From: "Martin J. Brown, Jr." <mjbjr@...>
Date: 2002-11-07T12:27:16+09:00
Subject: Re: PGP signatures

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On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:48:14 +0900
"Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@soyabean.com.au> wrote:

> From: "Carl Youngblood" <carl@ycs.biz>
> 
> 

  [snippage]

> Messages coming from Outlook is not the issue here.  It's PGP signatures, which
> are rendered in Outlook and Outlok Express (any others?) as either attachments,
> so you can't read the message directly - very annoying), or inline text
> signatures, which are unnecessary clutter.
> 
> The issue is independent of email clients used at either end,

Not exactly, as I "understand" it...        :)

One of the 'mutt' authors, a MIME RFC author as well, is a member of my LUG.
When I switched from 'pine' to 'mutt' about a year ago, I had many questions about
using 'pgp'/'gpg' with 'mutt'.  The upshot is, a signed message should be sent as
two attachments, body text and signature.  It's upto the client on the receiving
end to present the attachments as desired.

> although some data would be handy.  Since Oct 1, the PGP signed messages come from:
> 
>  INLINE
>   KMail 1.4.3 (Michael Libby, Holden Glova)
>   Mozilla (Lyle Johnson, Count Zero, Ben Schumacher)
>   Sylpheed 0.8.5 (Martin Brown)

Hmmm... I just started using 'sylpheed' recently...
looks like I'm going to have to check the preferences.

> 
>  ATTACHMENT
>   Mutt 1.4 (Paul Duncan, Eric Hodel, Philipp Meier)
> 
> It is interesting to see which email clients are producing the PGP
> signatures, since these clients are obviously adept at receiving them -
> without attachments or inline clutter.
> 
> What I do not know, and cannot determine, is how all the other clients in use
> out there handle these messages.

Both 'mutt' and 'sylpheed' check the signatures against the local public key ring,
(and optionally can retreive the key from the net), notify you of the result, and
present the text body to the user.  I forget exactly the 'pine' procedure, but
it does present the text body to the user.

> Gavin
> 
> PS. Paul, Eric, and Philipp: any chance you can switch to inline PGP
> signatures, at least for this list?  Come on, I know mutt can do anything!
> 

Isn't there a windows client that allows you to call the shots?

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