From: Richard Lyman <lymans@...>
Date: 2005-03-16T10:45:40+09:00
Subject: Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:00:55 +0900, Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net> wrote:
> On 15 Mar 2005, at 14:33, Richard Lyman wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:48:49 +0900, Ryan Davis <ryand@zenspider.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> We'd like to show up w/ a prioritized list of things we'd like to do
> >> and maybe even some already failing unit tests so we can be on task
> >> from the very beginning. Instead, we are weeding through a bunch of
> >> dogmatic crap that we didn't ask for and are not much closer to having
> >> said list. I've flagged a couple of email for ideas, but they are a
> >> vast minority thus-far.
> >>
> >> P.S. That goes for writing a whole GUI frontend as well. We are
> >> meeting
> >> for ONE WEEKEND.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I'm confused. _What_ goes for writing a whole GUI frontend?
> 
> Not going to happen.
> 
> > You're going to write a frontend for 'gems'?
> 
> No.
> 
> > The _first_ release
> > should be entirely possible in one weekend with a couple of good
> > developers.
> 
> Exactly.  The Codefest Grant is enough for one weekend, so what's the
> purpose of spending money on us if what we develop is unlikely to be
> maintained or finished?  (I'm not terribly interested in maintaining
> it, and I'm certainly not interested in GUI toolkit headaches either.)
> 
> I'd much rather see the Codefest Grant money put to a use that will
> have the greatest benefit to Ruby, and a GUI only falls under the "ooh!
> shiny!" category for me.
> 
> Things like behaving nicely to ^C or a command to remove old gems are
> much more beneficial and I think the community will get more value for
> their donated dollars.  We're looking for the rough edges and dull
> surfaces to sand down and polish.  (Yeah, I'm going to be spending your
> money, so I don't want to be producing stillborn projects.)
> 
> The idea is to pull off a huge success so we (the community) can point
> to something and say "look what your donated dollars bought!"  This way
> more dollars will be donated which allows larger, longer projects to be
> funded.
> 
> --
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> 

That makes perfect sense then. Thanks for the explanation and good
luck with the enhancements!

-Rich