From: Amos <amos+lists.ruby-talk@...>
Date: 2002-11-08T00:23:58+09:00
Subject: Re: ATTN: Mailing list admin

>>>>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:46:32 +0900,
>>>>> Tom Gilbert <tom@linuxbrit.co.uk> (tg) writes:

tg> In most recent messages I'm seeing RCVD_IN_ORBZ showing up in the
tg> spamassassin header. Please remove the RCVD_IN_ORBZ check from your

Speaking of SpamAssassin, anybody given any thought to writing a
Ruby version?  Typically I hate the notion of reinventing the
wheel, but boy fiddling with SpamAssassin--or more specifically
Net::DNS--recently has reaffirmed that I am beginning to really,
and I mean really, hate Perl.  Sigh.

And while I'm venting to this already way so busy list, I sure hope
that as Ruby evolves, folks can come up with a way to have at least
a little better coherence than CPAN.  It seems like whenever I have
to install some Perl module, I get mired down in a mess whereby I
have to install a 100 million dependences.  One of these days I'm
fully expecting that while running CPAN interactively (damn, that's
scary), it will attempt to upgrade the OS on my box.  I mean, for
crying out load.  To think that I had to install HTML-Tagset before
HTML-Parser?  What the hell?  Can't folks agree to work on an HTML
library, and then develop all the pieces as a group so that the
end-user doesn't have to suffer because of poor project management
and coordination?  Please do not replicate this total chaos in Ruby.

I'll also add that while I haven't installed too many Ruby
extensions, so far I've found that to be far less painful than
fighting with CPAN.  I'm using both the LDAP and Oracle extensions
for our account management system, and they have been great.  I'm
using the BerkeleyDB extension for a variety of things, and it has
been great.  I'm also using the net/imap library to manage our Cyrus
IMAP/POP server.  I don't know, maybe I was just cranky when
fiddling with that Perl stuff, being away from my favorite Ruby for
too long.  ;-)

-- 
Amos