From: dblack@... Date: 2002-11-27T23:09:10+09:00 Subject: Re: Another elementary problem... Hi -- On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 christopher.j.meisenzahl@citicorp.com wrote: > Juergen, > > Thanks! > > I'm new to Ruby and in general I understand the difference between class scope > and instance scope. But I'm not clear on why the original code wasn't working. > Can you explain a little more? In the original, the code was doing something equivalent to this: class A def talk puts "Hello" end end A.talk # error The problem here is that, while instances of A respond to "talk", the class object A itself does not respond to "talk". That's another way of saying: class A does not have a class method called "talk", only an instance method. So, you could rewrite this as: class A def A.talk puts "Hello" end end A.talk # Hello If that answers your question, you can stop reading :-) But here's some more info about class methods, for your possible reading pleasure. Every object responds to certain messages (i.e., can call methods with certain names). Usually those methods are the instance methods defined by the object's class: class C def blah end end c = C.new c.blah However, it's also possible to add methods to individual objects: def c.speak puts "I'm a method defined only for this object" end Now, c will respond to "speak" -- but other instances of class C will not: c.speak # "I'm a method...." n = C.new n.speak # error This means that "speak" is a singleton method of c. OK... now look at this: class D def D.greet puts "Hi" end end D.greet # Hi Notice the similarity between the syntax involved in creating a new singleton method for c: def c.speak ... and creating a class method of class D; def D.greet ... In fact, these are essentially the same thing. In both cases, what's happening is that a singleton method is being added to a particular object. It just happens to be that in the second case, the object getting the new method is a Class object (as opposed to a String, an Array, an instance of MyClass, etc). So now D responds to "greet", just as c responds to "speak". In other words, the term "class method" is just a special term for something which you can do with any mutable object: namely, add a singleton method to it. It has a special name because in actual program design, class methods have a special role to play. But what they are, at heart, is singleton methods defined on objects, where those objects happen to be instances of a class called Class. The use of uppercase names (constants) for classes can obscure the fact that classes are just objects. Also, the usual style is to put class method definitions inside the class definition, which makes it look like they have some special status. But look at this: class E end # Defining "class method" outside of class definition: def E.greet puts "hi" end # Dispensing with the constant name for the class: var = E def var.talk puts "This method is defined outside the class definition" end var.talk # This method... E.talk # This method... var.greet # hi etc. You can see that some of the special treatment of classes -- constants as names, the separate notion of "class method" for their singleton methods -- is just that: special treatment. Underneath, a class is indeed an object. David -- David Alan Black home: dblack@candle.superlink.net work: blackdav@shu.edu Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav