[#132675] Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org>

Explaine this to me please:

22 messages 2005/03/02
[#132676] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Javier Valencia wrote:

[#132677] Re: Modules and methods — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/02

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:48:35 +0900, Javier Valencia <jvalencia@log01.org> wrote:

[#132678] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Brian Schrer wrote:

[#132679] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Javier Valencia wrote:

[#132682] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

Just another example:

[#132683] Re: Modules and methods — ts <decoux@...> 2005/03/02

>>>>> "J" == Javier Valencia <jvalencia@log01.org> writes:

[#132685] Re: Modules and methods — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/02

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:02 +0900, ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:

[#132686] Re: Modules and methods — ts <decoux@...> 2005/03/02

>>>>> "B" == Brian Schr=F6der?= <ISO-8859-1> writes:

[#132689] Re: Modules and methods — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org> 2005/03/02

ts wrote:

[#132703] A wish: Simple database — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Hi, all...

35 messages 2005/03/02

[#132778] post inc problem — Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2005/03/03
[#132780] Re: post inc problem — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/03

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:14:44 +0900, Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@chello.hu> wrote:

[#132783] RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

Below, I posting the entire text of this blog entry:

96 messages 2005/03/03
[#132784] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132786] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Alexander Kellett <ruby-lists@...> 2005/03/03

On Mar 3, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132794] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/03/03

[#132823] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/03/03

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:21:03 +0900, Alexander Kellett

[#132845] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

Lyle Johnson wrote:

[#132859] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/04

Hi,

[#132901] Re: RAA Status & The Problem with Ruby — leon breedt <bitserf@...> 2005/03/04

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:45:16 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto

[#132821] Re: RAA Status & b — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132822] Re: RAA Status & b — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/03/03

James Britt wrote:

[#132826] Re: RAA Status & b — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/03

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#132827] Re: RAA Status & b — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/03/03

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 05:02:52 +0900, Ben Giddings

[#132830] Re: RAA Status & b — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2005/03/03

[#132881] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

Sam Roberts [mailto:sroberts@uniserve.com] wrote:

25 messages 2005/03/04
[#132883] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting botp@delmonte-phil.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:21:01PM +0900:

[#132884] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2005/03/04

[#132889] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting rich@infoether.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:47:34PM +0900:

[#132894] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2005/03/04

[#132899] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/04

Quoting rich@infoether.com, on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:11:16PM +0900:

[#132913] Re: ruby gems, and the require problem (was Re: RAA Status & b) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/04

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:37:28 +0900, Sam Roberts

[#132925] Roman Numerals (#22) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

24 messages 2005/03/04

[#132989] building rdocs for Rake — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

11 messages 2005/03/05

[#133002] ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — Minero Aoki <aamine@...>

Hi all,

29 messages 2005/03/06
[#133004] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/06

Hi --

[#133006] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/06

Hi,

[#133010] Re: ruby-dev summary 25741-25780 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/06

Hi --

[#133021] Noob:Objects as key in hash — Tom Willis <tom.willis@...>

Hi all,

14 messages 2005/03/06

[#133058] WEBrick for a local application? — Jeremy Bear <jeremy.bear@...>

Hello!

17 messages 2005/03/07
[#133060] Re: WEBrick for a local application? — Joao Pedrosa <joaopedrosa@...> 2005/03/07

Hi,

[#133063] Re: WEBrick for a local application? — Jeremy Bear <jeremy.bear@...> 2005/03/07

> > My main question, I guess, is this: Is there any way that I can use

[#133094] ncurses ruby and utf-8 — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...>

hello group,

12 messages 2005/03/07

[#133255] Tiny URLs — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>

Informal poll: Are there others as leery as I am of tinyurl and similar

33 messages 2005/03/10

[#133265] ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>

14 messages 2005/03/10
[#133345] Re: ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Ian Macdonald <ian@...> 2005/03/11

On Thu 10 Mar 2005 at 20:46:51 +0900, Dick Davies wrote:

[#133366] Re: ruby-ldap rebinding ? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...> 2005/03/11

* Ian Macdonald <ian@caliban.org> [0345 06:45]:

[#133313] Gateway broken? — "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Berger@...>

Hi all,

18 messages 2005/03/10
[#133314] Re: Gateway broken? — "ES" <ruby-ml@...> 2005/03/10

On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said:

[#133317] Re: Gateway broken? — Dennis Oelkers <dennis@...> 2005/03/10

Hey folks,

[#133336] Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

This is an informal announcement of a possible position for

23 messages 2005/03/11
[#133338] Re: [JOB] Possible ruby job in SF Bay Area — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...> 2005/03/11

On Mar 10, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Joel VanderWerf wrote:

[#133382] Redesign 2005 Blog — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

The vit-core team (assigned to redesign ruby-lang.org) has unveiled our

30 messages 2005/03/11
[#133491] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005 Blog — "Josef 'Jupp' Schugt" <jupp@...> 2005/03/13

why the lucky stiff wrote:

[#133426] Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

Seattle.rb will be hosting a RubyGems cleanup and enhancement codefest!

46 messages 2005/03/12
[#133532] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/14

Eric Hodel wrote:

[#133542] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — vruz <horacio.lopez@...> 2005/03/14

> Is there any chance you could start this process a little bit? Choose

[#133548] Re: Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/03/15

On Mar 14, 2005, at 5:18 PM, vruz wrote:

[#133432] Help a newbie pick a gui tool kit — Dennis Roberts <denrober@...>

So I am still learning Ruby. I am also learning C. I just did

39 messages 2005/03/12

[#133483] how do you duck-type something to String, so String believes you? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

I can give something a #to_str, which should be an indication that it is

11 messages 2005/03/13

[#133511] RubyURL.com — Robby Russell <robby@...>

I felt like giving myself a small project to get my feet a bit more wet

27 messages 2005/03/14

[#133550] Getting Started with Orbjson tutorial — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>

I wrote a tutorial on using the Orbjson library to create Web

12 messages 2005/03/15
[#133553] Re: [ANN] Getting Started with Orbjson tutorial — vruz <horacio.lopez@...> 2005/03/15

> I wrote a tutorial on using the Orbjson library to create Web

[#133611] class variables and class instance variable? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello.

20 messages 2005/03/15

[#133614] n body problem — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

Here's a first pass at the n body problem in the shootout - I've tried

23 messages 2005/03/15

[#133616] will '@@' disapear in ruby2? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello there!

13 messages 2005/03/15

[#133688] eval/binding question — Stefan Kaes <skaes@...>

I tried to create local variables from a name=>value hash passed as a

23 messages 2005/03/15
[#133703] Re: eval/binding question — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/15

Hi,

[#133719] Re: eval/binding question — Stefan Kaes <skaes@...> 2005/03/15

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#133748] FAQ for comp.lang.ruby — hal9000@...

RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2004-10-16)

15 messages 2005/03/15

[#133785] Examples for racc? — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>

Hey all,

15 messages 2005/03/15

[#133852] Fibonacci Benchmark Correction — jzakiya@...

The Great Computer Language Shootout Benchmarks

26 messages 2005/03/16

[#133875] Symbol vs String — Sebesty駭 G畸or <segabor@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2005/03/16

[#133909] bug? ruby doesn't flush stdio on exit! — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

This can't be a feature... stdio should flush on exit!

11 messages 2005/03/17

[#133959] new language shootout — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...>

Hi, I have been thinking a bit on creating a new language shootout. All

11 messages 2005/03/17

[#133981] Maximum stack depth — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...>

It would be useful to have a Ruby command-line option to specify a

27 messages 2005/03/17

[#133999] Free Rails hosting? — Aquila <braempje@...>

I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather try Rails.

23 messages 2005/03/17

[#134022] encapsulating rubygems so that my users don't need to be aware of it — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org>

Hi!

9 messages 2005/03/17

[#134074] Crobjob problem with ruby script. — "andreas.cahen@..." <andreas.cahen@...>

Hi!

19 messages 2005/03/18

[#134078] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

[EVALUATION] - E02 - Nitro, a Ruby Based WebFramework

75 messages 2005/03/18
[#134092] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/03/18

Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#136612] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org> 2005/04/03

On 2005-04-03, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#136628] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/03

Csaba Henk wrote:

[#136631] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Saynatkari <ruby-ml@...> 2005/04/03

[#136640] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/03

Saynatkari wrote:

[#136702] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org> 2005/04/04

On 2005-04-04, Robert Klemme <bob.news@gmx.net> wrote:

[#136713] Re: [EVALUATION] - E03 - jamLang Evaluation Case Applied to Ruby — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/04/04

Csaba Henk wrote:

[#134080] Texas Hold'Em (#24) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

17 messages 2005/03/18

[#134103] Iterating through a string and removing leading characters — Randy Kramer <rhkramer@...>

This is going to seem a little strange (for a number of reasons I might

44 messages 2005/03/18

[#134158] Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Paul wrote an article about his recommendations for current

93 messages 2005/03/19
[#134244] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:

[#134248] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — "Florian Frank" <flori@...> 2005/03/19

Martin DeMello wrote:

[#134250] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/19

Hi --

[#134304] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/20

David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:

[#134270] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/19

Hi,

[#134169] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@...> 2005/03/19

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:54:41 +0900, Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134182] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@gmail.com> writes:

[#134218] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134221] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@...> 2005/03/19

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:35:50 +0900, Navindra Umanee

[#134227] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134232] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134234] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134236] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134237] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/03/19

Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#134242] Re: Paul Graham recommends Ruby — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/03/19

Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:

[#134200] strip and its evil brother strip! — Aquila <braempje@...>

Possibly a stupid question: why does strip! of a string with a single

37 messages 2005/03/19
[#134203] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/03/19

Aquila wrote:

[#134207] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2005/03/19

Glenn Parker wrote:

[#134220] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2005/03/19

Florian Gross wrote:

[#134223] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2005/03/19

Glenn Parker wrote:

[#134210] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Jason Sweat <jason.sweat@...> 2005/03/19

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:07:15 +0900, Glenn Parker

[#134213] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/19

Hi --

[#134215] Re: strip and its evil brother strip! — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/19

I ranted about this very behavior 2 days ago. I'm willing to do an RCR

[#134262] RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...>

I know that it's not standard policy to announce RCRs on ruby-talk,

90 messages 2005/03/19
[#134276] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/19

For those interested in an alternative, I just put this up on the RCR:

[#134577] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/03/22

Hi,

[#134594] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/22

Yes, I am liking the proposal less and less as time goes on. And I'm

[#134697] Re: RCR 296: Destructive methods return self — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/22

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#134370] can WEBrick bind to port 0, and then tell me what port was allocated? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

I don't want to use a hard-coded port number, I want it to bind to

12 messages 2005/03/20

[#134413] Ruby, brother of VB? — "Mike Cox" <mikecoxlinux@...>

Hi. I am researching a language to switch to after Microsoft EOL'd classic

16 messages 2005/03/21

[#134481] FMOD or other sound libraries...anyone? — david@... (David Casal)

I'm looking for a good Ruby sound library...

19 messages 2005/03/21

[#134517] Support for 10x Productivity Increase with Rails! — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

I got a lot of flack for what I wrote in my ONLamp.com article on Rails when

27 messages 2005/03/21

[#134555] Ruby newbie: 3 week learning project — "Al Abut - alabut.com" <alabut@...>

Hi all, I'm (very) new to Ruby and I'm blogging out every day of a 3

16 messages 2005/03/21

[#134642] Getting the word to conventional programmers — claird@... (Cameron Laird)

*DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in

25 messages 2005/03/22

[#134660] RubyConf 2005 Preregistration now open! — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

17 messages 2005/03/22

[#134710] Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — "Arfin" <arfinmail@...>

Is there some kind of class to format numbers? Something to let you

75 messages 2005/03/22
[#134718] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/03/22

Hi --

[#134724] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — Martin Ankerl <martin.ankerl@...> 2005/03/22

> I try to follow the style that is predominant in the Ruby parts of the

[#134730] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/03/22

On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:24 PM, Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#134747] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/03/23

* James Edward Gray II (Mar 22, 2005 23:50):

[#134736] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? [OT] tabs vs. spaces — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/22

Martin Ankerl wrote:

[#134740] Re: Any guides for good coding in Ruby? [OT] tabs vs. spaces — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/22

Quoting bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com, on Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 08:17:53AM +0900:

[#134866] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

Since you were a very young rabbit in little cotton pants, Dwemthy's

17 messages 2005/03/23
[#134885] Re: [ANN] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2005/03/23

In article <50756767050323100730f7f739@mail.gmail.com>,

[#134892] Re: [ANN] Dwemthy's Array -- the Ruby mini_adventure — Patrick Hurley <phurley@...> 2005/03/23

> No doubt _why has put some magic in DwemthysArray that we're missing.

[#134896] Ruby article on DevSource — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

FWIW, DevSource.com (previously mentioned here) now has

13 messages 2005/03/23

[#134990] Syntax 0.7.0 — Jamis Buck <jamis@37signals.com>

Syntax is a pure-Ruby framework for doing lexical analysis (and, in

23 messages 2005/03/24
[#135020] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/24

Quoting jamis@37signals.com, on Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 02:54:20PM +0900:

[#135038] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/03/24

Sam Roberts ha scritto:

[#135042] Re: [ANN] Syntax 0.7.0 — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2005/03/24

Quoting jamis@37signals.com, on Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 01:27:37AM +0900:

[#135013] Syntax for gem list file when hosting own rubygems repository — James Britt <james_b@...>

Are there online docs for creating the YAML file needed when

10 messages 2005/03/24

[#135092] OO database concepts... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

I've been thinking about OO databases -- never having really

24 messages 2005/03/25

[#135147] A Poll — "jeem" <jeem.hughes@...>

Hello group. Please take a minute to satisfy my idle curiousity. I'll

72 messages 2005/03/25

[#135168] Hash::MixIn and Python style Object#dict — Florian Gross <flgr@...>

Moin.

17 messages 2005/03/25
[#135179] Re: Hash::MixIn and Python style Object#dict — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/03/25

Florian Gross ha scritto:

[#135200] English Numerals (#25) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

22 messages 2005/03/25

[#135236] Rake 0.5.0 Release — Jim Weirich <jim@...>

= Rake 0.5.0 Released

14 messages 2005/03/25

[#135253] comment on today's poll and more questions — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

15 messages 2005/03/26

[#135265] Evaluator for a mini-Ruby in Haskell — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...>

Maybe I need to rethink my view of Haskell after all:

17 messages 2005/03/26

[#135372] RubyScript2Exe 0.3.3 — "Erik Veenstra" <pan@...>

17 messages 2005/03/26

[#135393] ! haphazard — bertrandmuscle@...

is ! haphazardly implemented for a reason?

18 messages 2005/03/27
[#135395] Re: ! haphazard — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/27

Tell us what you mean by 'haphazardly' ?

[#135399] Re: ! haphazard — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...> 2005/03/27

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:47:15 +0900, Daniel Amelang

[#135400] Re: ! haphazard — bertrandmuscle@... 2005/03/27

>>Tell us what you mean by 'haphazardly' ?

[#135404] Re: ! haphazard — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/03/27

Gotcha. Well, I can tell you firsthand about the controversies of the

[#135480] Ruby Weekly News 21st - 27th March 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)

http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20050327.html

17 messages 2005/03/28
[#135826] Re: Ruby Weekly News 21st - 27th March 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland) 2005/03/30

In article <slrnd4ffpm.98l.timsuth@europa.zone>, Tim Sutherland wrote:

[#135484] Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "Peter C. Verhage" <usenet2@...>

Hi,

36 messages 2005/03/28
[#135554] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "B. K. Oxley (binkley)" <binkley@...> 2005/03/28

Lothar Scholz wrote:

[#135485] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — "Neville Burnell" <Neville.Burnell@...>

I'm using jedit [www.jedit.org]

26 messages 2005/03/28
[#135519] Re: Best (Windows) Ruby editor — Chris Morris <the.chrismo@...> 2005/03/28

> I'm using jedit [www.jedit.org ]

[#135615] Re: Java for Rubyists — "Albert Chou" <achou@...>

I'm not anything like a Java expert, but I do refer to Bruce Eckel's

18 messages 2005/03/29
[#135623] Re: Java for Rubyists — Tom Willis <tom.willis@...> 2005/03/29

I second Eckel

[#135686] Re: Java for Rubyists — Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@...> 2005/03/29

> I fell the original posters pain. My work world is filled with long

[#135699] FreeBSD Rubyists? Do Remote Objects work for you? — Miles Keaton <mileskeaton@...>

Looking for any Ruby users on FreeBSD.

11 messages 2005/03/29

[#135708] attr :<symbol>? — Luke Renn <goseigen@...>

What is the proper term for things like attr :<id> and belongs_to

18 messages 2005/03/29

[#135770] Open letter to anyone developing a Ruby IDE — "Adelle Hartley" <adelle@...>

It has been said that features like "intellisense" or "autocomplete" are

25 messages 2005/03/30
[#135778] Re: Open letter to anyone developing a Ruby IDE — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/03/30

Hello Adelle,

[#135784] Blah-Blah List (and why line counts are a bad metric) — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>

So, I did a search for Ruby on Rails today, and my interest was piqued

13 messages 2005/03/30

[#135806] - Time for "comp.lang.ruby.announce" ? — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

I've noticed a high ammount of announcements ("[ANN]") on this group.

21 messages 2005/03/30

[#135820] Poor efficency of Ruby... — JZ <spamerom@...>

I have prior experiency with php and recently pythonic application servers

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[#135841] look-behind regexp ? — Shajith <demerzel@...>

Hi!

14 messages 2005/03/30

[#135859] Defining a Class Accessor — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

I was playing around with an idea in another thread and ran into a

13 messages 2005/03/30

[#135863] Respect and Disappointment — Curt Hibbs <curt@...>

I've finally started a blog. I really didn't want to go public with it

148 messages 2005/03/30
[#136024] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Josef Pospisil <perails@...> 2005/03/31

Hello Curt,

[#136033] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Bill Atkins <batkins57@...> 2005/03/31

Ridiculous. You're saying Rails (I'm assuming that's what you mean by

[#136048] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2005/03/31

My .02 cents:

[#136087] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 6:17 AM, Francis Hwang <sera@fhwang.net> wrote:

[#136122] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/03/31

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#136127] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 12:11 PM, Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> wrote:

[#136135] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/03/31

* Austin Ziegler (Mar 31, 2005 19:30):

[#136159] Re: Respect and Disappointment [OT] — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/03/31

On Mar 31, 2005 1:01 PM, Nikolai Weibull

[#136147] Re: Respect and Disappointment — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...> 2005/03/31

> I've finally started a blog. I really didn't want to go public with it

[#136171] Re: Respect and Disappointment — Stephen Kellett <snail@...> 2005/03/31

In message <6c87a002d5858216dd00a4abe83e032d@loudthinking.com>, David

[#136006] Complete beginner in programming — "Roger Grosswiler" <roger@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2005/03/31

Re: Iterating through a string and removing leading characters

From: "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...>
Date: 2005-03-23 09:04:57 UTC
List: ruby-talk #134813
"Randy Kramer" <rhkramer@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:200503221157.21361.rhkramer@gmail.com...
> Robert,
>
> I want to thank you for all your help, it's like having a personal
tutor!

You're welcome!  I'm glad I could help by sharing my experiences.

> Some feedback / observations below that don't really require any
response.

Well, some comments below nevertheless...  :-)

> On Monday 21 March 2005 09:54 am, Robert Klemme wrote:
> > "Randy Kramer" <rhkramer@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > news:200503210919.00242.rhkramer@gmail.com...
> > > On Monday 21 March 2005 04:44 am, Robert Klemme wrote:
> > > > Some remarks:
> > > >  - The comparison between 5 and 6 does not seem fair, as you
iterate
> > in 6
> > > > but not in 5.
>
> After some more testing, your remark seems more on target than I
originally
> thought--I can account for almost all the 30x increase in required time
(for
> 6) by the additional iterations (repeated invocations of the RE engine).
> It's like the invocation is the expensive part, and whether it looks for
a
> pattern at one point or scans the remainder of the(se short) strings is
> negligible.  (See the results of tests 6d and 6e below.)

Well, that clearly shows that simple scanning with a RE is superior to
iterating and then scanning.

> > A particular performance show stopper in test 6 is String#[] i.e. you
> > create a new String object for each test; object creation is
comparatively
> > expensive even though Strings share their internal buffer.  But the GC
has
> > to be informed etc. and this is quite some overhead.  If you want fast
> > code, create as few instances as possible.  The same holds for Java in
99%
> > of all cases.
>
> I'm surprised that Ruby creates a new String object for each test--I
would
> have hoped/thought that it was simply letting me "peek" at a portion of
the
> existing string (especially since it's only a test).

The internal buffer (the characters) is shared but there is a new Ruby
instance each time you invoke String#[]:

>> 10.times { puts s1[2,4].id }
134979736
134979676
134979652
134979592
134979496
134979472
134979436
134979364
134979268
134979196
=> 10

>  I presume that the
> StringScanner behaves more sanely in that respect, but I guess I'll find
> out. ;-)

Never used that myself but it's sure worth a try.

> Thanks for all of the following!  I did substitute them in test 6 to see
what
> they would do.
>
> # old (6): ~18 seconds
> # with range (6a): didn't work, see below
> # with upto (6b): ~14 seconds
> # with times (6c): ~12 seconds
> #6d: ~0.75 seconds (This is the test that convinced me the iterations
are the
> problem, I revised the (with times) program to only call the RE once,
> although it still scans only from the start of the string--I guess I
should
> try test 6e with the RE not anchored.)
> #6e: ~0.6 seconds (Same as 6d, except I removed the \A anchor--and now
I'm
> puzzled, how is this faster than the anchored version??  Anyway, at this
time
> I don't care, I'll just "file it away" as a little anomaly to perhaps
> understand some day (and, as I haven't run the test multiple times or
similar
> in an attempt to discount garbage collection, maybe that is the
problem.)
>
> I did create new test programs (6a, 6b, 6c) but I haven't uploaded them
to the
> TWiki--if you are really interested I can do that, but, as I say below,
I'm
> not going to lose sleep over the problem with range.
>
> For some reason that I haven't figured out (yet?), the "with range"
option
> didn't work.  I'm not going to lose sleep over it--I did try some
> troubleshooting, but it may be a rather subtle bug (or I have a very
dense
> head).
>
> When I run it as part of a program (re_test_6a.rb), I get the following
error
> messages:
>
> bash-2.05b$ re_test6a.rb
> /re_test6a.rb:40: Invalid char `\240' in expression
> /re_test6a.rb:41: Invalid char `\240' in expression
> ..
> /re_test6a.rb:66: Invalid char `\240' in expression
> bash-2.05b$

See comment below.

> When I simply copy the "individual loop" part of the code (i.e., the
portion
> you show below under # with range) into IRB and running it (after
defining
> the appropriate strings), I get (and get kicked out of IRB) BTW, this is
the
> result of attempting to paste the five lines into IRB as a group:
>
> irb(main):021:0>   (0...(s1.length-6)).each do |i|
> irb(main):022:1*    if s1[i] == ?[
> SyntaxError: compile error
> (irb):21: syntax error
>         from (irb):21
>         from (null):0
> bash-2.05b$

>> s1="a"*10
=> "aaaaaaaaaa"
>> (0...(s1.length-6)).each do |i|
?> if s1[i] == ?[
>> puts "yes"
>> end
>> end
=> 0...4

I guess this and the other syntax error above are caused by copying and
pasting some characters outside the ASCII range.  I have experienced
similar errors in the past.  Sometimes they look like whitespace
characters so you don't recognize them on first sight.

> As I try to troubleshoot (by removing pieces from the loop), everything
seems
> to work OK (and I'm learning what some of those pieces do ;-)
>
> Anyway, since I went this far, I have uploaded programs 6a thru 6e to
the
> TWiki, but I am not requesting / suggesting that anyone try to spend
time
> debugging 6a.
>
> http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/RWP_RE_Tests?
>
> > # old
> > i = 0
> > until i==s1.length-6 do
> >   if s1[i] == 91
> >     s1[i,s1.length] =~
> > /\A\[(([A-Z]\w*)\.)?(.*)(#([A-Z]\w*))?\](\[(.*)\])?\]/
> >   end
> >   i += 1
> > end
> >
> > # with range
> > (0...(s1.length-6)).each do |i|
> >   if s1[i] == ?[
> >     s1[i,s1.length] =~
> > /\A\[(([A-Z]\w*)\.)?(.*)(#([A-Z]\w*))?\](\[(.*)\])?\]/
> >   end
> > end
> >
> > # with upto
> > 0.upto(s1.length-7) do |i|
> >   if s1[i] == ?[
> >     s1[i,s1.length] =~
> > /\A\[(([A-Z]\w*)\.)?(.*)(#([A-Z]\w*))?\](\[(.*)\])?\]/
> >   end
> > end
> >
> > # with times
> > (s1.length-6).times do |i|
> >   if s1[i] == ?[
> >     s1[i,s1.length] =~
> > /\A\[(([A-Z]\w*)\.)?(.*)(#([A-Z]\w*))?\](\[(.*)\])?\]/
> >   end
> > end
>
> For anyone following along ;-) my next efforts are going to be focused
on
> StringScanner and then making the necessary substitutions.  In parallel
I
> will probably try to refine the REs.

Please let me/us know how that works out.

> The remainder of this looks useful as well!
>
> regards,
> Randy Kramer
>
> > Hm, if you know that the size of files is limited (i.e. something like
> > just a few KB) then it's usually worth slurping in the whole file with
> > something like this
> >
> > contents = File.open(f){|io| io.read}
> >
> > and then iterate through the whole thing with #scan.  You can still
use ^
> > to anchor at line beginnings.
> >
> > # get the initial sequen until the first non whitespace
> > # just an example
> > contents.scan /^\s+\S/ do |m|
> >   p m[0]
> > end

Kind regards

    robert


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