a #to_str, which should be an indication that it is

11 messages 2005/03/13

[#133511] RubyURL.com — Robby Russell <robby@...>

I felt like giving myself a small project to get my feet a bit more wet

27 messages 2005/03/14

[#133550] Getting Started with Orbjson tutorial — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>

I wrote a tutorial on using the Orbjson library to create Web

12 messages 2005/03/15
[#133553] Re: [ANN] Getting Started with Orbjson tutorial — vruz <horacio.lopez@...> 2005/03/15

> I wrote a tutorial on using the Orbjson library to create Web

[#133611] class variables and class instance variable? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello.

20 messages 2005/03/15

[#133614] n body problem — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

Here's a first pass at the n body problem in the shootout - I've tried

23 messages 2005/03/15

[#133616] will '@@' disapear in ruby2? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello there!

13 messages 2005/03/15

[#133688] eval/binding question — Stefan Kaes <skaes@...>

I tried to create local variables from a name=>value hash passed as a

23 messages 2005/03/15
[#133703] Re: eval/binding question — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/15

Hi,

[#133719] Re: eval/binding question — Stefan Kaes <skaes@...> 2005/03/15

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#133748] FAQ for comp.lang.ruby — hal9000@...

RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2004-10-16)

15 messages 2005/03/15

[#133785] Examples for racc? — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>

Hey all,

15 messages 2005/03/15

[#133852] Fibonacci Benchmark Correction — jzakiya@...

The Great Computer Language Shootout Benchmarks

26 messages 2005/03/16

[#133875] Symbol vs String — Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2005/03/16

[#133909] bug? ruby doesn't flush stdio on exit! — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

This can't be a feature... stdio should flush on exit!

11 messages 2005/03/17

[#133959] new language shootout — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...>

Hi, I have been thinking a bit on creating a new language shootout. All

11 messages 2005/03/17

[#133981] Maximum stack depth — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...>

It would be useful to have a Ruby command-line option to specify a

27 messages 2005/03/17

[#133999] Free Rails hosting? — Aquila <braempje@...>

I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather try Rails.

23 messages 2005/03/17

[#134022] encapsulating rubygems so that my users don't need to be aware of it — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org>

Hi!

9 messages 2005/03/17

[#134074] Crobjob problem with ruby script. — "andreas.cahen@..." <andreas.cahen@...>

Hi!

19 messages 2005/03/18

[#134078] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E02 - Nitro, a Ruby Based WebFramework

75 messages 2005/03/18
[#134092] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/03/18

Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#136612] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org> 2005/04/03

On 2005-04-03, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#136628] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/03

Csaba Henk wrote:

[#136631] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Saynatkari <ruby-ml@...> 2005/04/03

[#136640] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/03

Saynatkari wrote:

[#136702] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org> 2005/04/04

On 2005-04-04, Robert Klemme <bob.news@gmx.net> wrote:

[#136713] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/04

Csaba Henk wrote:

[#134080] Texas Hold'Em (#24) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

17 messages 2005/03/18

[#134103] Iterating through a string and removing leading characters — Randy Kramer <rhkramer@...>

This is going to seem a little strange (for a number of reasons I might

44 messages 2005/03/18

[#134158] Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Paul wrote an article about his recommendations for current

93 messages 2005/03/19
[#134244] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:

[#134248] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — "Florian Frank" <flori@...> 2005/03/19

Martin DeMello wrote:

[#134250] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/19

Hi --

[#134304] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/20

David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:

[#134270] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/19

Hi,

[#134169] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@...> 2005/03/19

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:54:41 +0900, Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134182] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@gmail.com> writes:

[#134218] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134221] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@...> 2005/03/19

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:35:50 +0900, Navindra Umanee

[#134227] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134232] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134234] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134236] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134237] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134242] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134200] strip and its evil brother strip! — Aquila <braempje@...>

Possibly a stupid question: why does strip! of a string with a single

37 messages 2005/03/19
[#134203] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/03/19

Aquila wrote:

[#134207] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2005/03/19

Glenn Parker wrote:

[#134220] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/03/19

Florian Gross wrote:

[#134223] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2005/03/19

Glenn Parker wrote:

[#134210] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Jason Sweat <jason.sweat@...> 2005/03/19

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:07:15 +0900, Glenn Parker

[#134213] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/19

Hi --

[#134215] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/19

I ranted about this very behavior 2 days ago. I'm willing to do an RCR

[#134262] RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...>

I know that it's not standard policy to announce RCRs on ruby-talk,

90 messages 2005/03/19
[#134276] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/19

For those interested in an alternative, I just put this up on the RCR:

[#134577] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/22

Hi,

[#134594] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/22

Yes, I am liking the proposal less and less as time goes on. And I'm

[#134697] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/22

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#134370] can WEBrick bind to port 0, and then tell me what port was allocated? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

I don't want to use a hard-coded port number, I want it to bind to

12 messages 2005/03/20

[#134413] Ruby, brother of VB? — "Mike Cox" <mikecoxlinux@...>

Hi. I am researching a language to switch to after Microsoft EOL'd classic

16 messages 2005/03/21

[#134481] FMOD or other sound libraries...anyone? — david@... (David Casal)

I'm looking for a good Ruby sound library...

19 messages 2005/03/21

[#134517] Support for 10x Productivity Increase with Rails! — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

I got a lot of flack for what I wrote in my ONLamp.com article on Rails when

27 messages 2005/03/21

[#134555] Ruby newbie: 3 week learning project — "Al Abut - alabut.com" <alabut@...>

Hi all, I'm (very) new to Ruby and I'm blogging out every day of a 3

16 messages 2005/03/21

[#134642] Getting the word to conventional programmers — claird@... (Cameron Laird)

*DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in

25 messages 2005/03/22

[#134660] RubyConf 2005 Preregistration now open! — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

17 messages 2005/03/22

[#134710] Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — "Arfin" <arfinmail@...>

Is there some kind of class to format numbers? Something to let you

75 messages 2005/03/22
[#134718] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/22

Hi --

[#134724] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...> 2005/03/22

> I try to follow the style that is predominant in the Ruby parts of the

[#134730] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/03/22

On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:24 PM, Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#134747] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/03/23

* James Edward Gray II (Mar 22, 2005 23:50):

[#134736] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? [OT] tabs vs. spaces — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/22

Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#134740] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? [OT] tabs vs. spaces — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/22

Quoting bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com, on Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 08:17:53AM +0900:

[#134866] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

Since you were a very young rabbit in little cotton pants, Dwemthy's

17 messages 2005/03/23
[#134885] Re: [ANN] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2005/03/23

In article <50756767050323100730f7f739@mail.gmail.com>,

[#134892] Re: [ANN] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — Patrick Hurley <phurley@...> 2005/03/23

> No doubt _why has put some magic in DwemthysArray that we're missing.

[#134896] Ruby article on DevSource — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

FWIW, DevSource.com (previously mentioned here) now has

13 messages 2005/03/23

[#134990] Syntax 0.7.0 — Jamis Buck <jamis@37signals.com>

Syntax is a pure-Ruby framework for doing lexical analysis (and, in

23 messages 2005/03/24
[#135020] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/24

Quoting jamis@37signals.com, on Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 02:54:20PM +0900:

[#135038] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/03/24

Sam Roberts ha scritto:

[#135042] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/24

Quoting jamis@37signals.com, on Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 01:27:37AM +0900:

[#135013] Syntax for gem list file when hosting own rubygems repository — James Britt <james_b@...>

Are there online docs for creating the YAML file needed when

10 messages 2005/03/24

[#135092] OO database concepts... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

I've been thinking about OO databases -- never having really

24 messages 2005/03/25

[#135147] A Poll — "jeem" <jeem.hughes@...>

Hello group. Please take a minute to satisfy my idle curiousity. I'll

72 messages 2005/03/25

[#135168] Hash::MixIn and Python style Object#dict — Florian Gross <flgr@...>

Moin.

17 messages 2005/03/25
[#135179] Re: Hash::MixIn and Python style Object#dict — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/03/25

Florian Gross ha scritto:

[#135200] English Numerals (#25) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

22 messages 2005/03/25

[#135236] Rake 0.5.0 Release — Jim Weirich <jim@...>

= Rake 0.5.0 Released

14 messages 2005/03/25

[#135253] comment on today's poll and more questions — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

15 messages 2005/03/26

[#135265] Evaluator for a mini-Ruby in Haskell — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...>

Maybe I need to rethink my view of Haskell after all:

17 messages 2005/03/26

[#135372] RubyScript2Exe 0.3.3 — "Erik Veenstra" <pan@...>

17 messages 2005/03/26

[#135393] ! haphazard — bertrandmuscle@...

is ! haphazardly implemented for a reason?

18 messages 2005/03/27
[#135395] Re: ! haphazard — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/27

Tell us what you mean by 'haphazardly' ?

[#135399] Re: ! haphazard — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/03/27

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:47:15 +0900, Daniel Amelang

[#135400] Re: ! haphazard — bertrandmuscle@... 2005/03/27

>>Tell us what you mean by 'haphazardly' ?

[#135404] Re: ! haphazard — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/27

Gotcha. Well, I can tell you firsthand about the controversies of the

[#135480] Ruby Weekly News 21st - 27th March 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)

http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20050327.html

17 messages 2005/03/28
[#135826] Re: Ruby Weekly News 21st - 27th March 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland) 2005/03/30

In article <slrnd4ffpm.98l.timsuth@europa.zone>, Tim Sutherland wrote:

[#135484] Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "Peter C. Verhage" <usenet2@...>

Hi,

36 messages 2005/03/28
[#135554] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "B. K. Oxley (binkley)" <binkley@...> 2005/03/28

Lothar Scholz wrote:

[#135485] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "Neville Burnell" <Neville.Burnell@...>

I'm using jedit [www.jedit.org]

26 messages 2005/03/28
[#135519] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — Chris Morris <the.chrismo@...> 2005/03/28

> I'm using jedit [www.jedit.org ]

[#135615] Re: Java for Rubyists — "Albert Chou" <achou@...>

I'm not anything like a Java expert, but I do refer to Bruce Eckel's

18 messages 2005/03/29
[#135623] Re: Java for Rubyists — Tom Willis <tom.willis@...> 2005/03/29

I second Eckel

[#135686] Re: Java for Rubyists — Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@...> 2005/03/29

> I fell the original posters pain. My work world is filled with long

[#135699] FreeBSD Rubyists? Do Remote Objects work for you? — Miles Keaton <mileskeaton@...>

Looking for any Ruby users on FreeBSD.

11 messages 2005/03/29

[#135708] attr :<symbol>? — Luke Renn <goseigen@...>

What is the proper term for things like attr :<id> and belongs_to

18 messages 2005/03/29

[#135770] Open letter to anyone developing a Ruby IDE — "Adelle Hartley" <adelle@...>

It has been said that features like "intellisense" or "autocomplete" are

25 messages 2005/03/30
[#135778] Re: Open letter to anyone developing a Ruby IDE — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/03/30

Hello Adelle,

[#135784] Blah-Blah List (and why line counts are a bad metric) — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>

So, I did a search for Ruby on Rails today, and my interest was piqued

13 messages 2005/03/30

[#135806] - Time for "comp.lang.ruby.announce" ? — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

I've noticed a high ammount of announcements ("[ANN]") on this group.

21 messages 2005/03/30

[#135820] Poor efficency of Ruby... — JZ <spamerom@...>

I have prior experiency with php and recently pythonic application servers

48 messages 2005/03/30

[#135841] look-behind regexp ? — Shajith <demerzel@...>

Hi!

14 messages 2005/03/30

[#135859] Defining a Class Accessor — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

I was playing around with an idea in another thread and ran into a

13 messages 2005/03/30

[#135863] Respect and Disappointment — Curt Hibbs <curt@...>

I've finally started a blog. I really didn't want to go public with it

148 messages 2005/03/30
[#136024] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Josef Pospisil <perails@...> 2005/03/31

Hello Curt,

[#136033] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Bill Atkins <batkins57@...> 2005/03/31

Ridiculous. You're saying Rails (I'm assuming that's what you mean by

[#136048] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/03/31

My .02 cents:

[#136087] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 6:17 AM, Francis Hwang <sera@fhwang.net> wrote:

[#136122] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/31

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#136127] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 12:11 PM, Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> wrote:

[#136135] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/03/31

* Austin Ziegler (Mar 31, 2005 19:30):

[#136159] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 1:01 PM, Nikolai Weibull

[#136147] Re: Respect and Disappointment — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...> 2005/03/31

> I've finally started a blog. I really didn't want to go public with it

[#136171] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Stephen Kellett <snail@...> 2005/03/31

In message <6c87a002d5858216dd00a4abe83e032d@loudthinking.com>, David

[#136006] Complete beginner in programming — "Roger Grosswiler" <roger@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2005/03/31

Ruby Weekly News 14th - 20th March 2005

From: tim.sutherland@...
Date: 2005-03-20 10:39:55 UTC
List: ruby-talk #134321
http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20050320.html

Note: I may have accidently posted this twice - my usenet connection is
playing up. Please send any feedback to timsuth@ihug.co.nz rather than
the gmail address this post is sent from.

   Ruby Weekly News 14th - 20th March 2005
   ---------------------------------------

   Ruby Weekly News is a summary of the week's activity on the
ruby-talk
   mailing list / the comp.lang.ruby newsgroup, brought to you by Tim
   Sutherland.

Articles and Announcements
--------------------------

     * RubyGems Documentation Site

       Jim Weirich announced the RubyGems Documentation Site, replacing
the
       previous Wiki-based documentation. It now uses the Hieraki
application
       (which is also used for the official Ruby on Rails
documentation).

     * 2005 International Obfuscated Ruby Code Contest

       Todd Nathan announced the "final stretch" of the 2005
International
       Obfuscated Ruby Code Contest (IORCC). "In addition to a covented
right
       of claiming you are most obscure Ruby coder for 12 months time,
you
       also have a shot at over 750 USD worth of prizes", from a number
of
       sponsors.

       The deadline for submissions is midnight on March 31, 2005.
(It's not
       clear what timezone.)

Quote of the Week
-----------------

   Paul Duncan enthusiastically announced Raggle.

     "After a more than a year of near-death rescue missions,
high-speed car
     chases, and hair-splitting battles with evil masterminds, the
mysterious
     Raggle Task Force (Codename: R4) has emerged once again to release
     Raggle 0.4.0, the most powerful Ruby-based console RSS aggregator
     humanity has ever seen!"

Threads
-------

   Interesting threads this week included:

  nonblock extension for win32?
  -----------------------------

   We covered this thread last week, but there were some significant
   additions this time around. Bill Kelly asked if it was likely that
some of
   the libraries in Win32 Utils would become part of standard Ruby.
Daniel
   Berger replied "No. At best some of the Win32 Utils packages might
be
   included with the one-click Installer."

   Curt Hibbs responded positively, saying "I would really like to
include
   some/many/all of the win32 utils in the one-click installer. But I
am way
   over extended. I'll get to it eventually, but if someone wants to
help out
   it would speed things up."

   Later on, Shashank Date announced a One-click installer for
win32utils
   that makes it much easier to install the win32utils packages.

  Advice on PDF::Writer
  ---------------------

   Austin Ziegler is "in the middle of a major overhaul to
PDF::Writer",
   including many API changes. He's almost ready to make a release, but
the
   API for tables is still being worked on. Should he release now, and
then
   make another API-incompatible change later, or wait?

   Several people thought he should release it now. vruz:

     "Having the thing out will help to improve things faster and
relieve
     Austin from the pressure of packing everything in a short period
of
     time.

     Another good reason for releasing now is not all generated
documents
     will make use of tables."

  One Click Installer
  -------------------

   DaZoner asked if there would be a new release of the Ruby One-Click
   Windows Installer beyond 1.8.2-14 anytime soon?

   Wolfgang N疆asi-Donner said he'd had problems with using irb with a
German
   keyboard in the latest release. Stephan K舂per posted a link to the
   solution.

   Curt Hibbs attempted to reply, but didn't actually write anything.
Perhaps
   we'll find out his answer next week!

  Ruby UTF-8
  ----------

   Peter C was writing a Ruby program which included Japanese strings
   (encoded in UTF-8).

   He was getting errors like

 c:\> ruby -Ku myFile.rb
 jpn.rb:1: undefined method `&#8745;&#9559;&#9488;' for main:Object
 (NoMethodError)

   The file was created in Windows notepad.

   Wolfgang N疆asi-Donner explained that notepad writes a "Byte Order
Mark"
   (BOM) at the beginning of UTF-8 encoded files.

   Florian Gross suggested a workaround:

     "Another one is to have an assignment to a scratch variable at the
     beginning of the script. Ruby will parse the BOM as the part of
the
     variable name and thus not complain about it."

   Florian had posted a comment about this issue on ruby-core some
months ago
   and thought Ruby should be able to accept files with a BOM.

  Naming tips for popen4-style library?
  -------------------------------------

   Jonathan Paisley wrote a new popen library featuring an OO
interface,
   independent access to stdin, stdout, stderr, plus the ability to
send
   signals to a child process and get its exit status. It is also
   thread-safe.

   He has initially called it Popen4 (the name of the Python library it
was
   modelled after), but is looking for a better name. (He later
suggested
   "ChildProcess".)

   Daniel Berger recalled an Open4 class written by Ara Howard a year
ago.
   This returned the pid of the child process as well as the streams.
The
   win32-open3 package has an Open4 module that uses the same API as
Ara's.

   Daniel felt that the Ruby community should try to reach consensus on
the
   API for this feature.

   Jonathan had previously discussed this issue with Ara and agreed
that it
   would be good to decide on an API and behaviour.

  Opening for an entry level position in SLC Utah
  -----------------------------------------------

   A job to develop a Ruby on Rails application was posted. Jeremy
Kemper
   said that people looking for Rails work should list themselves on
the
   AvailableForHire page on the Rails wiki.

   There is also a job postings page.

  async http request
  ------------------

   Bob Aman was writing a Rails application (a common theme these
days). He
   has a page which needs to query a web service, retrieve some RSS
feeds and
   do SQL queries. Currently he was executing these one after the
after. How
   could he do them all at the same time?

   James Britt said he should use threads.

  Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement
  -------------------------------------------------

   Continuing this thread from last week, Mauricio Fern疣dez responded
to a
   question about the status of RPA (Ruby Production Archive).

     "The port/package manager (rpa-base) and the incipient
infrastructure
     (repository, VCS, wiki) are unsatisfactory under our (admittedly
severe)
     criteria. They will undergo major restructuring. Had they been
deemed
     adequate, RPA would have been proposed for widespread public
consumption
     long ago, but it was in a testing phase for a reason."

   As far as the idea of combining RubyGems and RPA, Mauricio argued
that
   they have fundamentally different goals. For example, RPA aims to
work
   with existing tools (like rpm, FreeBSD ports etc.) and provide
packages
   created by a dedicated team. In comparison, RubyGems is intended to
be
   used instead of rpm etc. and packages are usually created by whoever
   developed the application or library.

   Mauricio also said he would appreciate it if RubyGems developers
would
   describe their goals in a similar way to the RPA Manifesto.

   Chad Fowler said he did not want RubyGems to have a manifesto, but
gave
   his take on the purposes of RubyGems:

     "1. A package format for Ruby libraries and applications.
      2. A system for managing installation of such packages from both
local
      and remote sources.
      3. A "master source"/repository for such packages.
      4. Intended to be Ruby's standard for package creation and
distribution."

   Austin Ziegler disagreed with Mauricio's comments, saying

     "Nothing about RubyGems *prevents* any of the above. Nothing. The
gemspec
     can be translated into "native" tools, and the RPA-base layer
could be
     implemented on top of RubyGems as a platform (e.g., making the
     sitelibdir and DATADIR support work), and since Matz seems to have
     indicated that RubyGems will become part of the core when it's
ready,
     then it will work transparently."

   There was some push-back on that last part - Matz had previously
said he
   wanted the RubyGems and RPA teams to agree on a common system. Matz
   clarified,

     "I just don't want to discourage one side by merging another. If
RPA camp
     say "OK, we go our way, nevertheless Gems merged in the
distribution",
     that's fine for me. Did they?"

   There was no answer at the time this edition "went to press".

  RubyURL.com
  -----------

   Robby Russell created the site http://rubyurl.com/ to get his feet
wet
   with Rails. It takes a long URL and returns a link like
   http://rubyurl.com/Hcq7h that forwards you to the real site.

   There was some discussion of the approach taken. Thomas Hurst
pointed out
   qurl.net, a Ruby-based link-forwarding server he'd written.

   Hal Fulton asked

     "Had you considered a scheme in which the original domain name is
part of
     the shortened URL?
     http://rubyurl.com/www.yahoo.com:ajZkXDls
     That way we could at least confirm what domain we were directed
to."

  eval/binding question
  ---------------------

   Stefan Kaes discovered that

  def test1
     eval "x=25"
     eval 'print "x=#{x}\n"'
   end

   test1

   def test2
     eval "x=25"
     print "x=#{x}\n"
   end

   test2

   produces

 x=25
 test.rb:189:in `test2': undefined local variable or method `x' for
 main:Object ( NameError)
         from test.rb:192

   So test1 finds the variable, but test2 doesn't.

   Matz explained

     "local variables should be determined at compile time, thus local
     variables defined first in the eval'ed string, can only be
accessed from
     other eval'ed strings. In addition, they will be more ephemeral in
     Ruby2, so that these variables will not be accessed from outside.

     In summary, I recommend you not to use local variables for your
purpose.
     They are wrong tool for it."

   Stefan felt that it would be better to allow the variables to be
accessed
   from outside, and Matz responded

     "But it's not good strategy to persuade me to use "your
expectation" or
     "your surprise". This "limitation" has a lot of good aspects, such
as
     better performance, better error detection, etc. I'd love to pay
the
     cost of small restriction for these benefits as a language
designer."

  Stable sort?
  ------------

   Hal Fulton wanted a "stable" sort algorithm, i.e. one where if two
   elements are judged to be equal in the ordering (where <=> returns
0) they
   end up in the same order relative to one another in the output as
they
   were in the input.

   Ruby's Enumerable#sort uses the Quicksort algorithm, which is not
   "stable".

   Matz thought that the following would be a slightly inefficient
solution,
   but not too bad:

 n = 0
 ary.sort_by {|x| n+= 1; [x, n]}

  MS Windows automation - howto use it?
  -------------------------------------

   Axel wanted to automate an application using the WIN32OLE library.
How to
   you get from the following code to something that works for a
different
   application? What should the argument to WIN32OLE.new be, and how do
you
   find out what methods are available on the resulting object?

 ie = WIN32OLE.new('InternetExplorer.Application')
 ie.visible = true
 ie.gohome

   Thomas pointed out the #ole_methods method. This tells you what
methods
   the underlying COM interface supports, but not what arguments they
expect.
   Adelle Hartley pointed to an OLE Object Browser written in Ruby that
   provides more information.

   Dave Burt decided to write his own OLE browser.

  Ruby mentions at Microsofts Competitive Influentials Summit
  -----------------------------------------------------------

   Gordon Hartley noticed some references to Ruby in a blog.

     `Richard Monson-Haefel asks "Is there a place for AOP in .NET or
is it
     too sophisticated for your developers." Don's take is "My
development
     platform should allow me to write code w/ a couple of beers in
me." He
     ragged a bit on Java developers and said their main problem is
they
     think they're smarter than they are. He also said that if he could
     change one thing at MSFT, it would be that Ruby becomes the
language of
     choice.'

  Examples for racc?
  ------------------

   Ben Giddings wanted some examples of code that use the Racc parser.

   Charles Comstock suggested looking in the sample or test directories
of
   the Racc source tarball, and Luke Graham mentioned LittleLexer as an
   alternative parser.

  Using C++ libraries in Ruby
  ---------------------------

   T E wanted to know if it was possible to use C++ libraries from
Ruby.

   Nikolai Weibull referred to the ruby embedded into c++ page by Simon
   Strandgaard. It shows how to access C++ classes from Ruby, as well
as Ruby
   classes from C++.

   Ruby works well with C, so an alternative is to simply access the
library
   via a C interface.

  Texas Hold'Em
  -------------

   Matthew D Moss came up with this week's Ruby Quiz,

   Interpret sets of hands in the "Texas Hold'Em" card game (a
variation of
   Poker), to report "Full House", "Two Pair", "Flush" etc.

   There was some fun discussion about poker.

  Wanted: A nice clean ruby app to disect
  ---------------------------------------

   Curt Hibbs was part of a new Ruby User's Group in Saint Louis,
Missouri in
   the U.S. "About 90% of our members are new to Ruby, and we decided
that a
   good way to get started would be to dissect the code of a Ruby app
to
   learn Ruby and its idioms first-hand from *real* code."

   What applications would the community recommend?

   James Edward Gray II suggested the Ruby Quiz solutions. Mike Clark
thought
   RubLog would be worth looking at.

  Paul Graham recommends Ruby
  ---------------------------

   Joe Van Dyk read an article by Paul Graham on his recommendations
for
   undergraduate computer science students and noticed that it
recommends
   Ruby.

     If you want to work at a cool little company or research lab,
you'll do
     better to learn Ruby on Linux.

  how do you duck-type something to String, so String believes you?
  -----------------------------------------------------------------

   Sam Roberts had implemented a class which defined #to_str (which
indicates
   that the class should be considered a String, as opposed to merely
   defining #to_s). "That's all fine, but that doesn't mean that String
will
   allow itself to be compared to my class." (Via String#==.)

   Navindra Umanee warned that

     "String is also strongly-typed in C as T_STRING, so Ruby
duck-typing is
     not going to save you here. Ruby is riddled with that sort of
thing,
     probably for efficiency and implementation reasons."

   ES said that the String#== method turns str==other into other==str
if
   other is not T_STRING. This means that Sam simply needs to define an
#==
   method in his class that compares against a String.

New Releases
------------

     * PageTemplate 1.2.0

       Brian Wisti improved PageTemplate, a library for using text
templates
       in web projects. Additions include comment syntax and unless.

     * Alexandria 0.5.0

       Laurent Sansonetti released Alexandria 0.5.0. It is a GNOME
       application for managing book collections. Export-to-XHTML
support has
       been added, as has support for loaning, books without ISBN
numbers,
       and many bug fixes.

     * FastCST 3.0, FastCST 0.4: SMTP+POP3 Distribution, FastCST 0.4
       Packaging Fix

       Zed A. Shaw put up another release of FastCST, an experimental
       changeset tool. Version 0.3 added YAML meta-data support for
       changesets, plus get and put commands. Version 0.4 added send,
recv
       and read commands to integrate the tool with email.

       A tutorial was also written.

     * Orbjson 0.0.4 released

       James Britt added support for asynchronous requests to Ruby
Orbjson.
       This library provides Ruby-Javascript integration for JSON-RPC
       requests, making it easier to write web applications which use
Ruby on
       the server and Javascript on the client. He later announced a
tutorial
       he'd written for the library.

     * MuraveyWeb-Ruby CMS

       Dmitry V. Sabanin announced the first public release of
MuraveyWeb, a
       CMS built with Ruby on Rails. It features separation of content
and
       views. "With MW you can create and manage your content and then
using
       MW API and Ruby On Rails you can build views to display it the
way you
       like."

     * RubyGems 0.8.7, RubyGems 0.8.8

       Jim Weirich announced RubyGems 0.8.7, a popular tool for
packaging and
       installing Ruby programs and libraries. This was quickly
followed by
       RubyGems 0.8.8 to fix an important bug for developers who create
..gem
       packages.

       "First the numbers, 220 different gems available, over 25,000
       downloads of RubyGems, and nearly 190,000 gems downloads."

       New features include a cleanup command to delete old versions of
a gem
       and dependency to show dependencies. A library called
gemconfigure has
       been written to allow a Ruby program to be version sensitive
without
       depending on RubyGems where that capability is not needed.
Another
       addition is gemwhich, a program to help users to locate
       RubyGems-managed files.

     * Ruby/LDAP 0.9.1: LDAP API (RFC1823) library

       Ian Macdonald recently took over maintenance of Ruby/LDAP from
Takaaki
       Tateishi. The latest release includes some API tweaks.
Connections can
       now be rebound with new credentials and an LDIF module has been
added.

     * RbTET a Ruby TET API binding

       Neil Moses announced the first release of a Ruby binding to TET
(Test
       Environment Toolkit).

     * webgen 0.3.1

       Thomas Leitner released a new version of webgen, a tool for
creating
       web pages from page description and template files. Major
changes
       include improved picture gallery support, automatic validation
of HTML
       files and configurable page file output names.

     * Nitro + Og 0.13.0

       George Moschovitis improved Nitro (a web application framework)
and Og
       (an object-relational mapper). Nitro now has a Mailer subsystem,
an
       AJAX example (which shows how to develop a Google Suggest-style
UI),
       and a Rails compatible directory structure. Og is better
separated
       from Nitro, has database-related validations and many bugfixes.

     * Pimki 1.6

       Assaph Mehr released Pimki 1.6, a PIM based on the Instiki Wiki.

     * Ruby/ZOOM 0.1.0

       Laurent Sansonetti was "happy to announce the first release of
       Ruby/ZOOM!"

       "Ruby/ZOOM provides a Ruby binding to the Z39.50
Object-Orientation
       Model (ZOOM), an abstract object-oriented programming interface
to a
       subset of the services specified by the Z39.50 standard, also
known as
       the international standard ISO 23950." (Used mainly for book
       information retrieval.) It will be integrated into the next
release of
       the Alexandria book collection manager.

     * One-click installer for win32utils

       On behalf of the win32utils team, Shashank Date announced
version
       0.0.3 of the "one-click installer for win32utils".

       "This installer will install win32utils modules which are
compatible
       with the latest one-click installer for Ruby on the Windows
platform."

     * Kashmir/Elusion 0.2

       Christian Neukirchen set out the first public release of
       Kashmir/Elusion, a templating engine that "tries to walk on the
small
       path between the mess of raw evaluated Ruby like ERB and the
clinical
       sterileness of data-driven templating like Amrita."

     * RhizMail 0.1.0

       Francis Hwang release RhizMail 0.1.0, a "test-friendly" library
for
       sending out emails that are customised to the destination user.

     * Raggle 0.4.0

       Paul Duncan warned "It's SHOCKING... It's DARING! It's
INCREDIBLE!!"
       It was in fact Raggle 0.4.0, a web and console based RSS
aggregator.



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