[#54640] bRuby? — Austin Ziegler <austin@...>

Can anyone explain to me what Yuya's package bRuby

16 messages 2002/11/01
[#54646] Re: bRuby? — Matt Gushee <mgushee@...> 2002/11/01

On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 11:40:51AM +0900, Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#55128] Re: bRuby? (Yet another Ruby parser) — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2002/11/07

In article <20021107151904lBE13F@ohmsha.co.jp>,

[#54839] rubyconf notes — Pat Eyler <pate@...>

On Saturday Night, I recommended that attendees of Ruby Conf send off

38 messages 2002/11/04
[#54881] Matz Roundtable Summary (was Re: rubyconf notes) — Paul Duncan <pabs@...> 2002/11/05

Below is my pieced together summary of matz's roundtable summary. It's

[#54862] A vision for Parrot — Daniel Pfeiffer <occitan@...>

Hi,

80 messages 2002/11/04

[#54889] PGP on the list (was: Re: Matz Roundtable Summary) — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

Paul Duncan (pabs@pablotron.org) wrote:

12 messages 2002/11/05

[#54906] Win32 support issues — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>

<quote source="roundtable">

14 messages 2002/11/05

[#55091] PGP signatures — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>

From: "Paul Duncan" <pabs@pablotron.org>

18 messages 2002/11/07

[#55149] Making Instace Variables Private/Local — William Djaja Tjokroaminata <billtj@...>

Hi Matz,

27 messages 2002/11/07

[#55221] CPAN Style installer — Tom Clarke <tom@...2i.com>

Hi all,

30 messages 2002/11/08
[#55233] Re: CPAN Style installer — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2002/11/08

In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0211071926160.7998-100000@localhost.localdomain>,

[#55241] Re: CPAN Style installer — Tom Clarke <tom@...2i.com> 2002/11/08

On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Phil Tomson wrote:

[#55290] Re: CPAN Style installer — " JamesBritt" <james@...> 2002/11/08

>

[#55291] Re: CPAN Style installer — tom <tom@...2i.com> 2002/11/08

On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, JamesBritt wrote:

[#55304] Re: CPAN Style installer — " JamesBritt" <james@...> 2002/11/08

> From: tom [mailto:tom@u2i.com]

[#55258] Beginner Question (Idiomatic way to subset an array — "Booth, Peter" <Peter.Booth@...>

I'm wondering if there is a more idiomatic way to do the following?

20 messages 2002/11/08
[#55261] Re: Beginner Question (Idiomatic way to subset an array — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2002/11/08

On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Booth, Peter wrote:

[#55268] return MyClass.new vs self.type.send :new — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2002/11/08

[#55361] Lighting Rod — Eric Armstrong <eric.armstrong@...>

I love Ruby's smalltalk features. I really do.

16 messages 2002/11/09

[#55369] Why use 'include' — Eric Schwartz <emschwar@...>

As requested, here's a FAQ question & answer on the usage of modules

13 messages 2002/11/09

[#55372] Random idea: Procedural CGI?? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

I've been musing about something today,

17 messages 2002/11/09

[#55442] Recording of the Ruby segement on LL2 — Yohanes Santoso <ysantoso@...>

Hi all,

22 messages 2002/11/09

[#55461] www.ruby-doc.org — " JamesBritt" <james@...>

Jim Freeze's presentation at RubyConf 2002 mentioned, among other things, the

18 messages 2002/11/10

[#55563] EuRuKo: European Ruby conference — Armin Roehrl <armin@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2002/11/11

[#55571] ruby-dev summary 18613-18710 — TAKAHASHI Masayoshi <maki@...>

Hi all,

26 messages 2002/11/11
[#55926] Re: ruby-dev summary 18613-18710 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland) 2002/11/15

In article <20021112020739J.maki@rubycolor.org>, TAKAHASHI Masayoshi wrote:

[#55929] Re: ruby-dev summary 18613-18710 — dblack@... 2002/11/15

Hi --

[#55955] Re: ruby-dev summary 18613-18710 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland) 2002/11/15

In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0211142157370.25867-100000@candle.superlink.net>,

[#55750] Another Newbie question regarding instance variables? — montana <montana@...99.bsd.st>

The value of an instance variable is only available to the instance of the class, whereas the value of the class variable is available to all instances of the class? Is this correct?

10 messages 2002/11/13

[#55815] RubyConf 2002 Slides for FreeRIDE Presentation — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

I finally got the slides online from Rich Kilmer's FreeRIDE presentation at

40 messages 2002/11/14
[#55828] Re: RubyConf 2002 Slides for FreeRIDE Presentation — " JamesBritt" <james@...> 2002/11/14

>

[#55829] Re: RubyConf 2002 Slides for FreeRIDE Presentation — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2002/11/14

JamesBritt wrote:

[#56087] Re: RubyConf 2002 Slides for FreeRIDE Presentation — Robert McGovern <tarasis@...> 2002/11/17

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#56088] Re: RubyConf 2002 Slides for FreeRIDE Presentation — "Rich Kilmer" <rich@...> 2002/11/17

Extensibility IN RUBY was the key thing for us. We wanted the IDE to be

[#55818] regex help — "Shashank Date" <sdate@...>

Using ruby 1.7.3 (2002-10-12) [i386-mswin32] on Win XP (Home)

14 messages 2002/11/14

[#55842] Ruby equivalent to Python's map()? — wolfoxbr@... (Roberto Amorim)

Hi...

18 messages 2002/11/14

[#56045] Not really a ruby question, but this is a smart group. Win32 file.write timing. — jcb@... (MetalOne)

I am trying to write non-compressed video to a file at 40 fps.

16 messages 2002/11/16

[#56119] ruby-dev summary 18711-18810 — Minero Aoki <aamine@...>

Hi all,

34 messages 2002/11/18

[#56131] identing ruby in vim — Maur兤io <briqueabraque@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2002/11/18

[#56158] install.rb/setup.rb question — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

I want to install a script that will be run as an executable which isn't a

26 messages 2002/11/18

[#56250] Need help dynamically creating classes. — pgregory@... (Paul Gregory)

I have a system at the moment where I create 'things' based on a base

11 messages 2002/11/19

[#56300] untainted, unfrozen, honest-to-god session data! — "Chris" <nemo@...>

Hello,

12 messages 2002/11/20

[#56376] Interpreted vs compiled [FAQ] defining methods anywhere — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Hello,

13 messages 2002/11/21
[#56378] Re: [FAQ] Interpreted vs compiled [FAQ] defining methods anywhere — "Iain 'Spoon' Truskett" <spoon-dated-1039065493.b360fd@...> 2002/11/21

* Daniel Carrera (dcarrera@math.umd.edu) [21 Nov 2002 16:07]:

[#56388] Ruby is too slow — jcb@... (MetalOne)

I have been writing some image processing algorithms that run on incoming

37 messages 2002/11/21

[#56440] Multiple constructors? — christopher.j.meisenzahl@...

18 messages 2002/11/21

[#56469] The ultimate Application — "Dat Nguyen" <thucdat@...>

13 messages 2002/11/21

[#56593] Ruby idom needed — Robert Cowham <rc@...>

What's the best ruby idiom for the following Perl:

23 messages 2002/11/24

[#56633] Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — William Djaja Tjokroaminata <billtj@...>

Hi,

56 messages 2002/11/25
[#56679] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — William Djaja Tjokroaminata <billtj@...> 2002/11/25

Hi,

[#56694] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...> 2002/11/26

From: "Simon Cozens" <simon@simon-cozens.org>

[#56695] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2002/11/26

[#56722] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — Austin Ziegler <austin@...> 2002/11/26

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:21:48 +0900, Daniel Carrera wrote:

[#56725] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2002/11/26

> It's applicable to a small subset of the total set of classes.

[#56726] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...> 2002/11/26

[#56729] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2002/11/26

[snip]

[#56738] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — dblack@... 2002/11/26

Hi --

[#56744] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — Jason Persampieri <helgaorg@...> 2002/11/26

> You're not changing the letter 'a' itself; you're

[#56764] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...> 2002/11/26

----- Original Message -----

[#56807] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — Jason Persampieri <helgaorg@...> 2002/11/26

OK... I get it... I understood your argument (although

[#56812] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — William Djaja Tjokroaminata <billtj@...> 2002/11/26

Jason Persampieri <helgaorg@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#56814] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (11/24/02) — dblack@... 2002/11/26

Hi --

[#56665] FXRuby on Mandrake 8.2 — Ludo <coquelle@...>

Hi, could someone help a beginner rubyer please ?

15 messages 2002/11/25

[#56708] Default value of property — Tim Bates <tim@...>

I have an object, with a method that returns another object, or nil under

20 messages 2002/11/26

[#56719] each_with_index & collect_with_index? — Tim Bates <tim@...>

Array.each (and others) have an alternative .each_index which passes the index

34 messages 2002/11/26
[#56734] Re: each_with_index & collect_with_index? — dblack@... 2002/11/26

Hi --

[#56800] Re: each_with_index & collect_with_index? — Gordon Miller <gmiller@...> 2002/11/26

> As for the second.... I recently appointed myself President of

[#56845] Re: each_with_index & collect_with_index? — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...> 2002/11/27

Gordon Miller (gmiller@promisemark.com) wrote:

[#56849] Re: each_with_index & collect_with_index? — Jason Persampieri <helgaorg@...> 2002/11/27

> It would be really cool if, instead of having a

[#56851] Re: each_with_index & collect_with_index? — dblack@... 2002/11/27

Hi --

[#56772] RCR: Stack, Queue alias methods in Array — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

Rationale: Ruby arrays can be easily used as stacks and queues, but it's

46 messages 2002/11/26
[#56793] Re: RCR: Stack, Queue alias methods in Array — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2002/11/26

Hi,

[#56797] Re: RCR: Stack, Queue alias methods in Array — Nikodemus Siivola <tsiivola@...> 2002/11/26

[#56967] call-by-reference problem again — Shannon Fang <xrfang@...>

Hi there,

23 messages 2002/11/27
[#56970] Re: call-by-reference problem again — William Djaja Tjokroaminata <billtj@...> 2002/11/27

Shannon Fang <xrfang@hotmail.com> wrote:

[#56972] Re: call-by-reference problem again — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2002/11/27

William Djaja Tjokroaminata <billtj@y.glue.umd.edu> writes:

[#57146] Ruby ++, the one element and generators — "MikkelFJ" <mikkelfj-anti-spam@...>

21 messages 2002/11/30

[#57172] Numerical Ruby — Olivier Saut <Olivier.Saut@...>

Hi all,

14 messages 2002/11/30

Re: Unit Testing in Ruby for the (Absolute) Novice

From: Mark Wilson <mwilson13@...>
Date: 2002-11-25 21:05:20 UTC
List: ruby-talk #56678
Thank you for the very helpful comments, suggestions, stories and  
references.  In addition to the resources suggested, I also found this  
article by Peter McBreen on test-driven development with Ruby:

http://www.informit.com/isapi/product_id~%7BBCD66982-AE50-48AE-8677- 
DA8C16CED845%7D/session_id~%7BA9826E73-41ED-44B9-82A0-891FFB42A417%7D/ 
content/index.asp

David Naseby provided this reference:  
http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?UsingTestUnit.  I also liked the article  
on testing in reverse linked to at the bottom of this page.

Bill Kelly provided this reference to a newly published book:  
http://www.aw.com/catalog/academic/product/ 
1,4096,0321146530,00.html?type=PRE.

"Chris" <nemo@hellotree.com> provided very helpful advice, reproduced  
below, on how to get into unit testing and acquiring the testing  
mindset.  The following is what Chris said:

"I also am new to unit testing, and am struggling to figure out where  
to start.  My first introduction was in The Pragmatic Programmer (which  
I bought because I liked the pickaxe book so much, and I thought it was  
*at least* as good... get it!), which convinced me that unit testing  
was certainly a good idea.  Yep, I should definitely do that.  No  
question about
it.  But, uh... what do I do??

Whenever I would think about unit testing (which, I'm pretty sure, is  
rarely if ever done in the gaming industry, which I am coming to  
believe has the *worst* software practices around), I would think, "Oh,  
yes, it's a great thing, but this project is really an exception...  
games are just too complex for something like that.  Everything needs  
to interact with everything else... (how young I was then (last  
year)...)"

Then I thought I would try unit testing on some personal projects (as I  
was learning Ruby, actually), but again, it just didn't seem like it  
would work with this particular project... certainly this isn't the  
sort of program the Pragmatic Programmers were thinking of!

At this point, of course, I was starting to think that these were  
probably all perfect cases for testing, but that I just didn't know how  
to do it. (Hey, I was inexperienced, but I wasn't stupid.)  The problem  
was, I couldn't think of how you would unit test unless you used  
totally contrived examples... examples made specifically to show unit  
testing...

What I didn't see was that *that is exactly what you want*!  You want  
to turn your code into 'contrived examples' of testable code!  No, that  
lightbulb didn't really click until several years later (only about a  
month ago).

The best advice for getting your own personal lightbulb to click on:   
write your tests first.  Just a few small ones, nothing elaborate.   
Instead of coding to get the job done, try testing to see if the job  
*is* done, and then *just* code to satisfy your tests.  (Memorize that  
last sentence; it has become my mantra.)  That's the hard part for me:   
keeping my head up when I write my tests, and my head down when I write  
the "real" code.

My post-lightbulb realization:  You can't ****ing unit test if you  
don't have any ****ing units!  I really think that was my biggest  
problem:  the non-modular code I was starting with.  My solution, like  
I said, was to start with *no* code.  It really made a huge difference  
in my ability to see where I should go."

Chris also had some more advanced questions about unit testing, which  
were as follows:

"There are still plenty of things I don't know about it, though:

- How to test GUIs, for example?  (Well, if the code is modular enough,  
you can test everything but the GUI, which itself probably won't be  
such a source of bugs...)

- How does writing your unit tests first relate to rapid prototyping?   
How deep does one write one's initial tests?  Is it better to test at  
the higher levels first, using mock objects to work on, then go ahead  
and code that higher level (which seems to be what rapid prototyping  
would suggest I do)? Or should I keep trying to write all of my tests  
first (that being the bulk of the design of the project(?)), then just  
satisfy my tests right at the end?  (I guess it seems like the right  
way to test, but it doesn't seem like you prototype anything this way.)

- Is there a good description of using mock objects anywhere?  It  
sounds nice, but there's nowhere in my brain for it to click into, yet."


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