From: Ben Giddings Date: 2005-03-30T12:07:21+09:00 Subject: Blah-Blah List (and why line counts are a bad metric) So, I did a search for Ruby on Rails today, and my interest was piqued by the third result. It said "Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too" http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=32723 That page makes the claim "After solving all the problems and adding a number of missing features, the entire application is only 300 lines longer (a 50% increase) and the server tier took not more than 2 days to write." I don't know where to find the Ta-Da list source code, but I found some source for Bla-Bla List. I thought you people might get a chuckle about the "concise" Java code, and the meaninglessness of line number counts: https://svn.rifers.org/blablalist/trunk/src/java/blablalist/dao/ Account.java Ben