From: matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) Date: 2002-11-26T13:03:39+09:00 Subject: Re: [FAQ] Why isn't 'x++' or 'x--' valid? Hi, In message "Re: [FAQ] Why isn't 'x++' or 'x--' valid?" on 02/11/26, "Pe�a, Botp" writes: |Matz indeed suggested long way back that this would be possible but only as |a syntax sugar (maybe preprocess it to .succ/.next/+=/-=). Considering a lot |of "surprises" lately, I would vote for this. | |The ++/-- has become a universal idiom for a lot of programmers, just like |"f*ck y*u" idiom has been known worldwide (heck even aborigines say it -pls |excuse my language, this is just stupid example). I guess you're captured by your languages too much. Neither C nor English is universal. I don't feel ++/-- fit in "Ruby Way", just because it cannot be explained by simple object model. Illusion from sugaring may confuse people afterwards. And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. -- Rev 10:10 matz.