[#132675] Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org>

Explaine this to me please:

22 messages 2005/03/02
[#132676] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Javier Valencia wrote:

[#132677] Re: Modules and methods — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/02

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:48:35 +0900, Javier Valencia <jvalencia@log01.org> wrote:

[#132678] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Brian Schrer wrote:

[#132679] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Javier Valencia wrote:

[#132682] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Just another example:

[#132683] Re: Modules and methods — ts <decoux@...> 2005/03/02

>>>>> "J" == Javier Valencia <jvalencia@log01.org> writes:

[#132685] Re: Modules and methods — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/02

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:02 +0900, ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:

[#132686] Re: Modules and methods — ts <decoux@...> 2005/03/02

>>>>> "B" == Brian Schr=F6der?= <ISO-8859-1> writes:

[#132689] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

ts wrote:

[#132703] A wish: Simple database — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Hi, all...

35 messages 2005/03/02

[#132778] post inc problem — Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2005/03/03
[#132780] Re: post inc problem — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/03

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:14:44 +0900, Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@chello.hu> wrote:

[#132783] RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

Below, I posting the entire text of this blog entry:

96 messages 2005/03/03
[#132784] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132786] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Alexander Kellett <ruby-lists@...> 2005/03/03

On Mar 3, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132794] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/03/03

[#132823] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/03/03

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:21:03 +0900, Alexander Kellett

[#132845] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

Lyle Johnson wrote:

[#132859] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/04

Hi,

[#132901] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — leon breedt <bitserf@...> 2005/03/04

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:45:16 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto

[#132821] Re: RAA Status & b — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132822] Re: RAA Status & b — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

James Britt wrote:

[#132826] Re: RAA Status & b — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132827] Re: RAA Status & b — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/03

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 05:02:52 +0900, Ben Giddings

[#132830] Re: RAA Status & b — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2005/03/03

[#132881] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

Sam Roberts [mailto:sroberts@uniserve.com] wrote:

25 messages 2005/03/04
[#132883] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting botp@delmonte-phil.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:21:01PM +0900:

[#132884] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2005/03/04

[#132889] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting rich@infoether.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:47:34PM +0900:

[#132894] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2005/03/04

[#132899] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting rich@infoether.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:11:16PM +0900:

[#132913] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/04

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:37:28 +0900, Sam Roberts

[#132925] Roman Numerals (#22) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

24 messages 2005/03/04

[#132989] building rdocs for Rake — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

11 messages 2005/03/05

[#133002] ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — Minero Aoki <aamine@...>

Hi all,

29 messages 2005/03/06
[#133004] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/06

Hi --

[#133006] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/06

Hi,

[#133010] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/06

Hi --

[#133021] Noob:Objects as key in hash — Tom Willis <tom.willis@...>

Hi all,

14 messages 2005/03/06

[#133058] WEBrick for a local application? — Jeremy Bear <jeremy.bear@...>

Hello!

17 messages 2005/03/07
[#133060] Re: WEBrick for a local application? — Joao Pedrosa <joaopedrosa@...> 2005/03/07

Hi,

[#133063] Re: WEBrick for a local application? — Jeremy Bear <jeremy.bear@...> 2005/03/07

> > My main question, I guess, is this: Is there any way that I can use

[#133094] ncurses ruby and utf-8 — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...>

hello group,

12 messages 2005/03/07

[#133255] Tiny URLs — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>

Informal poll: Are there others as leery as I am of tinyurl and similar

33 messages 2005/03/10

[#133265] ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>

14 messages 2005/03/10
[#133345] Re: ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Ian Macdonald <ian@...> 2005/03/11

On Thu 10 Mar 2005 at 20:46:51 +0900, Dick Davies wrote:

[#133366] Re: ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...> 2005/03/11

* Ian Macdonald <ian@caliban.org> [0345 06:45]:

[#133313] Gateway broken? — "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Berger@...>

Hi all,

18 messages 2005/03/10
[#133314] Re: Gateway broken? — "ES" <ruby-ml@...> 2005/03/10

On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said:

[#133317] Re: Gateway broken? — Dennis Oelkers <dennis@...> 2005/03/10

Hey folks,

[#133336] Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

This is an informal announcement of a possible position for

23 messages 2005/03/11
[#133338] Re: [JOB] Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...> 2005/03/11

On Mar 10, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Joel VanderWerf wrote:

[#133382] Redesign 2005 Blog — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

The vit-core team (assigned to redesign ruby-lang.org) has unveiled our

30 messages 2005/03/11
[#133491] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005 Blog — "Josef 'Jupp' Schugt" <jupp@...> 2005/03/13

why the lucky stiff wrote:

[#133426] Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

Seattle.rb will be hosting a RubyGems cleanup and enhancement codefest!

46 messages 2005/03/12
[#133532] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/14

Eric Hodel wrote:

[#133542] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — vruz <horacio.lopez@...> 2005/03/14

> Is there any chance you could start this process a little bit? Choose

[#133548] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/03/15

On Mar 14, 2005, at 5:18 PM, vruz wrote:

[#133432] Help a newbie pick a gui tool kit — Dennis Roberts <denrober@...>

So I am still learning Ruby. I am also learning C. I just did

39 messages 2005/03/12

[#133483] how do you duck-type something to String, so String believes you? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

I can give something a #to_str, which should be an indication that it is

11 messages 2005/03/13

[#133511] RubyURL.com — Robby Russell <robby@...>

I felt like giving myself a small project to get my feet a bit more wet

27 messages 2005/03/14

[#133550] Getting Started with Orbjson tutorial — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>

I wrote a tutorial on using the Orbjson library to create Web

12 messages 2005/03/15
[#133553] Re: [ANN] Getting Started with Orbjson tutorial — vruz <horacio.lopez@...> 2005/03/15

> I wrote a tutorial on using the Orbjson library to create Web

[#133611] class variables and class instance variable? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello.

20 messages 2005/03/15

[#133614] n body problem — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

Here's a first pass at the n body problem in the shootout - I've tried

23 messages 2005/03/15

[#133616] will '@@' disapear in ruby2? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello there!

13 messages 2005/03/15

[#133688] eval/binding question — Stefan Kaes <skaes@...>

I tried to create local variables from a name=>value hash passed as a

23 messages 2005/03/15
[#133703] Re: eval/binding question — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/15

Hi,

[#133719] Re: eval/binding question — Stefan Kaes <skaes@...> 2005/03/15

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#133748] FAQ for comp.lang.ruby — hal9000@...

RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2004-10-16)

15 messages 2005/03/15

[#133785] Examples for racc? — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>

Hey all,

15 messages 2005/03/15

[#133852] Fibonacci Benchmark Correction — jzakiya@...

The Great Computer Language Shootout Benchmarks

26 messages 2005/03/16

[#133875] Symbol vs String — Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2005/03/16

[#133909] bug? ruby doesn't flush stdio on exit! — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

This can't be a feature... stdio should flush on exit!

11 messages 2005/03/17

[#133959] new language shootout — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...>

Hi, I have been thinking a bit on creating a new language shootout. All

11 messages 2005/03/17

[#133981] Maximum stack depth — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...>

It would be useful to have a Ruby command-line option to specify a

27 messages 2005/03/17

[#133999] Free Rails hosting? — Aquila <braempje@...>

I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather try Rails.

23 messages 2005/03/17

[#134022] encapsulating rubygems so that my users don't need to be aware of it — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org>

Hi!

9 messages 2005/03/17

[#134074] Crobjob problem with ruby script. — "andreas.cahen@..." <andreas.cahen@...>

Hi!

19 messages 2005/03/18

[#134078] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E02 - Nitro, a Ruby Based WebFramework

75 messages 2005/03/18
[#134092] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/03/18

Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#136612] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org> 2005/04/03

On 2005-04-03, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#136628] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/03

Csaba Henk wrote:

[#136631] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Saynatkari <ruby-ml@...> 2005/04/03

[#136640] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/03

Saynatkari wrote:

[#136702] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org> 2005/04/04

On 2005-04-04, Robert Klemme <bob.news@gmx.net> wrote:

[#136713] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/04

Csaba Henk wrote:

[#134080] Texas Hold'Em (#24) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

17 messages 2005/03/18

[#134103] Iterating through a string and removing leading characters — Randy Kramer <rhkramer@...>

This is going to seem a little strange (for a number of reasons I might

44 messages 2005/03/18

[#134158] Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Paul wrote an article about his recommendations for current

93 messages 2005/03/19
[#134244] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:

[#134248] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — "Florian Frank" <flori@...> 2005/03/19

Martin DeMello wrote:

[#134250] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/19

Hi --

[#134304] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/20

David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:

[#134270] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/19

Hi,

[#134169] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@...> 2005/03/19

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:54:41 +0900, Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134182] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@gmail.com> writes:

[#134218] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134221] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@...> 2005/03/19

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:35:50 +0900, Navindra Umanee

[#134227] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134232] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134234] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134236] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134237] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134242] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134200] strip and its evil brother strip! — Aquila <braempje@...>

Possibly a stupid question: why does strip! of a string with a single

37 messages 2005/03/19
[#134203] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/03/19

Aquila wrote:

[#134207] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2005/03/19

Glenn Parker wrote:

[#134220] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/03/19

Florian Gross wrote:

[#134223] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2005/03/19

Glenn Parker wrote:

[#134210] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Jason Sweat <jason.sweat@...> 2005/03/19

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:07:15 +0900, Glenn Parker

[#134213] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/19

Hi --

[#134215] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/19

I ranted about this very behavior 2 days ago. I'm willing to do an RCR

[#134262] RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...>

I know that it's not standard policy to announce RCRs on ruby-talk,

90 messages 2005/03/19
[#134276] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/19

For those interested in an alternative, I just put this up on the RCR:

[#134577] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/22

Hi,

[#134594] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/22

Yes, I am liking the proposal less and less as time goes on. And I'm

[#134697] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/22

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#134370] can WEBrick bind to port 0, and then tell me what port was allocated? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

I don't want to use a hard-coded port number, I want it to bind to

12 messages 2005/03/20

[#134413] Ruby, brother of VB? — "Mike Cox" <mikecoxlinux@...>

Hi. I am researching a language to switch to after Microsoft EOL'd classic

16 messages 2005/03/21

[#134481] FMOD or other sound libraries...anyone? — david@... (David Casal)

I'm looking for a good Ruby sound library...

19 messages 2005/03/21

[#134517] Support for 10x Productivity Increase with Rails! — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

I got a lot of flack for what I wrote in my ONLamp.com article on Rails when

27 messages 2005/03/21

[#134555] Ruby newbie: 3 week learning project — "Al Abut - alabut.com" <alabut@...>

Hi all, I'm (very) new to Ruby and I'm blogging out every day of a 3

16 messages 2005/03/21

[#134642] Getting the word to conventional programmers — claird@... (Cameron Laird)

*DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in

25 messages 2005/03/22

[#134660] RubyConf 2005 Preregistration now open! — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

17 messages 2005/03/22

[#134710] Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — "Arfin" <arfinmail@...>

Is there some kind of class to format numbers? Something to let you

75 messages 2005/03/22
[#134718] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/22

Hi --

[#134724] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...> 2005/03/22

> I try to follow the style that is predominant in the Ruby parts of the

[#134730] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/03/22

On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:24 PM, Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#134747] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/03/23

* James Edward Gray II (Mar 22, 2005 23:50):

[#134736] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? [OT] tabs vs. spaces — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/22

Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#134740] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? [OT] tabs vs. spaces — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/22

Quoting bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com, on Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 08:17:53AM +0900:

[#134866] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

Since you were a very young rabbit in little cotton pants, Dwemthy's

17 messages 2005/03/23
[#134885] Re: [ANN] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2005/03/23

In article <50756767050323100730f7f739@mail.gmail.com>,

[#134892] Re: [ANN] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — Patrick Hurley <phurley@...> 2005/03/23

> No doubt _why has put some magic in DwemthysArray that we're missing.

[#134896] Ruby article on DevSource — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

FWIW, DevSource.com (previously mentioned here) now has

13 messages 2005/03/23

[#134990] Syntax 0.7.0 — Jamis Buck <jamis@37signals.com>

Syntax is a pure-Ruby framework for doing lexical analysis (and, in

23 messages 2005/03/24
[#135020] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/24

Quoting jamis@37signals.com, on Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 02:54:20PM +0900:

[#135038] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/03/24

Sam Roberts ha scritto:

[#135042] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/24

Quoting jamis@37signals.com, on Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 01:27:37AM +0900:

[#135013] Syntax for gem list file when hosting own rubygems repository — James Britt <james_b@...>

Are there online docs for creating the YAML file needed when

10 messages 2005/03/24

[#135092] OO database concepts... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

I've been thinking about OO databases -- never having really

24 messages 2005/03/25

[#135147] A Poll — "jeem" <jeem.hughes@...>

Hello group. Please take a minute to satisfy my idle curiousity. I'll

72 messages 2005/03/25

[#135168] Hash::MixIn and Python style Object#dict — Florian Gross <flgr@...>

Moin.

17 messages 2005/03/25
[#135179] Re: Hash::MixIn and Python style Object#dict — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/03/25

Florian Gross ha scritto:

[#135200] English Numerals (#25) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

22 messages 2005/03/25

[#135236] Rake 0.5.0 Release — Jim Weirich <jim@...>

= Rake 0.5.0 Released

14 messages 2005/03/25

[#135253] comment on today's poll and more questions — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

15 messages 2005/03/26

[#135265] Evaluator for a mini-Ruby in Haskell — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...>

Maybe I need to rethink my view of Haskell after all:

17 messages 2005/03/26

[#135372] RubyScript2Exe 0.3.3 — "Erik Veenstra" <pan@...>

17 messages 2005/03/26

[#135393] ! haphazard — bertrandmuscle@...

is ! haphazardly implemented for a reason?

18 messages 2005/03/27
[#135395] Re: ! haphazard — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/27

Tell us what you mean by 'haphazardly' ?

[#135399] Re: ! haphazard — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/03/27

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:47:15 +0900, Daniel Amelang

[#135400] Re: ! haphazard — bertrandmuscle@... 2005/03/27

>>Tell us what you mean by 'haphazardly' ?

[#135404] Re: ! haphazard — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/27

Gotcha. Well, I can tell you firsthand about the controversies of the

[#135480] Ruby Weekly News 21st - 27th March 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)

http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20050327.html

17 messages 2005/03/28
[#135826] Re: Ruby Weekly News 21st - 27th March 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland) 2005/03/30

In article <slrnd4ffpm.98l.timsuth@europa.zone>, Tim Sutherland wrote:

[#135484] Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "Peter C. Verhage" <usenet2@...>

Hi,

36 messages 2005/03/28
[#135554] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "B. K. Oxley (binkley)" <binkley@...> 2005/03/28

Lothar Scholz wrote:

[#135485] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "Neville Burnell" <Neville.Burnell@...>

I'm using jedit [www.jedit.org]

26 messages 2005/03/28
[#135519] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — Chris Morris <the.chrismo@...> 2005/03/28

> I'm using jedit [www.jedit.org ]

[#135615] Re: Java for Rubyists — "Albert Chou" <achou@...>

I'm not anything like a Java expert, but I do refer to Bruce Eckel's

18 messages 2005/03/29
[#135623] Re: Java for Rubyists — Tom Willis <tom.willis@...> 2005/03/29

I second Eckel

[#135686] Re: Java for Rubyists — Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@...> 2005/03/29

> I fell the original posters pain. My work world is filled with long

[#135699] FreeBSD Rubyists? Do Remote Objects work for you? — Miles Keaton <mileskeaton@...>

Looking for any Ruby users on FreeBSD.

11 messages 2005/03/29

[#135708] attr :<symbol>? — Luke Renn <goseigen@...>

What is the proper term for things like attr :<id> and belongs_to

18 messages 2005/03/29

[#135770] Open letter to anyone developing a Ruby IDE — "Adelle Hartley" <adelle@...>

It has been said that features like "intellisense" or "autocomplete" are

25 messages 2005/03/30
[#135778] Re: Open letter to anyone developing a Ruby IDE — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/03/30

Hello Adelle,

[#135784] Blah-Blah List (and why line counts are a bad metric) — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>

So, I did a search for Ruby on Rails today, and my interest was piqued

13 messages 2005/03/30

[#135806] - Time for "comp.lang.ruby.announce" ? — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

I've noticed a high ammount of announcements ("[ANN]") on this group.

21 messages 2005/03/30

[#135820] Poor efficency of Ruby... — JZ <spamerom@...>

I have prior experiency with php and recently pythonic application servers

48 messages 2005/03/30

[#135841] look-behind regexp ? — Shajith <demerzel@...>

Hi!

14 messages 2005/03/30

[#135859] Defining a Class Accessor — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

I was playing around with an idea in another thread and ran into a

13 messages 2005/03/30

[#135863] Respect and Disappointment — Curt Hibbs <curt@...>

I've finally started a blog. I really didn't want to go public with it

148 messages 2005/03/30
[#136024] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Josef Pospisil <perails@...> 2005/03/31

Hello Curt,

[#136033] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Bill Atkins <batkins57@...> 2005/03/31

Ridiculous. You're saying Rails (I'm assuming that's what you mean by

[#136048] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/03/31

My .02 cents:

[#136087] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 6:17 AM, Francis Hwang <sera@fhwang.net> wrote:

[#136122] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/31

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#136127] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 12:11 PM, Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> wrote:

[#136135] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/03/31

* Austin Ziegler (Mar 31, 2005 19:30):

[#136159] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 1:01 PM, Nikolai Weibull

[#136147] Re: Respect and Disappointment — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...> 2005/03/31

> I've finally started a blog. I really didn't want to go public with it

[#136171] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Stephen Kellett <snail@...> 2005/03/31

In message <6c87a002d5858216dd00a4abe83e032d@loudthinking.com>, David

[#136006] Complete beginner in programming — "Roger Grosswiler" <roger@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2005/03/31

Ruby Weekly News 7th - 13th March 2005

From: timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)
Date: 2005-03-15 13:57:37 UTC
List: ruby-talk #133633
http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20050313.html

   Ruby Weekly News 7th - 13th March 2005
   --------------------------------------

   Ruby Weekly News is a summary of the week's activity on the ruby-talk
   mailing list / the comp.lang.ruby newsgroup, brought to you by Tim
   Sutherland.

   Special thanks this week goes to Paul van Tilburg, who converted several
   weeks of newsletters from RubyGarden format to Hobix. This provided nice
   syndication with RSS and Atom. I liked his work so much that I decided to
   save him the trouble of doing the conversion every week and just use Hobix
   myself! I intend to translate the old newsletters into this format as
   well.

   I'm interested in feedback on the new layout and functionality.

Articles and Announcements
--------------------------

     * Ruby Central 2005 Codefest Grant recipients
     ---------------------------------------------

       David A. Black announced that there were five recipients of the first
       Ruby Central Codefest Grant program.

       They each receive up to US$500, to be used for hosting "codefests",
       where groups of developers meet up at the same physical location to
       hack.

         1. Ruby Displaytag (Dave Tiu)
         2. Ruby/AGG and Ruby/View (Andrey Melnik)
         3. Gambit (James Edward Gray II)
         4. Ruby Bindings to Lucene Search Engine (Brian McCallister)
         5. RubyGems cleanup and enhancement (Ryan Davis)

     * Who wants to learn Ruby with me?
     ----------------------------------

       Andreas Sprotte is looking for a partner to write a RubyCocoa
       application for the Mac.

       "I want to learn about the model view controller pattern,
       object-orientation, basic networking and accessing a database. We'd
       email us back and forth and would collaborate via SubEthaEdit once a
       week.

       The project should be something that could be completed in about 40
       hours, maybe spread about 4 to 6 weeks."

     * Ruby Developers in Tokyo, Japan
     ---------------------------------

       Zev Blut posted a job announcement in the form of a Ruby program.
       Several people posted patches and comments. Zev followed up with
       "Thanks for all the comments and improvements to the coded request for
       Ruby developers! It was certainly more fun than writing a formal job
       posting. Hopefully, I will get a few resumes in my mailbox..."

     * SIGHTING: Ruby article in Dr. Dobb's
     --------------------------------------

       Kaspar Schiess spotted an article in the February 2005 issue of Dr.
       Dobbs called "Amazon.com - Web Services & Ruby". It was written by Ian
       Macdonald. Kaspar reports "The article is well written and makes you
       want to try out the library." (Registration required to view article.)

Quote of the Week
-----------------

   We're breaking the rules here - but this is Ruby-land, so that's okay. The
   quote this week isn't from the ruby-talk mailing list, it's from
   RedHanded, a blog run by why the lucky stiff. (With some other
   contributors from time to time.)

   _why had just observed the "haha" count between the Python and Ruby lists.

   In response, Wonko the semi-successful magician saw fit to declare

     "It's an established scientific fact that Ruby programmers laugh five
     times more per day than Python programmers, and thirty times more than
     Java programmers. And unlike the mad half-a-laugh-per-week C++ crowd,
     it's not all evil cackling laughs, either."

Threads
-------

   Interesting threads this week included:

  [Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement]
  ---------------------------------------------------

   Eric Hodel announced that the Seattle.rb users' group will host the
   RubyGems codefest. "We would like to solicit your ideas on what you want
   to see cleaned up or enhanced in RubyGems." "For our Codefest we do not
   plan on making large changes to the way RubyGems works. One thing we would
   like to focus on is making the gem command more friendly when you hit ^C,
   for example."

   gabriele renzi suggested "One little thing I'd appreciate is some kind of
   feedback for the user like a progress bar both in downloading and
   upgrading cache."

   Curt Hibbs thought a GUI front-end is needed, but that it was probably too
   much work for a codefest. "What I want is something like a news reader, or
   windows file explorer. A desktop GUI with a tree control on the left and a
   detail panel of sorts on the right. With the ability to mount and browse
   multiple repositories as well as your installed gems."

   Richard Lyman had created a mockup GUI front-end at one stage, but nothing
   happened after that. He will have more time at the end of April, so may do
   work on it then.

   Jim Freeze made a different request in another thread. "I like the
   versioning of libraries, but I particularly like the versioning of
   applications."

 $ rake --version
 rake, version 0.4.15
 $ rake _0.4.13_ --version
 rake, version 0.4.13

   Jim has a script which launches the application, and would like the user
   to be able to specify which version was run. Perhaps "setenv
   RUBYGEMS_USE_APP_VERSION_xyz_app 1".

  [Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area]
  ----------------------------------

   Joel VanderWerf posted a possible job position for a Ruby programmer. The
   requirements included "Ruby: 2 years, responsible for at least one project
   of >10K lines."

   why the lucky stiff noted "I've always held to the old adage: If you've
   written 10K lines of Ruby code, then you're using it wrong."

   Dave Burt calculated the number of lines in some of the major Ruby
   libraries and applications. Rails is 2K lines, rdoc is 16K and rexml 9K.
   "So the successful applicant will have written one of the (top 5?) largest
   Ruby projects in existence."

   David Heinemeier Hansson (the main author of Rails) agreed with these
   sentiments, saying "I, for one, wouldn't fit the description above. Number
   of years is a utter lackluster indicator for job performance. Rewarding
   the use of 10K lines in Ruby is also fairly questionable."

   Joel defended the requirement, explaining "The app needs to interact with
   3rd party software that has its own highly complex (and often poorly
   designed) input/output system. It needs to do a large variety of
   geometrical calculations (not difficult ones). The programmer for this job
   needs to be comfortable with managing a large number of ugly details. That
   skill is distinct (though of course not exclusive) from writing a lovely
   little ruby library."

  [Watir needs a Win32GUI library]
  --------------------------------

   Bret Pettichord: "We've seen growing enthusiasm for Watir, a web-testing
   library that is good enough that it is convincing people to learn Ruby
   just so that they can use it." He gave a number of quotes from satisfied
   users.

   Watir controls Internet Explorer via the COM interface, but is running
   into some limits with that interface. "I'm writing to ask for help. The
   biggest problem with Watir is its support for various dialogs. These
   dialogs appear when you use a browser; for example, a login dialog or a
   security dialog or a javascript dialog. Watir mostly works by accessing
   the DOM via IE's COM interface. But there is no COM/DOM interface to these
   dialogs."

   Some work has been done using Win32 calls, but Bret thinks it would be
   better to use a general Win32 GUI testing library that already exists. Any
   suggestions?

  [what about a rails-based gforge like?]
  ---------------------------------------

   Lionel Thiry asked "isn't there a need for a rails-based gforge like
   framework?". GForge is a PHP application that provides support for
   collaborative software development, with forums, mailing lists, CVS, bug
   tracking etc. It is used by Rubyforge.

   gabriele renzi thought that it was quite a complex project, and rewriting
   it in Rails wouldn't gain you much. Lionel countered this by quoting the
   claim from Rails enthusiasts that web applications can be developed up to
   ten times faster with Rails. (Although this claim was actually originally
   made in comparison to Java frameworks, not PHP ones.)

   Martin DeMello felt that GForge was not primarily a web application -
   "There are a lot of complex details on the server side that would have to
   be redone for very little gain."

  [need for a class_attr methods collection]
  ------------------------------------------

   Lionel Thiry suggested class_attr methods, similar to attr_reader,
   attr_writer, attr_accessor but for class instance variables.

   class MyClass
       @a = "value"
       class_attr_reader :a
   end
   puts Test.a # it doesn't work

   ts gave the following:

   class MyClass
       @a = "value"
       class << self
           attr_reader :a
       end
   end

   ts also reminded Lionel not to confuse "class instance variable (i.e. @a
   in your example) and class variables (i.e. @@a)".

  [Great Computer Language Shootout]
  ----------------------------------

   Isaac noted that Ruby is currently missing about a dozen programs from the
   Great Computer Language Shootout (a set of benchmarks for many programming
   language implementations).

   "If you have a few moments please contribute stylish Ruby programs."

  [nonblock extension for win32?]
  -------------------------------

   Bill Kelly recalled reading about an issue with blocking IO on Windows,
   and thought that someone had announced a library for Windows that provided
   non-blocking support. Where could he find this library?

   "One of my applications has an unusable feature on windows at present,
   because I need a nonblocking way to read from a pipe returned from
   popen(). Is there any nonblocking way to accomplish this in win32 ruby?"

   Daniel Berger explained that the discussion had been about a patch to the
   Ruby interpreter to fix problems with blocking sockets, not a separate
   library. The patch has been included in CVS. As far as popen() goes, the
   win32-pipe library provides a replacement that will work asynchronously
   (although the API is different).

   Bill said that he'd probably switch to using sockets so his code was
   portable.

  [Redesign 2005 Blog]
  --------------------

   why the lucky stiff linked to the Redesign 2005 Blog. It presents two
   mockups of a new ruby-lang.org website. These were prepared by the
   vit-core team.

   Feedback should be posted to the blog.

  [ODBC OG/ActiveRecords]
  -----------------------

   Luke Galea wanted to use Microsoft Access and Sybase Anywhere databases
   from Ruby. There aren't any Ruby drivers for these at the moment, so he's
   using Ruby-ODBC. "BUT: I would like to use a nice object-relational
   library like ActiveRecord or OG.. Has anyone ever had any success using
   either over ODBC?"

   David Heinemeier Hansson warned that "Generic ODBC adapters are
   problematic because the databases underneath might use different
   strategies for stuff like auto-incremented columns. A Access or Sybase
   adapter that goes through ODBC is certainly possible. I know that shashank
   and a few others were looking into that for Active Record at some point."

   Kirk Haines said that the Kansas ORM (Object Relational Mapper) should be
   able to use ODBC connectios. "Kansas, as an ORM, has been
   feature-incomplete, but stable for many months, and I use it on probably
   20 different production applications. It used DBI for simplicity and
   coverage, making it lightweight."

  [Quoted Printable (#23)]
  ------------------------

   James Edward Gray II set out this week's Ruby Quiz. The task is to write a
   filter that handles the "quoted printable" encoding. (This encoding is
   primarily used in email.)

   For example, the character "<" becomes "=3C".

  [Roman Numerals (#22)]
  ----------------------

   James also summarised last week's quiz, to write a convertor between Roman
   and Arabic numerals.

   One interesting technique was used by Dave Burt. He defined
   Object.const_missing so that constants like IX would automatically be
   converted into RomanNumeral objects.

   "My thanks go out to friends and Romans alike."

  [Malformed UTF-8?]
  ------------------

   Ian Macdonald had recently been getting ArgumentError exceptions from a
   calendar library. The error messages states that the calendar event
   contains malforned UTF-8. Ian gave an example of text that gets rejected
   by String#unpack("U*").

   Simon Strandgaard pointed out the error in the text - it was indeed
   invalid UTF-8.

   Nikolai Weibull posted a program that checks whether text is properly
   formed UTF-8. Unlike String#unpack, this program gives the actual position
   of the first invalid character.

  [YAML obj merging]
  ------------------

   gga wanted to merge two Hash objects in a `recursive' way, e.g.

 irb> a = { 'A' => { 'A1' => 'a' } }
 irb> b = { 'A' => { 'B1' => 'b' } }
 irb> b.mix(a) # ficticious method
 {"A"=>{"A1"=>"a", "B1" => 'b' }}

   Trans said that Ruby Facets provides a weave method which "does what you
   wish and a little more".

  [Is iterating in lock-step possible?]
  -------------------------------------

   This thread considered external vs internal iteration.

 # External
 while g.next?; foo(g.next); end

 # Internal
 g.each { |x| foo(x) }

   The Generator class can be used to convert internal iterators into
   external ones, but it is slow. (1000 times slower according to William
   Morgan's benchmarks.)

   Roshan James wanted to iterate over two Enumerable in parallel, without
   first converting each into an Array. Enumerable#zip can be used for
   parallel iteration, but it converts its arguments into Arrays.

   ts gave the example of

 %w(eins zwei drei).zip([1,2,3]) {|a, b| puts "#{a} #{b}" }

   It was felt that Generator was indeed the right way to go. If it was too
   slow then the objects being iterated over could be changed to have an
   external iterator interface.

  [DRb for dummies !]
  -------------------

   Svend-Erik Kj誡 Madsen had a problem using the ACL (access-control list)
   class with drb (distributed Ruby). The solution was as simple as require
   'drb/acl', but the thread gives us a good excuse to demonstrate ACL.

   Quoting part of Svend-Erik's code, with the extra require,

 require 'drb'
 require 'drb/acl'

 acl = ACL.new( %w[deny all
   allow 192.168.1.*
   allow localhost ] )

 DRb.install_acl(acl)

  [Simple extension question]
  ---------------------------

   Mark Probert asked what the simplest way of clearing an Array from C was,
   i.e. the C equivalent of foo.clear.

   Daniel Berger replied: rb_ary_clear(foo).

   "Tricky, eh? :-P For a complete list of methods, take a look at intern.h."

  [Encoding a multipart/form-data for posting via HTTP]
  -----------------------------------------------------

   Dema announced "After googling around (with no luck) for a while for a
   function that would encode a hash into a multipart/form-data to be sent to
   a HTTP server via POST, I decided to read the RFC and write my own." It
   does not yet handle complex cases.

   Dave Burt thought this should be in Net::HTTP::Post.

New Releases
------------

     * Fast Change Set Tool

       Zed A. Shaw announced the first release of a revision control tool
       he's been working on. FastCST allows you to create full changesets
       between two directories and apply them.

     * GeoIP.rb

       Clifford Heath translated some of the GeoIP C library into Ruby. GeoIP
       is "Geographic database by IP address" and tells you which country the
       user of an IP address is probably in.

     * Rubilicious 0.1.4

       Paul Duncan improved Rubilicious, a Ruby interface to the social
       bookmarking site del.icio.us. #delete and #update are now supported,
       and #all is much more efficient.

     * Imlib2-Ruby 0.5.0

       Paul Duncan also released his latest bindings to the Imlib2 image
       processing library. Packaging and documentation were improved and an
       issue that came up when using Imlib2-Ruby with Rails was resolved.

     * Amrita2-1.9.3

       Taku Nakajima issued forth a new version of Amrita2, an XHTML/XML
       templating library. Support for rich client-side Javascript interfaces
       has been added - Amrita2 now generates both Ruby and Javascript code
       from the template.

     * Irb enhancements

       Cs. Henk made some enhancements to irb, including bash-style
       multi-line editing and context-sensitive history completion. These
       features were met with great enthusiasm.

     * priority queue using RBTree

       Joel VanderWerf "patched" together a PriorityQueue implementation
       using Queue and RBTree (a Ruby red-black tree implementation). He also
       thought that RBTree should be part of the standard Ruby distribution,
       and a couple of people concurred.

     * TkRTTimer class

       This is not exactly a "new release", since Ruby/Tk is part of the
       standard distribution, however: Hidetoshi NAGAI announced the addition
       of the TkRTTimer class to Ruby/Tk. It can be used in place of TkTimer
       and provides something that is closer to a realtime timer.

     * new eric3 snapshot

       Detlev Offenbach announced a new snapshot of eric3, an IDE that
       supports Ruby. A Ruby debugger was added.

     * Kwartz-ruby 2.0.0-beta3 - a template system for Ruby, PHP, and Java

       kwatch enhanced his multi-language templating system. It now includes
       include support.

     * Nitro + Og 0.12.0

       George Moschovitis delivered "A careful blend of new features and
       subtle improvements to the existing infrastructure." Nitro is a web
       application framework, while Og is an object-relational mapper.

       Nitro now allows action meta-data. This is used for example to provide
       routing (rewrite) rules. The templating engine can also now be used
       standalone from the rest of the system.

       A new Og feature is automatic generation of finders for all
       properties.

     * Rails 0.10.1: FCGI stability, WS generator, tons of fixes

       David Heinemeier Hansson announced the latest version of the Rails web
       application framework. "Action Web Service has seen the most
       interesting improvements feature-wise with a new generator and tie-ins
       with the testing setup." XML-RPC support has been improved.

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