[#132675] Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org>

Explaine this to me please:

22 messages 2005/03/02
[#132676] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Javier Valencia wrote:

[#132677] Re: Modules and methods — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/02

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:48:35 +0900, Javier Valencia <jvalencia@log01.org> wrote:

[#132678] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Brian Schrer wrote:

[#132679] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Javier Valencia wrote:

[#132682] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Just another example:

[#132683] Re: Modules and methods — ts <decoux@...> 2005/03/02

>>>>> "J" == Javier Valencia <jvalencia@log01.org> writes:

[#132685] Re: Modules and methods — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/02

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:02 +0900, ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:

[#132686] Re: Modules and methods — ts <decoux@...> 2005/03/02

>>>>> "B" == Brian Schr=F6der?= <ISO-8859-1> writes:

[#132689] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

ts wrote:

[#132703] A wish: Simple database — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Hi, all...

35 messages 2005/03/02

[#132778] post inc problem — Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2005/03/03
[#132780] Re: post inc problem — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/03

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:14:44 +0900, Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@chello.hu> wrote:

[#132783] RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

Below, I posting the entire text of this blog entry:

96 messages 2005/03/03
[#132784] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132786] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Alexander Kellett <ruby-lists@...> 2005/03/03

On Mar 3, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132794] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/03/03

[#132823] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/03/03

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:21:03 +0900, Alexander Kellett

[#132845] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

Lyle Johnson wrote:

[#132859] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/04

Hi,

[#132901] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — leon breedt <bitserf@...> 2005/03/04

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:45:16 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto

[#132821] Re: RAA Status & b — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132822] Re: RAA Status & b — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

James Britt wrote:

[#132826] Re: RAA Status & b — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132827] Re: RAA Status & b — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/03

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 05:02:52 +0900, Ben Giddings

[#132830] Re: RAA Status & b — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2005/03/03

[#132881] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

Sam Roberts [mailto:sroberts@uniserve.com] wrote:

25 messages 2005/03/04
[#132883] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting botp@delmonte-phil.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:21:01PM +0900:

[#132884] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2005/03/04

[#132889] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting rich@infoether.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:47:34PM +0900:

[#132894] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2005/03/04

[#132899] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting rich@infoether.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:11:16PM +0900:

[#132913] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/04

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:37:28 +0900, Sam Roberts

[#132925] Roman Numerals (#22) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

24 messages 2005/03/04

[#132989] building rdocs for Rake — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

11 messages 2005/03/05

[#133002] ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — Minero Aoki <aamine@...>

Hi all,

29 messages 2005/03/06
[#133004] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/06

Hi --

[#133006] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/06

Hi,

[#133010] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/06

Hi --

[#133021] Noob:Objects as key in hash — Tom Willis <tom.willis@...>

Hi all,

14 messages 2005/03/06

[#133058] WEBrick for a local application? — Jeremy Bear <jeremy.bear@...>

Hello!

17 messages 2005/03/07
[#133060] Re: WEBrick for a local application? — Joao Pedrosa <joaopedrosa@...> 2005/03/07

Hi,

[#133063] Re: WEBrick for a local application? — Jeremy Bear <jeremy.bear@...> 2005/03/07

> > My main question, I guess, is this: Is there any way that I can use

[#133094] ncurses ruby and utf-8 — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...>

hello group,

12 messages 2005/03/07

[#133255] Tiny URLs — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>

Informal poll: Are there others as leery as I am of tinyurl and similar

33 messages 2005/03/10

[#133265] ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>

14 messages 2005/03/10
[#133345] Re: ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Ian Macdonald <ian@...> 2005/03/11

On Thu 10 Mar 2005 at 20:46:51 +0900, Dick Davies wrote:

[#133366] Re: ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...> 2005/03/11

* Ian Macdonald <ian@caliban.org> [0345 06:45]:

[#133313] Gateway broken? — "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Berger@...>

Hi all,

18 messages 2005/03/10
[#133314] Re: Gateway broken? — "ES" <ruby-ml@...> 2005/03/10

On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said:

[#133317] Re: Gateway broken? — Dennis Oelkers <dennis@...> 2005/03/10

Hey folks,

[#133336] Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

This is an informal announcement of a possible position for

23 messages 2005/03/11
[#133338] Re: [JOB] Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...> 2005/03/11

On Mar 10, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Joel VanderWerf wrote:

[#133382] Redesign 2005 Blog — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

The vit-core team (assigned to redesign ruby-lang.org) has unveiled our

30 messages 2005/03/11
[#133491] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005 Blog — "Josef 'Jupp' Schugt" <jupp@...> 2005/03/13

why the lucky stiff wrote:

[#133426] Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

Seattle.rb will be hosting a RubyGems cleanup and enhancement codefest!

46 messages 2005/03/12
[#133532] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/14

Eric Hodel wrote:

[#133542] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — vruz <horacio.lopez@...> 2005/03/14

> Is there any chance you could start this process a little bit? Choose

[#133548] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/03/15

On Mar 14, 2005, at 5:18 PM, vruz wrote:

[#133432] Help a newbie pick a gui tool kit — Dennis Roberts <denrober@...>

So I am still learning Ruby. I am also learning C. I just did

39 messages 2005/03/12

[#133483] how do you duck-type something to String, so String believes you? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

I can give something a #to_str, which should be an indication that it is

11 messages 2005/03/13

[#133511] RubyURL.com — Robby Russell <robby@...>

I felt like giving myself a small project to get my feet a bit more wet

27 messages 2005/03/14

[#133550] Getting Started with Orbjson tutorial — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>

I wrote a tutorial on using the Orbjson library to create Web

12 messages 2005/03/15
[#133553] Re: [ANN] Getting Started with Orbjson tutorial — vruz <horacio.lopez@...> 2005/03/15

> I wrote a tutorial on using the Orbjson library to create Web

[#133611] class variables and class instance variable? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello.

20 messages 2005/03/15

[#133614] n body problem — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

Here's a first pass at the n body problem in the shootout - I've tried

23 messages 2005/03/15

[#133616] will '@@' disapear in ruby2? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello there!

13 messages 2005/03/15

[#133688] eval/binding question — Stefan Kaes <skaes@...>

I tried to create local variables from a name=>value hash passed as a

23 messages 2005/03/15
[#133703] Re: eval/binding question — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/15

Hi,

[#133719] Re: eval/binding question — Stefan Kaes <skaes@...> 2005/03/15

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#133748] FAQ for comp.lang.ruby — hal9000@...

RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2004-10-16)

15 messages 2005/03/15

[#133785] Examples for racc? — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>

Hey all,

15 messages 2005/03/15

[#133852] Fibonacci Benchmark Correction — jzakiya@...

The Great Computer Language Shootout Benchmarks

26 messages 2005/03/16

[#133875] Symbol vs String — Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2005/03/16

[#133909] bug? ruby doesn't flush stdio on exit! — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

This can't be a feature... stdio should flush on exit!

11 messages 2005/03/17

[#133959] new language shootout — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...>

Hi, I have been thinking a bit on creating a new language shootout. All

11 messages 2005/03/17

[#133981] Maximum stack depth — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...>

It would be useful to have a Ruby command-line option to specify a

27 messages 2005/03/17

[#133999] Free Rails hosting? — Aquila <braempje@...>

I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather try Rails.

23 messages 2005/03/17

[#134022] encapsulating rubygems so that my users don't need to be aware of it — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org>

Hi!

9 messages 2005/03/17

[#134074] Crobjob problem with ruby script. — "andreas.cahen@..." <andreas.cahen@...>

Hi!

19 messages 2005/03/18

[#134078] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E02 - Nitro, a Ruby Based WebFramework

75 messages 2005/03/18
[#134092] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/03/18

Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#136612] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org> 2005/04/03

On 2005-04-03, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#136628] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/03

Csaba Henk wrote:

[#136631] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Saynatkari <ruby-ml@...> 2005/04/03

[#136640] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/03

Saynatkari wrote:

[#136702] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org> 2005/04/04

On 2005-04-04, Robert Klemme <bob.news@gmx.net> wrote:

[#136713] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/04

Csaba Henk wrote:

[#134080] Texas Hold'Em (#24) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

17 messages 2005/03/18

[#134103] Iterating through a string and removing leading characters — Randy Kramer <rhkramer@...>

This is going to seem a little strange (for a number of reasons I might

44 messages 2005/03/18

[#134158] Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Paul wrote an article about his recommendations for current

93 messages 2005/03/19
[#134244] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:

[#134248] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — "Florian Frank" <flori@...> 2005/03/19

Martin DeMello wrote:

[#134250] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/19

Hi --

[#134304] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/20

David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:

[#134270] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/19

Hi,

[#134169] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@...> 2005/03/19

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:54:41 +0900, Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134182] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@gmail.com> writes:

[#134218] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134221] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@...> 2005/03/19

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:35:50 +0900, Navindra Umanee

[#134227] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134232] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134234] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134236] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134237] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134242] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134200] strip and its evil brother strip! — Aquila <braempje@...>

Possibly a stupid question: why does strip! of a string with a single

37 messages 2005/03/19
[#134203] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/03/19

Aquila wrote:

[#134207] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2005/03/19

Glenn Parker wrote:

[#134220] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/03/19

Florian Gross wrote:

[#134223] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2005/03/19

Glenn Parker wrote:

[#134210] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Jason Sweat <jason.sweat@...> 2005/03/19

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:07:15 +0900, Glenn Parker

[#134213] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/19

Hi --

[#134215] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/19

I ranted about this very behavior 2 days ago. I'm willing to do an RCR

[#134262] RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...>

I know that it's not standard policy to announce RCRs on ruby-talk,

90 messages 2005/03/19
[#134276] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/19

For those interested in an alternative, I just put this up on the RCR:

[#134577] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/22

Hi,

[#134594] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/22

Yes, I am liking the proposal less and less as time goes on. And I'm

[#134697] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/22

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#134370] can WEBrick bind to port 0, and then tell me what port was allocated? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

I don't want to use a hard-coded port number, I want it to bind to

12 messages 2005/03/20

[#134413] Ruby, brother of VB? — "Mike Cox" <mikecoxlinux@...>

Hi. I am researching a language to switch to after Microsoft EOL'd classic

16 messages 2005/03/21

[#134481] FMOD or other sound libraries...anyone? — david@... (David Casal)

I'm looking for a good Ruby sound library...

19 messages 2005/03/21

[#134517] Support for 10x Productivity Increase with Rails! — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

I got a lot of flack for what I wrote in my ONLamp.com article on Rails when

27 messages 2005/03/21

[#134555] Ruby newbie: 3 week learning project — "Al Abut - alabut.com" <alabut@...>

Hi all, I'm (very) new to Ruby and I'm blogging out every day of a 3

16 messages 2005/03/21

[#134642] Getting the word to conventional programmers — claird@... (Cameron Laird)

*DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in

25 messages 2005/03/22

[#134660] RubyConf 2005 Preregistration now open! — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

17 messages 2005/03/22

[#134710] Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — "Arfin" <arfinmail@...>

Is there some kind of class to format numbers? Something to let you

75 messages 2005/03/22
[#134718] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/22

Hi --

[#134724] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...> 2005/03/22

> I try to follow the style that is predominant in the Ruby parts of the

[#134730] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/03/22

On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:24 PM, Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#134747] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/03/23

* James Edward Gray II (Mar 22, 2005 23:50):

[#134736] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? [OT] tabs vs. spaces — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/22

Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#134740] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? [OT] tabs vs. spaces — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/22

Quoting bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com, on Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 08:17:53AM +0900:

[#134866] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

Since you were a very young rabbit in little cotton pants, Dwemthy's

17 messages 2005/03/23
[#134885] Re: [ANN] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2005/03/23

In article <50756767050323100730f7f739@mail.gmail.com>,

[#134892] Re: [ANN] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — Patrick Hurley <phurley@...> 2005/03/23

> No doubt _why has put some magic in DwemthysArray that we're missing.

[#134896] Ruby article on DevSource — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

FWIW, DevSource.com (previously mentioned here) now has

13 messages 2005/03/23

[#134990] Syntax 0.7.0 — Jamis Buck <jamis@37signals.com>

Syntax is a pure-Ruby framework for doing lexical analysis (and, in

23 messages 2005/03/24
[#135020] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/24

Quoting jamis@37signals.com, on Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 02:54:20PM +0900:

[#135038] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/03/24

Sam Roberts ha scritto:

[#135042] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/24

Quoting jamis@37signals.com, on Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 01:27:37AM +0900:

[#135013] Syntax for gem list file when hosting own rubygems repository — James Britt <james_b@...>

Are there online docs for creating the YAML file needed when

10 messages 2005/03/24

[#135092] OO database concepts... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

I've been thinking about OO databases -- never having really

24 messages 2005/03/25

[#135147] A Poll — "jeem" <jeem.hughes@...>

Hello group. Please take a minute to satisfy my idle curiousity. I'll

72 messages 2005/03/25

[#135168] Hash::MixIn and Python style Object#dict — Florian Gross <flgr@...>

Moin.

17 messages 2005/03/25
[#135179] Re: Hash::MixIn and Python style Object#dict — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/03/25

Florian Gross ha scritto:

[#135200] English Numerals (#25) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

22 messages 2005/03/25

[#135236] Rake 0.5.0 Release — Jim Weirich <jim@...>

= Rake 0.5.0 Released

14 messages 2005/03/25

[#135253] comment on today's poll and more questions — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

15 messages 2005/03/26

[#135265] Evaluator for a mini-Ruby in Haskell — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...>

Maybe I need to rethink my view of Haskell after all:

17 messages 2005/03/26

[#135372] RubyScript2Exe 0.3.3 — "Erik Veenstra" <pan@...>

17 messages 2005/03/26

[#135393] ! haphazard — bertrandmuscle@...

is ! haphazardly implemented for a reason?

18 messages 2005/03/27
[#135395] Re: ! haphazard — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/27

Tell us what you mean by 'haphazardly' ?

[#135399] Re: ! haphazard — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/03/27

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:47:15 +0900, Daniel Amelang

[#135400] Re: ! haphazard — bertrandmuscle@... 2005/03/27

>>Tell us what you mean by 'haphazardly' ?

[#135404] Re: ! haphazard — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/27

Gotcha. Well, I can tell you firsthand about the controversies of the

[#135480] Ruby Weekly News 21st - 27th March 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)

http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20050327.html

17 messages 2005/03/28
[#135826] Re: Ruby Weekly News 21st - 27th March 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland) 2005/03/30

In article <slrnd4ffpm.98l.timsuth@europa.zone>, Tim Sutherland wrote:

[#135484] Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "Peter C. Verhage" <usenet2@...>

Hi,

36 messages 2005/03/28
[#135554] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "B. K. Oxley (binkley)" <binkley@...> 2005/03/28

Lothar Scholz wrote:

[#135485] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "Neville Burnell" <Neville.Burnell@...>

I'm using jedit [www.jedit.org]

26 messages 2005/03/28
[#135519] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — Chris Morris <the.chrismo@...> 2005/03/28

> I'm using jedit [www.jedit.org ]

[#135615] Re: Java for Rubyists — "Albert Chou" <achou@...>

I'm not anything like a Java expert, but I do refer to Bruce Eckel's

18 messages 2005/03/29
[#135623] Re: Java for Rubyists — Tom Willis <tom.willis@...> 2005/03/29

I second Eckel

[#135686] Re: Java for Rubyists — Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@...> 2005/03/29

> I fell the original posters pain. My work world is filled with long

[#135699] FreeBSD Rubyists? Do Remote Objects work for you? — Miles Keaton <mileskeaton@...>

Looking for any Ruby users on FreeBSD.

11 messages 2005/03/29

[#135708] attr :<symbol>? — Luke Renn <goseigen@...>

What is the proper term for things like attr :<id> and belongs_to

18 messages 2005/03/29

[#135770] Open letter to anyone developing a Ruby IDE — "Adelle Hartley" <adelle@...>

It has been said that features like "intellisense" or "autocomplete" are

25 messages 2005/03/30
[#135778] Re: Open letter to anyone developing a Ruby IDE — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/03/30

Hello Adelle,

[#135784] Blah-Blah List (and why line counts are a bad metric) — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>

So, I did a search for Ruby on Rails today, and my interest was piqued

13 messages 2005/03/30

[#135806] - Time for "comp.lang.ruby.announce" ? — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

I've noticed a high ammount of announcements ("[ANN]") on this group.

21 messages 2005/03/30

[#135820] Poor efficency of Ruby... — JZ <spamerom@...>

I have prior experiency with php and recently pythonic application servers

48 messages 2005/03/30

[#135841] look-behind regexp ? — Shajith <demerzel@...>

Hi!

14 messages 2005/03/30

[#135859] Defining a Class Accessor — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

I was playing around with an idea in another thread and ran into a

13 messages 2005/03/30

[#135863] Respect and Disappointment — Curt Hibbs <curt@...>

I've finally started a blog. I really didn't want to go public with it

148 messages 2005/03/30
[#136024] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Josef Pospisil <perails@...> 2005/03/31

Hello Curt,

[#136033] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Bill Atkins <batkins57@...> 2005/03/31

Ridiculous. You're saying Rails (I'm assuming that's what you mean by

[#136048] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/03/31

My .02 cents:

[#136087] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 6:17 AM, Francis Hwang <sera@fhwang.net> wrote:

[#136122] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/31

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#136127] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 12:11 PM, Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> wrote:

[#136135] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/03/31

* Austin Ziegler (Mar 31, 2005 19:30):

[#136159] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 1:01 PM, Nikolai Weibull

[#136147] Re: Respect and Disappointment — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...> 2005/03/31

> I've finally started a blog. I really didn't want to go public with it

[#136171] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Stephen Kellett <snail@...> 2005/03/31

In message <6c87a002d5858216dd00a4abe83e032d@loudthinking.com>, David

[#136006] Complete beginner in programming — "Roger Grosswiler" <roger@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2005/03/31

Re: Ruby Weekly News 7th - 13th March 2005

From: "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>
Date: 2005-03-15 15:09:28 UTC
List: ruby-talk #133691
This is awesome, Tim. I don't know how you find the time, but *please* keep
up the good work!

Curt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Sutherland [mailto:timsuth@ihug.co.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:58 AM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: Ruby Weekly News 7th - 13th March 2005
> Importance: High
>
>
> http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20050313.html
>
>    Ruby Weekly News 7th - 13th March 2005
>    --------------------------------------
>
>    Ruby Weekly News is a summary of the week's activity on the ruby-talk
>    mailing list / the comp.lang.ruby newsgroup, brought to you by Tim
>    Sutherland.
>
>    Special thanks this week goes to Paul van Tilburg, who
> converted several
>    weeks of newsletters from RubyGarden format to Hobix. This
> provided nice
>    syndication with RSS and Atom. I liked his work so much that I
> decided to
>    save him the trouble of doing the conversion every week and
> just use Hobix
>    myself! I intend to translate the old newsletters into this format as
>    well.
>
>    I'm interested in feedback on the new layout and functionality.
>
> Articles and Announcements
> --------------------------
>
>      * Ruby Central 2005 Codefest Grant recipients
>      ---------------------------------------------
>
>        David A. Black announced that there were five recipients
> of the first
>        Ruby Central Codefest Grant program.
>
>        They each receive up to US$500, to be used for hosting "codefests",
>        where groups of developers meet up at the same physical location to
>        hack.
>
>          1. Ruby Displaytag (Dave Tiu)
>          2. Ruby/AGG and Ruby/View (Andrey Melnik)
>          3. Gambit (James Edward Gray II)
>          4. Ruby Bindings to Lucene Search Engine (Brian McCallister)
>          5. RubyGems cleanup and enhancement (Ryan Davis)
>
>      * Who wants to learn Ruby with me?
>      ----------------------------------
>
>        Andreas Sprotte is looking for a partner to write a RubyCocoa
>        application for the Mac.
>
>        "I want to learn about the model view controller pattern,
>        object-orientation, basic networking and accessing a database. We'd
>        email us back and forth and would collaborate via
> SubEthaEdit once a
>        week.
>
>        The project should be something that could be completed in about 40
>        hours, maybe spread about 4 to 6 weeks."
>
>      * Ruby Developers in Tokyo, Japan
>      ---------------------------------
>
>        Zev Blut posted a job announcement in the form of a Ruby program.
>        Several people posted patches and comments. Zev followed up with
>        "Thanks for all the comments and improvements to the coded
> request for
>        Ruby developers! It was certainly more fun than writing a
> formal job
>        posting. Hopefully, I will get a few resumes in my mailbox..."
>
>      * SIGHTING: Ruby article in Dr. Dobb's
>      --------------------------------------
>
>        Kaspar Schiess spotted an article in the February 2005 issue of Dr.
>        Dobbs called "Amazon.com - Web Services & Ruby". It was
> written by Ian
>        Macdonald. Kaspar reports "The article is well written and
> makes you
>        want to try out the library." (Registration required to
> view article.)
>
> Quote of the Week
> -----------------
>
>    We're breaking the rules here - but this is Ruby-land, so
> that's okay. The
>    quote this week isn't from the ruby-talk mailing list, it's from
>    RedHanded, a blog run by why the lucky stiff. (With some other
>    contributors from time to time.)
>
>    _why had just observed the "haha" count between the Python and
> Ruby lists.
>
>    In response, Wonko the semi-successful magician saw fit to declare
>
>      "It's an established scientific fact that Ruby programmers laugh five
>      times more per day than Python programmers, and thirty times
> more than
>      Java programmers. And unlike the mad half-a-laugh-per-week C++ crowd,
>      it's not all evil cackling laughs, either."
>
> Threads
> -------
>
>    Interesting threads this week included:
>
>   [Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement]
>   ---------------------------------------------------
>
>    Eric Hodel announced that the Seattle.rb users' group will host the
>    RubyGems codefest. "We would like to solicit your ideas on
> what you want
>    to see cleaned up or enhanced in RubyGems." "For our Codefest we do not
>    plan on making large changes to the way RubyGems works. One
> thing we would
>    like to focus on is making the gem command more friendly when
> you hit ^C,
>    for example."
>
>    gabriele renzi suggested "One little thing I'd appreciate is
> some kind of
>    feedback for the user like a progress bar both in downloading and
>    upgrading cache."
>
>    Curt Hibbs thought a GUI front-end is needed, but that it was
> probably too
>    much work for a codefest. "What I want is something like a
> news reader, or
>    windows file explorer. A desktop GUI with a tree control on
> the left and a
>    detail panel of sorts on the right. With the ability to mount
> and browse
>    multiple repositories as well as your installed gems."
>
>    Richard Lyman had created a mockup GUI front-end at one stage,
> but nothing
>    happened after that. He will have more time at the end of
> April, so may do
>    work on it then.
>
>    Jim Freeze made a different request in another thread. "I like the
>    versioning of libraries, but I particularly like the versioning of
>    applications."
>
>  $ rake --version
>  rake, version 0.4.15
>  $ rake _0.4.13_ --version
>  rake, version 0.4.13
>
>    Jim has a script which launches the application, and would
> like the user
>    to be able to specify which version was run. Perhaps "setenv
>    RUBYGEMS_USE_APP_VERSION_xyz_app 1".
>
>   [Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area]
>   ----------------------------------
>
>    Joel VanderWerf posted a possible job position for a Ruby
> programmer. The
>    requirements included "Ruby: 2 years, responsible for at least
> one project
>    of >10K lines."
>
>    why the lucky stiff noted "I've always held to the old adage: If you've
>    written 10K lines of Ruby code, then you're using it wrong."
>
>    Dave Burt calculated the number of lines in some of the major Ruby
>    libraries and applications. Rails is 2K lines, rdoc is 16K and
> rexml 9K.
>    "So the successful applicant will have written one of the (top
> 5?) largest
>    Ruby projects in existence."
>
>    David Heinemeier Hansson (the main author of Rails) agreed with these
>    sentiments, saying "I, for one, wouldn't fit the description
> above. Number
>    of years is a utter lackluster indicator for job performance. Rewarding
>    the use of 10K lines in Ruby is also fairly questionable."
>
>    Joel defended the requirement, explaining "The app needs to
> interact with
>    3rd party software that has its own highly complex (and often poorly
>    designed) input/output system. It needs to do a large variety of
>    geometrical calculations (not difficult ones). The programmer
> for this job
>    needs to be comfortable with managing a large number of ugly
> details. That
>    skill is distinct (though of course not exclusive) from
> writing a lovely
>    little ruby library."
>
>   [Watir needs a Win32GUI library]
>   --------------------------------
>
>    Bret Pettichord: "We've seen growing enthusiasm for Watir, a
> web-testing
>    library that is good enough that it is convincing people to learn Ruby
>    just so that they can use it." He gave a number of quotes from
> satisfied
>    users.
>
>    Watir controls Internet Explorer via the COM interface, but is running
>    into some limits with that interface. "I'm writing to ask for help. The
>    biggest problem with Watir is its support for various dialogs. These
>    dialogs appear when you use a browser; for example, a login dialog or a
>    security dialog or a javascript dialog. Watir mostly works by accessing
>    the DOM via IE's COM interface. But there is no COM/DOM
> interface to these
>    dialogs."
>
>    Some work has been done using Win32 calls, but Bret thinks it would be
>    better to use a general Win32 GUI testing library that already
> exists. Any
>    suggestions?
>
>   [what about a rails-based gforge like?]
>   ---------------------------------------
>
>    Lionel Thiry asked "isn't there a need for a rails-based gforge like
>    framework?". GForge is a PHP application that provides support for
>    collaborative software development, with forums, mailing
> lists, CVS, bug
>    tracking etc. It is used by Rubyforge.
>
>    gabriele renzi thought that it was quite a complex project,
> and rewriting
>    it in Rails wouldn't gain you much. Lionel countered this by
> quoting the
>    claim from Rails enthusiasts that web applications can be
> developed up to
>    ten times faster with Rails. (Although this claim was actually
> originally
>    made in comparison to Java frameworks, not PHP ones.)
>
>    Martin DeMello felt that GForge was not primarily a web application -
>    "There are a lot of complex details on the server side that
> would have to
>    be redone for very little gain."
>
>   [need for a class_attr methods collection]
>   ------------------------------------------
>
>    Lionel Thiry suggested class_attr methods, similar to attr_reader,
>    attr_writer, attr_accessor but for class instance variables.
>
>    class MyClass
>        @a = "value"
>        class_attr_reader :a
>    end
>    puts Test.a # it doesn't work
>
>    ts gave the following:
>
>    class MyClass
>        @a = "value"
>        class << self
>            attr_reader :a
>        end
>    end
>
>    ts also reminded Lionel not to confuse "class instance
> variable (i.e. @a
>    in your example) and class variables (i.e. @@a)".
>
>   [Great Computer Language Shootout]
>   ----------------------------------
>
>    Isaac noted that Ruby is currently missing about a dozen
> programs from the
>    Great Computer Language Shootout (a set of benchmarks for many
> programming
>    language implementations).
>
>    "If you have a few moments please contribute stylish Ruby programs."
>
>   [nonblock extension for win32?]
>   -------------------------------
>
>    Bill Kelly recalled reading about an issue with blocking IO on Windows,
>    and thought that someone had announced a library for Windows
> that provided
>    non-blocking support. Where could he find this library?
>
>    "One of my applications has an unusable feature on windows at present,
>    because I need a nonblocking way to read from a pipe returned from
>    popen(). Is there any nonblocking way to accomplish this in
> win32 ruby?"
>
>    Daniel Berger explained that the discussion had been about a
> patch to the
>    Ruby interpreter to fix problems with blocking sockets, not a separate
>    library. The patch has been included in CVS. As far as popen()
> goes, the
>    win32-pipe library provides a replacement that will work asynchronously
>    (although the API is different).
>
>    Bill said that he'd probably switch to using sockets so his code was
>    portable.
>
>   [Redesign 2005 Blog]
>   --------------------
>
>    why the lucky stiff linked to the Redesign 2005 Blog. It presents two
>    mockups of a new ruby-lang.org website. These were prepared by the
>    vit-core team.
>
>    Feedback should be posted to the blog.
>
>   [ODBC OG/ActiveRecords]
>   -----------------------
>
>    Luke Galea wanted to use Microsoft Access and Sybase Anywhere databases
>    from Ruby. There aren't any Ruby drivers for these at the
> moment, so he's
>    using Ruby-ODBC. "BUT: I would like to use a nice object-relational
>    library like ActiveRecord or OG.. Has anyone ever had any success using
>    either over ODBC?"
>
>    David Heinemeier Hansson warned that "Generic ODBC adapters are
>    problematic because the databases underneath might use different
>    strategies for stuff like auto-incremented columns. A Access or Sybase
>    adapter that goes through ODBC is certainly possible. I know
> that shashank
>    and a few others were looking into that for Active Record at
> some point."
>
>    Kirk Haines said that the Kansas ORM (Object Relational
> Mapper) should be
>    able to use ODBC connectios. "Kansas, as an ORM, has been
>    feature-incomplete, but stable for many months, and I use it
> on probably
>    20 different production applications. It used DBI for simplicity and
>    coverage, making it lightweight."
>
>   [Quoted Printable (#23)]
>   ------------------------
>
>    James Edward Gray II set out this week's Ruby Quiz. The task
> is to write a
>    filter that handles the "quoted printable" encoding. (This encoding is
>    primarily used in email.)
>
>    For example, the character "<" becomes "=3C".
>
>   [Roman Numerals (#22)]
>   ----------------------
>
>    James also summarised last week's quiz, to write a convertor
> between Roman
>    and Arabic numerals.
>
>    One interesting technique was used by Dave Burt. He defined
>    Object.const_missing so that constants like IX would automatically be
>    converted into RomanNumeral objects.
>
>    "My thanks go out to friends and Romans alike."
>
>   [Malformed UTF-8?]
>   ------------------
>
>    Ian Macdonald had recently been getting ArgumentError exceptions from a
>    calendar library. The error messages states that the calendar event
>    contains malforned UTF-8. Ian gave an example of text that
> gets rejected
>    by String#unpack("U*").
>
>    Simon Strandgaard pointed out the error in the text - it was indeed
>    invalid UTF-8.
>
>    Nikolai Weibull posted a program that checks whether text is properly
>    formed UTF-8. Unlike String#unpack, this program gives the
> actual position
>    of the first invalid character.
>
>   [YAML obj merging]
>   ------------------
>
>    gga wanted to merge two Hash objects in a `recursive' way, e.g.
>
>  irb> a = { 'A' => { 'A1' => 'a' } }
>  irb> b = { 'A' => { 'B1' => 'b' } }
>  irb> b.mix(a) # ficticious method
>  {"A"=>{"A1"=>"a", "B1" => 'b' }}
>
>    Trans said that Ruby Facets provides a weave method which
> "does what you
>    wish and a little more".
>
>   [Is iterating in lock-step possible?]
>   -------------------------------------
>
>    This thread considered external vs internal iteration.
>
>  # External
>  while g.next?; foo(g.next); end
>
>  # Internal
>  g.each { |x| foo(x) }
>
>    The Generator class can be used to convert internal iterators into
>    external ones, but it is slow. (1000 times slower according to William
>    Morgan's benchmarks.)
>
>    Roshan James wanted to iterate over two Enumerable in parallel, without
>    first converting each into an Array. Enumerable#zip can be used for
>    parallel iteration, but it converts its arguments into Arrays.
>
>    ts gave the example of
>
>  %w(eins zwei drei).zip([1,2,3]) {|a, b| puts "#{a} #{b}" }
>
>    It was felt that Generator was indeed the right way to go. If
> it was too
>    slow then the objects being iterated over could be changed to have an
>    external iterator interface.
>
>   [DRb for dummies !]
>   -------------------
>
>    Svend-Erik Kj誡 Madsen had a problem using the ACL
> (access-control list)
>    class with drb (distributed Ruby). The solution was as simple
> as require
>    'drb/acl', but the thread gives us a good excuse to demonstrate ACL.
>
>    Quoting part of Svend-Erik's code, with the extra require,
>
>  require 'drb'
>  require 'drb/acl'
>
>  acl = ACL.new( %w[deny all
>    allow 192.168.1.*
>    allow localhost ] )
>
>  DRb.install_acl(acl)
>
>   [Simple extension question]
>   ---------------------------
>
>    Mark Probert asked what the simplest way of clearing an Array
> from C was,
>    i.e. the C equivalent of foo.clear.
>
>    Daniel Berger replied: rb_ary_clear(foo).
>
>    "Tricky, eh? :-P For a complete list of methods, take a look
> at intern.h."
>
>   [Encoding a multipart/form-data for posting via HTTP]
>   -----------------------------------------------------
>
>    Dema announced "After googling around (with no luck) for a while for a
>    function that would encode a hash into a multipart/form-data
> to be sent to
>    a HTTP server via POST, I decided to read the RFC and write my own." It
>    does not yet handle complex cases.
>
>    Dave Burt thought this should be in Net::HTTP::Post.
>
> New Releases
> ------------
>
>      * Fast Change Set Tool
>
>        Zed A. Shaw announced the first release of a revision control tool
>        he's been working on. FastCST allows you to create full changesets
>        between two directories and apply them.
>
>      * GeoIP.rb
>
>        Clifford Heath translated some of the GeoIP C library into
> Ruby. GeoIP
>        is "Geographic database by IP address" and tells you which
> country the
>        user of an IP address is probably in.
>
>      * Rubilicious 0.1.4
>
>        Paul Duncan improved Rubilicious, a Ruby interface to the social
>        bookmarking site del.icio.us. #delete and #update are now
> supported,
>        and #all is much more efficient.
>
>      * Imlib2-Ruby 0.5.0
>
>        Paul Duncan also released his latest bindings to the Imlib2 image
>        processing library. Packaging and documentation were
> improved and an
>        issue that came up when using Imlib2-Ruby with Rails was resolved.
>
>      * Amrita2-1.9.3
>
>        Taku Nakajima issued forth a new version of Amrita2, an XHTML/XML
>        templating library. Support for rich client-side
> Javascript interfaces
>        has been added - Amrita2 now generates both Ruby and
> Javascript code
>        from the template.
>
>      * Irb enhancements
>
>        Cs. Henk made some enhancements to irb, including bash-style
>        multi-line editing and context-sensitive history completion. These
>        features were met with great enthusiasm.
>
>      * priority queue using RBTree
>
>        Joel VanderWerf "patched" together a PriorityQueue implementation
>        using Queue and RBTree (a Ruby red-black tree
> implementation). He also
>        thought that RBTree should be part of the standard Ruby
> distribution,
>        and a couple of people concurred.
>
>      * TkRTTimer class
>
>        This is not exactly a "new release", since Ruby/Tk is part of the
>        standard distribution, however: Hidetoshi NAGAI announced
> the addition
>        of the TkRTTimer class to Ruby/Tk. It can be used in place
> of TkTimer
>        and provides something that is closer to a realtime timer.
>
>      * new eric3 snapshot
>
>        Detlev Offenbach announced a new snapshot of eric3, an IDE that
>        supports Ruby. A Ruby debugger was added.
>
>      * Kwartz-ruby 2.0.0-beta3 - a template system for Ruby, PHP, and Java
>
>        kwatch enhanced his multi-language templating system. It
> now includes
>        include support.
>
>      * Nitro + Og 0.12.0
>
>        George Moschovitis delivered "A careful blend of new features and
>        subtle improvements to the existing infrastructure." Nitro is a web
>        application framework, while Og is an object-relational mapper.
>
>        Nitro now allows action meta-data. This is used for
> example to provide
>        routing (rewrite) rules. The templating engine can also now be used
>        standalone from the rest of the system.
>
>        A new Og feature is automatic generation of finders for all
>        properties.
>
>      * Rails 0.10.1: FCGI stability, WS generator, tons of fixes
>
>        David Heinemeier Hansson announced the latest version of
> the Rails web
>        application framework. "Action Web Service has seen the most
>        interesting improvements feature-wise with a new generator
> and tie-ins
>        with the testing setup." XML-RPC support has been improved.
>
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