[#132675] Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org>

Explaine this to me please:

22 messages 2005/03/02
[#132676] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Javier Valencia wrote:

[#132677] Re: Modules and methods — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/02

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:48:35 +0900, Javier Valencia <jvalencia@log01.org> wrote:

[#132678] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Brian Schrer wrote:

[#132679] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Javier Valencia wrote:

[#132682] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Just another example:

[#132683] Re: Modules and methods — ts <decoux@...> 2005/03/02

>>>>> "J" == Javier Valencia <jvalencia@log01.org> writes:

[#132685] Re: Modules and methods — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/02

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:02 +0900, ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:

[#132686] Re: Modules and methods — ts <decoux@...> 2005/03/02

>>>>> "B" == Brian Schr=F6der?= <ISO-8859-1> writes:

[#132689] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

ts wrote:

[#132703] A wish: Simple database — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Hi, all...

35 messages 2005/03/02

[#132778] post inc problem — Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2005/03/03
[#132780] Re: post inc problem — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/03

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:14:44 +0900, Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@chello.hu> wrote:

[#132783] RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

Below, I posting the entire text of this blog entry:

96 messages 2005/03/03
[#132784] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132786] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Alexander Kellett <ruby-lists@...> 2005/03/03

On Mar 3, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132794] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/03/03

[#132823] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/03/03

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:21:03 +0900, Alexander Kellett

[#132845] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

Lyle Johnson wrote:

[#132859] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/04

Hi,

[#132901] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — leon breedt <bitserf@...> 2005/03/04

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:45:16 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto

[#132821] Re: RAA Status & b — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132822] Re: RAA Status & b — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

James Britt wrote:

[#132826] Re: RAA Status & b — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132827] Re: RAA Status & b — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/03

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 05:02:52 +0900, Ben Giddings

[#132830] Re: RAA Status & b — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2005/03/03

[#132881] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

Sam Roberts [mailto:sroberts@uniserve.com] wrote:

25 messages 2005/03/04
[#132883] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting botp@delmonte-phil.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:21:01PM +0900:

[#132884] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2005/03/04

[#132889] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting rich@infoether.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:47:34PM +0900:

[#132894] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2005/03/04

[#132899] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting rich@infoether.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:11:16PM +0900:

[#132913] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/04

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:37:28 +0900, Sam Roberts

[#132925] Roman Numerals (#22) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

24 messages 2005/03/04

[#132989] building rdocs for Rake — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

11 messages 2005/03/05

[#133002] ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — Minero Aoki <aamine@...>

Hi all,

29 messages 2005/03/06
[#133004] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/06

Hi --

[#133006] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/06

Hi,

[#133010] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/06

Hi --

[#133021] Noob:Objects as key in hash — Tom Willis <tom.willis@...>

Hi all,

14 messages 2005/03/06

[#133058] WEBrick for a local application? — Jeremy Bear <jeremy.bear@...>

Hello!

17 messages 2005/03/07
[#133060] Re: WEBrick for a local application? — Joao Pedrosa <joaopedrosa@...> 2005/03/07

Hi,

[#133063] Re: WEBrick for a local application? — Jeremy Bear <jeremy.bear@...> 2005/03/07

> > My main question, I guess, is this: Is there any way that I can use

[#133094] ncurses ruby and utf-8 — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...>

hello group,

12 messages 2005/03/07

[#133255] Tiny URLs — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>

Informal poll: Are there others as leery as I am of tinyurl and similar

33 messages 2005/03/10

[#133265] ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>

14 messages 2005/03/10
[#133345] Re: ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Ian Macdonald <ian@...> 2005/03/11

On Thu 10 Mar 2005 at 20:46:51 +0900, Dick Davies wrote:

[#133366] Re: ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...> 2005/03/11

* Ian Macdonald <ian@caliban.org> [0345 06:45]:

[#133313] Gateway broken? — "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Berger@...>

Hi all,

18 messages 2005/03/10
[#133314] Re: Gateway broken? — "ES" <ruby-ml@...> 2005/03/10

On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said:

[#133317] Re: Gateway broken? — Dennis Oelkers <dennis@...> 2005/03/10

Hey folks,

[#133336] Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

This is an informal announcement of a possible position for

23 messages 2005/03/11
[#133338] Re: [JOB] Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...> 2005/03/11

On Mar 10, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Joel VanderWerf wrote:

[#133382] Redesign 2005 Blog — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

The vit-core team (assigned to redesign ruby-lang.org) has unveiled our

30 messages 2005/03/11
[#133491] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005 Blog — "Josef 'Jupp' Schugt" <jupp@...> 2005/03/13

why the lucky stiff wrote:

[#133426] Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

Seattle.rb will be hosting a RubyGems cleanup and enhancement codefest!

46 messages 2005/03/12
[#133532] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/14

Eric Hodel wrote:

[#133542] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — vruz <horacio.lopez@...> 2005/03/14

> Is there any chance you could start this process a little bit? Choose

[#133548] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/03/15

On Mar 14, 2005, at 5:18 PM, vruz wrote:

[#133432] Help a newbie pick a gui tool kit — Dennis Roberts <denrober@...>

So I am still learning Ruby. I am also learning C. I just did

39 messages 2005/03/12

[#133483] how do you duck-type something to String, so String believes you? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

I can give something a #to_str, which should be an indication that it is

11 messages 2005/03/13

[#133511] RubyURL.com — Robby Russell <robby@...>

I felt like giving myself a small project to get my feet a bit more wet

27 messages 2005/03/14

[#133550] Getting Started with Orbjson tutorial — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>

I wrote a tutorial on using the Orbjson library to create Web

12 messages 2005/03/15
[#133553] Re: [ANN] Getting Started with Orbjson tutorial — vruz <horacio.lopez@...> 2005/03/15

> I wrote a tutorial on using the Orbjson library to create Web

[#133611] class variables and class instance variable? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello.

20 messages 2005/03/15

[#133614] n body problem — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

Here's a first pass at the n body problem in the shootout - I've tried

23 messages 2005/03/15

[#133616] will '@@' disapear in ruby2? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello there!

13 messages 2005/03/15

[#133688] eval/binding question — Stefan Kaes <skaes@...>

I tried to create local variables from a name=>value hash passed as a

23 messages 2005/03/15
[#133703] Re: eval/binding question — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/15

Hi,

[#133719] Re: eval/binding question — Stefan Kaes <skaes@...> 2005/03/15

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#133748] FAQ for comp.lang.ruby — hal9000@...

RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2004-10-16)

15 messages 2005/03/15

[#133785] Examples for racc? — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>

Hey all,

15 messages 2005/03/15

[#133852] Fibonacci Benchmark Correction — jzakiya@...

The Great Computer Language Shootout Benchmarks

26 messages 2005/03/16

[#133875] Symbol vs String — Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2005/03/16

[#133909] bug? ruby doesn't flush stdio on exit! — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

This can't be a feature... stdio should flush on exit!

11 messages 2005/03/17

[#133959] new language shootout — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...>

Hi, I have been thinking a bit on creating a new language shootout. All

11 messages 2005/03/17

[#133981] Maximum stack depth — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...>

It would be useful to have a Ruby command-line option to specify a

27 messages 2005/03/17

[#133999] Free Rails hosting? — Aquila <braempje@...>

I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather try Rails.

23 messages 2005/03/17

[#134022] encapsulating rubygems so that my users don't need to be aware of it — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org>

Hi!

9 messages 2005/03/17

[#134074] Crobjob problem with ruby script. — "andreas.cahen@..." <andreas.cahen@...>

Hi!

19 messages 2005/03/18

[#134078] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E02 - Nitro, a Ruby Based WebFramework

75 messages 2005/03/18
[#134092] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/03/18

Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#136612] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org> 2005/04/03

On 2005-04-03, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#136628] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/03

Csaba Henk wrote:

[#136631] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Saynatkari <ruby-ml@...> 2005/04/03

[#136640] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/03

Saynatkari wrote:

[#136702] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org> 2005/04/04

On 2005-04-04, Robert Klemme <bob.news@gmx.net> wrote:

[#136713] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/04

Csaba Henk wrote:

[#134080] Texas Hold'Em (#24) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

17 messages 2005/03/18

[#134103] Iterating through a string and removing leading characters — Randy Kramer <rhkramer@...>

This is going to seem a little strange (for a number of reasons I might

44 messages 2005/03/18

[#134158] Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Paul wrote an article about his recommendations for current

93 messages 2005/03/19
[#134244] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:

[#134248] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — "Florian Frank" <flori@...> 2005/03/19

Martin DeMello wrote:

[#134250] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/19

Hi --

[#134304] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/20

David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:

[#134270] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/19

Hi,

[#134169] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@...> 2005/03/19

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:54:41 +0900, Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134182] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@gmail.com> writes:

[#134218] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134221] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@...> 2005/03/19

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:35:50 +0900, Navindra Umanee

[#134227] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134232] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134234] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134236] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134237] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134242] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134200] strip and its evil brother strip! — Aquila <braempje@...>

Possibly a stupid question: why does strip! of a string with a single

37 messages 2005/03/19
[#134203] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/03/19

Aquila wrote:

[#134207] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2005/03/19

Glenn Parker wrote:

[#134220] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/03/19

Florian Gross wrote:

[#134223] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2005/03/19

Glenn Parker wrote:

[#134210] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Jason Sweat <jason.sweat@...> 2005/03/19

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:07:15 +0900, Glenn Parker

[#134213] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/19

Hi --

[#134215] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/19

I ranted about this very behavior 2 days ago. I'm willing to do an RCR

[#134262] RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...>

I know that it's not standard policy to announce RCRs on ruby-talk,

90 messages 2005/03/19
[#134276] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/19

For those interested in an alternative, I just put this up on the RCR:

[#134577] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/22

Hi,

[#134594] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/22

Yes, I am liking the proposal less and less as time goes on. And I'm

[#134697] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/22

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#134370] can WEBrick bind to port 0, and then tell me what port was allocated? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

I don't want to use a hard-coded port number, I want it to bind to

12 messages 2005/03/20

[#134413] Ruby, brother of VB? — "Mike Cox" <mikecoxlinux@...>

Hi. I am researching a language to switch to after Microsoft EOL'd classic

16 messages 2005/03/21

[#134481] FMOD or other sound libraries...anyone? — david@... (David Casal)

I'm looking for a good Ruby sound library...

19 messages 2005/03/21

[#134517] Support for 10x Productivity Increase with Rails! — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

I got a lot of flack for what I wrote in my ONLamp.com article on Rails when

27 messages 2005/03/21

[#134555] Ruby newbie: 3 week learning project — "Al Abut - alabut.com" <alabut@...>

Hi all, I'm (very) new to Ruby and I'm blogging out every day of a 3

16 messages 2005/03/21

[#134642] Getting the word to conventional programmers — claird@... (Cameron Laird)

*DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in

25 messages 2005/03/22

[#134660] RubyConf 2005 Preregistration now open! — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

17 messages 2005/03/22

[#134710] Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — "Arfin" <arfinmail@...>

Is there some kind of class to format numbers? Something to let you

75 messages 2005/03/22
[#134718] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/22

Hi --

[#134724] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...> 2005/03/22

> I try to follow the style that is predominant in the Ruby parts of the

[#134730] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/03/22

On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:24 PM, Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#134747] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/03/23

* James Edward Gray II (Mar 22, 2005 23:50):

[#134736] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? [OT] tabs vs. spaces — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/22

Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#134740] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? [OT] tabs vs. spaces — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/22

Quoting bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com, on Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 08:17:53AM +0900:

[#134866] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

Since you were a very young rabbit in little cotton pants, Dwemthy's

17 messages 2005/03/23
[#134885] Re: [ANN] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2005/03/23

In article <50756767050323100730f7f739@mail.gmail.com>,

[#134892] Re: [ANN] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — Patrick Hurley <phurley@...> 2005/03/23

> No doubt _why has put some magic in DwemthysArray that we're missing.

[#134896] Ruby article on DevSource — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

FWIW, DevSource.com (previously mentioned here) now has

13 messages 2005/03/23

[#134990] Syntax 0.7.0 — Jamis Buck <jamis@37signals.com>

Syntax is a pure-Ruby framework for doing lexical analysis (and, in

23 messages 2005/03/24
[#135020] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/24

Quoting jamis@37signals.com, on Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 02:54:20PM +0900:

[#135038] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/03/24

Sam Roberts ha scritto:

[#135042] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/24

Quoting jamis@37signals.com, on Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 01:27:37AM +0900:

[#135013] Syntax for gem list file when hosting own rubygems repository — James Britt <james_b@...>

Are there online docs for creating the YAML file needed when

10 messages 2005/03/24

[#135092] OO database concepts... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

I've been thinking about OO databases -- never having really

24 messages 2005/03/25

[#135147] A Poll — "jeem" <jeem.hughes@...>

Hello group. Please take a minute to satisfy my idle curiousity. I'll

72 messages 2005/03/25

[#135168] Hash::MixIn and Python style Object#dict — Florian Gross <flgr@...>

Moin.

17 messages 2005/03/25
[#135179] Re: Hash::MixIn and Python style Object#dict — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/03/25

Florian Gross ha scritto:

[#135200] English Numerals (#25) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

22 messages 2005/03/25

[#135236] Rake 0.5.0 Release — Jim Weirich <jim@...>

= Rake 0.5.0 Released

14 messages 2005/03/25

[#135253] comment on today's poll and more questions — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

15 messages 2005/03/26

[#135265] Evaluator for a mini-Ruby in Haskell — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...>

Maybe I need to rethink my view of Haskell after all:

17 messages 2005/03/26

[#135372] RubyScript2Exe 0.3.3 — "Erik Veenstra" <pan@...>

17 messages 2005/03/26

[#135393] ! haphazard — bertrandmuscle@...

is ! haphazardly implemented for a reason?

18 messages 2005/03/27
[#135395] Re: ! haphazard — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/27

Tell us what you mean by 'haphazardly' ?

[#135399] Re: ! haphazard — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/03/27

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:47:15 +0900, Daniel Amelang

[#135400] Re: ! haphazard — bertrandmuscle@... 2005/03/27

>>Tell us what you mean by 'haphazardly' ?

[#135404] Re: ! haphazard — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/27

Gotcha. Well, I can tell you firsthand about the controversies of the

[#135480] Ruby Weekly News 21st - 27th March 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)

http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20050327.html

17 messages 2005/03/28
[#135826] Re: Ruby Weekly News 21st - 27th March 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland) 2005/03/30

In article <slrnd4ffpm.98l.timsuth@europa.zone>, Tim Sutherland wrote:

[#135484] Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "Peter C. Verhage" <usenet2@...>

Hi,

36 messages 2005/03/28
[#135554] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "B. K. Oxley (binkley)" <binkley@...> 2005/03/28

Lothar Scholz wrote:

[#135485] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "Neville Burnell" <Neville.Burnell@...>

I'm using jedit [www.jedit.org]

26 messages 2005/03/28
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On Mar 31, 2005 12:11 PM, Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> wrote:

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* Austin Ziegler (Mar 31, 2005 19:30):

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Fibonacci Benchmark Correction

From: jzakiya@...
Date: 2005-03-16 13:34:50 UTC
List: ruby-talk #133852
The Great Computer Language Shootout Benchmarks
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/

is using an incorrect fibonacci algorithm benchmark.

Yesterday I sent this comment to correct it.

I (unfortunately) have noticed this incorrect implementation
of the Fiboncacci algorithm permeated in many places now,
one being the book Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days.

Hoepfully, the GCLSB will make the correction, and others
will also.

Below is the message I sent the GCLSB.

Jabari Zakiya
jzakiya@mail.com
==============================================================

With regard to the Fibonacci algorithm benchmarks it states:

-------------------------------------------------------------
about the fibonacci benchmark
Each program should calculate the Fibonacci function using the same
na阮e recursive-algorithm

F(x)
  x = 0     = 1
  x = 1     = 1
  otherwise = F(x-2) + F(x-1)


Calculate F(N). Correct output N = 32 is:

3524578

For more information see Eric W. Weisstein, "Fibonacci Number." From
MathWorld--A Wolfram Web Resource.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FibonacciNumber.html
-----------------------------------------------------------------

This is an incorrect statement of the Fibonacci algotithm.

The Fibonacci series is: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, .....

The first two terms in the series are: F(0)=0, F(1)=1
from this F(n)= F(n-1)+F(n-2) for n>1

References:
http://goldennumber.net/fibonser.htm
http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fib.html

The reference site: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FibonacciNumber.html
in fact, states the algorithm correctly, but it was apparently misread.

------------------------------------------
The Fibonacci numbers of the sequence of numbers Fn defined by the Un
in the Lucas sequence, which can be viewed as a particular case of the
Fibonacci polynomials Fn(x) with Fn=Fn(1).
They are companions to the Lucas numbers and satisfy the same
recurrence relation,

Fn = Fn-2 + Fn-1

for n = 3, 4, ..., with F1=F2=1. The first few Fibonacci numbers are 1,
1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, ... (Sloane's A000045). As a result of the
definition (1), it is conventional to define F0=0. Fibonacci numbers
are implemented in Mathematica as Fibonacci[n].
-----------------------------------------

As you can see, this does explicitly states F0=0 and NOT F0=1 as the
benchmark states.
It also explicitly defines F1 = F2 = 1. Their description starts the
series as 1, 1, 2,...
to show its relation to the Lucas sequence, from which they derive the
fibonacci sequence.
Thus, the mathworld fibonacci series/algorithm description is
consistent with the other references I provided, and when you account
for F0=0, the sequences are identical.

Thus for N = 32, F(32) = 21708309 and NOT 3524578, which is F(33)
see list of F(N) at http://goldennumber.net/fibonser.htm

Thus, all the fibonacci benchmarks produce incorrect answers for each
Fn,
except for F1=1.

Incorrect fibonacci benchmark code examples:

For Ruby:

def fib(n)
  if n<2 then
    1
  else
    fib(n-2) + fib(n-1)
  end
end

For Forth

: fib (n-m)
  dup 2 < if drop 1 else 1- dup recurse swap 1- recurse + then
;

Thus, when n=0 the benchmark algorithms produce Fib(0) = 1,
which is incorrect, and throws off all the correct values for n by 1.

The correct algorithms should account for Fib(0)=0.

Ruby (1.8.2) example:
# Produces correct Fibonacci values and series
def fib(n)
  if n<2
    n
  else
    fib(n-2) + fib(n-1)
  end
end

or

def fib(n)
  if n>1
    fib(n-1) + fib(n-2)
  else
    n
  end
end

# or

def fib(n)
  if n>1 then fib(n-1)+fib(n-2)
  else n
  end
end

# or as a oneliners

def fib(n) if n>1: fib(n-1)+fib(n-2) else n end end
def fib(n) if n>1 then fib(n-1)+fib(n-2) else n end end

Forth examples:
\ Produces correct Fibonacci values and series
: fib (n-m)
  dup 2 < if exit else 1- dup recurse swap 1- recurse + then
;

\ or better (ANSForth)

: fib (n-m)
  dup 1 > if 1- dup recurse swap 1- recurse + then
;

\ or even better (for gforth)

: fib (n-m) recursive
  dup 1 > if 1- dup fib swap 1- fib + then
;

To correct all the code examples, just fix the conditional expressions:

if n<2 then fib(n)=1, or equivalent, replace with
if n<2 then fib(n)=n, or equivalent.

I hope this helpfull.

Jabari Zakiya
jzakiya@mail.com



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