From: lucsky@... (Luc Heinrich) Date: 2005-04-01T17:29:44+09:00 Subject: Re: Respect and Disappointment Stephen Kellett wrote: > There is every point. Its a matter of fact, not opinion. Either you are > right or you are wrong. The world is not black and white, the world is gray. There's always a "but". > You are wrong on the price front as others have noted. These are just examples (among hundreds of others, Google is your friend) of why the 'overpriced' stance is not a fact, but usually an uninformed out-of-context opinion. I may not be right, but I am definitely not wrong either. The world is not black and white, the world is gray. > On the remaining two point you are taking the classic "I know > better than thou" stance but refusing to provide the answers. On the infamous 'one button mouse', here's a good read: Now, saying that you hate Macs because they come with a one button mouse is probably as moronic as saying that I hate Windows because it comes with Internet Explorer (except that MSIE is proven to be technically inferior to alternatives, while the one-button-mouse isn't). So yes, Macs come with a one button mouse, here's your fact. So what ? How is that a problem ? Leave it in the box and plug a multibutton mouse, OS X will support it just fine. That's exactly the same as leaving MSIE alone and downloading/installing Firefox (or Mozilla, or Opera, or whatever), and if that is all you have to prove that Macs suck, I wonder who have an attitude problem here... :> Now, on the 'proprietary' thing, again you are being just vague and out-of-context. Proprietary software ? Go and have a look here: Not white (fully opensource), but also *very* far from being black, as your "fact" would suggest. Proprietary hardware ? As someone else already asked in this thread, what is non-proprietary hardware exactly ? Does it really exist ? If Apple's hardware is so proprietary and opaque, how is it possible that you can run and install half a dozen Linux distros and/or BSD variants on it ? Again, you hating the Mac is not a problem for me, I really don't care, it's your loss. You spreading FUD and presenting it as "facts", yes, that is a problem for me. The world is not black and white, the world is gray. And now finally, I'd like to apologize to the group/list as a whole, I promised to not followup and add more offtopic material and noise, but I got enough insults by email after this (you know who you are) to at least try to clarify. -- Luc Heinrich - lucsky@mac.com - http://www.honk-honk.com