[#93964] perl6 grammar rules in ruby — Charles Comstock <cc1@...>

Has anyone taken a look at the idea of having embedded grammars in ruby

21 messages 2004/03/01

[#94023] Why's (Poignant) Guide to Ruby, Chapter Four: Little Leaves of Code — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

Just wanted everyone to know that Chapter Four of the (Poignant) Guide

15 messages 2004/03/01

[#94037] Rubyx OS (Ruby oriented linux distro) — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

I am pleased to announce the first public release of Rubyx, codename

39 messages 2004/03/02

[#94062] pickaxe with pics? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>

17 messages 2004/03/02

[#94068] dynamic assignment of instance variables — gv@... (Gerard A.W. Vreeswijk)

$ cat try.rb

19 messages 2004/03/02

[#94110] why are Hashes so unsorted? what's your solution? — Ruby Baby <ruby@...>

I try to avoid questions like "Why doesn't Ruby do what ___ does?"

14 messages 2004/03/03

[#94144] Mozilla gets support for other client-side languages in the future, how about Ruby? — Erik Terpstra <erik@...>

Interesting slides:

9 messages 2004/03/03

[#94190] rescue inside block -> syntax error — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

While reading this message:

15 messages 2004/03/04

[#94424] random range — Charles Comstock <cc1@...>

Why doesn't rand take an integer range and then generate a random number

23 messages 2004/03/06
[#94432] Re: random range — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/03/06

Charles Comstock wrote:

[#94434] Re: random range — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2004/03/06

Hal Fulton wrote:

[#94436] Re: random range — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2004/03/06

Hi --

[#94487] Looking for HTML templating system — Andreas Schwarz <usenet@...>

I am looking for a templating system for my forum

19 messages 2004/03/07

[#94517] proposal: class<<obj to invoke extend_object — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

'obj.extend' and 'class<<obj' are close cousins..

22 messages 2004/03/07

[#94612] RedCloth 2.0.2 -- A Textile Humane Web Text Generator — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

For your immediate perusal and swift renouncement:

10 messages 2004/03/09

[#94672] saving array — mopthisandthat@... (Phidippus)

After I do bunch of computations and create a huge array with bunch of

18 messages 2004/03/10

[#94686] Possibility of 2nd edition of _The Ruby Way_ — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Hello, all.

17 messages 2004/03/10

[#94760] convincing a webhost to support ruby — Mark Hubbart <discord@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2004/03/11

[#94813] Jruby 0.7.0 — Thomas E Enebo <enebo@...>

20 messages 2004/03/12
[#94815] Re: [ANN] Jruby 0.7.0 — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.ukl.yahoo.com> 2004/03/12

il Sat, 13 Mar 2004 02:33:49 +0900, Thomas E Enebo <enebo@acm.org> ha

[#94817] Re: [ANN] Jruby 0.7.0 — Thomas E Enebo <enebo@...> 2004/03/12

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, gabriele renzi defenestrated me:

[#94935] RubyGems 0.2.0 — Chad Fowler <chad@...>

The first public release of RubyGems (http://rubygems.rubyforge.org)

26 messages 2004/03/14

[#94985] GUI testing on unix — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

I am curious to if there exists any GUI testing packages for unix.

17 messages 2004/03/16

[#94998] RAA trouble and maintenance — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2004/03/16

[#95014] RAA - So much is broken — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...>

Hello,

15 messages 2004/03/16

[#95060] YAML tutorial — Matt Lawrence <matt@...>

Ok, I am so not a Ruby wizard. In fact, I don't do much development at

15 messages 2004/03/17

[#95098] groovy — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>

Groovy, a scripting language targeted for JVM, was mentioned in Slashdot

14 messages 2004/03/17

[#95155] Installer packages for MacOSX — Mark Hubbart <discord@...>

Hi, all

18 messages 2004/03/17

[#95190] Thinking about a date-matching algorithm... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

I did a little swapping of ideas with dblack on this. Now I'm

22 messages 2004/03/18

[#95200] Log4r 1.0.5 now with RubyGems option — Leon Torres <leon@...>

Greetings, I'm pleased to announce the release of Log4r 1.0.5. The

11 messages 2004/03/18

[#95230] Ruby and Mozilla — paul vudmaska <paul@...>

--- Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@adslhome.dk <http://us.f104.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=neoneye@adslhome.dk&YY=90525&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b>> wrote:

12 messages 2004/03/18

[#95290] calling outer-scope method of same name — "Bill Kelly" <billk@...>

Hi all!

16 messages 2004/03/18
[#95292] Re: calling outer-scope method of same name — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2004/03/18

Hi --

[#95340] Kwartz (2004-03-19) released — Makoto Kuwata <kwa@...>

Hi folks,

31 messages 2004/03/19
[#95367] Re: [ANN] Kwartz (2004-03-19) released — Andreas Schwarz <usenet@...> 2004/03/19

Hi,

[#95405] Re: [ANN] Kwartz (2004-03-19) released — Andreas Schwarz <usenet@...> 2004/03/19

Makoto Kuwata wrote:

[#95412] Re: [ANN] Kwartz (2004-03-19) released — Makoto Kuwata <kwa@...> 2004/03/19

Andreas,

[#95453] Re: [ANN] Kwartz (2004-03-19) released — Andreas Schwarz <usenet@...> 2004/03/20

Makoto Kuwata wrote:

[#95484] Re: [ANN] Kwartz (2004-03-19) released — Makoto Kuwata <kwa@...> 2004/03/21

[#95490] Re: [ANN] Kwartz (2004-03-19) released — Thomas Fini Hansen <beast@...> 2004/03/21

On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 11:39:26AM +0900, Makoto Kuwata wrote:

[#95518] Re: [ANN] Kwartz (2004-03-19) released — Andreas Schwarz <usenet@...> 2004/03/21

Makoto Kuwata wrote:

[#95553] Re: [ANN] Kwartz (2004-03-19) released — Andreas Schwarz <usenet@...> 2004/03/22

Makoto Kuwata wrote:

[#95386] Can $LOAD_PATH be relative? — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

24 messages 2004/03/19
[#95389] Re: Can $LOAD_PATH be relative? — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2004/03/19

In article <wsqk71gd188.fsf@io.com>, Jim Menard <jimm@io.com> wrote:

[#95398] Re: Can $LOAD_PATH be relative? — Patrick Bennett <patrick.bennett@...> 2004/03/19

Phil Tomson wrote:

[#95400] Re: Can $LOAD_PATH be relative? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2004/03/19

Hi --

[#95403] Re: Can $LOAD_PATH be relative? — Patrick Bennett <patrick.bennett@...> 2004/03/19

[#95434] converting javascript to ruby (nested methods) — yvon.thoravalNO-SPAM@... (Yvon Thoraval)

i have a script written in javascript and want to translate it into ruby

10 messages 2004/03/20

[#95517] What to gem? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2004/03/21

[#95560] Need some advice on PickAxe II — Dave Thomas <dave@...>

Folks:

74 messages 2004/03/22

[#95636] Tempfile consuming a lot of memory — thomass@... (Thomas)

I'm using a lot of Tempfile's and I have been made aware that they

17 messages 2004/03/23

[#95693] proposal - enforce lower_case for variables and methods — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

Ruby does already enforce CamelCase for class/modules.

29 messages 2004/03/24

[#95769] File.stat.size errors with file sizes over 2Gigs. — walter@...

File.stat('file_name').size returns erroneous file sizes when the

16 messages 2004/03/24

[#95782] Quick Introduction to RubyGems — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>

Hi folks,

17 messages 2004/03/24

[#95875] Errors with "make" step, while compiling ruby under AIX 5.2 — Ruby Ruby <ruby4lover@...>

I am wanted to install ruby 1.8.1 under AIX 5.2. During the installation, while doing the "make" part of it, the process abruptily ended with the following errors:

15 messages 2004/03/25
[#95883] Re: Errors with "make" step, while compiling ruby under AIX 5.2 — nobu.nokada@... 2004/03/26

Hi,

[#95918] Re: Errors with "make" step, while compiling ruby under AIX 5.2 — Ruby Ruby <ruby4lover@...> 2004/03/26

I am sorry to insist but this is important to me.

[#95960] Status of AOP in Ruby — Markus Jais <markusjais@...>

Hello

22 messages 2004/03/27

[#95984] deciding between ruby and python — "Serve Lau" <ik@...>

I'm trying to decide to learn either python or ruby. Are there fundamental

119 messages 2004/03/28
[#96006] Re: deciding between ruby and python — klausm0762@... (Klaus Momberger) 2004/03/28

"Serve Lau" <ik@detongiser.com> wrote in message news:<106dlen5mr97q76@corp.supernews.com>...

[#96566] Re: deciding between ruby and python — Ville Vainio <ville@...> 2004/04/05

[#96503] Re: deciding between ruby and python — Ville Vainio <ville@...> 2004/04/04

>>>>> "James" == James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@neurogami.com> writes:

[#96508] Re: deciding between ruby and python — Dan Doel <djd15@...> 2004/04/04

As you say, this whole thread has been done many times before.

[#96691] Re: deciding between ruby and python — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.ukl.yahoo.com> 2004/04/07

il Wed, 07 Apr 2004 05:35:39 GMT, dagbrown@LART.ca (Dave Brown) ha

[#95992] Madeleine 0.6 — Anders Bengtsson <ndrsbngtssn@...>

23 messages 2004/03/28

Suggested technical changes to L2P (Was: [ANN] Learn to Program -- A Tutorial for the Future Programmer) Reply-To:

From: "Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT" <jupp@...>
Date: 2004-03-01 23:47:57 UTC
List: ruby-talk #94031
Hi!

I think it makes sense to have a handy abbreviation for 'Learn to
Program'. L2P seems appropriate.

* Chris Pine:
> You need Apache set up to allow you to execute *.rbx files.

I'm using thttpd. It runs anything that is marked world executable 
and matches a CGI-specifying regexp. Cute feature :->

BTW: I would love to see that someone explains to me how to make
index.rbx a default start page for thttpd. I presently use this as a
workaround:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
<html>
<head><meta content="0;url=/index.rbx" http-equiv="refresh"></head>
<body><a href="index.rbx">go ahead...</a></body>
</html>

This issue does not have high priority because the above works good
enough and the intended target system is running Apache.

Let's come to the BUTs. It seems as if there are some preliminaries
before actually starting translation.

> Or, looking at my code, is there something I could do to make
> translation easier?

The first issue is not so much a translation but a portability one. 
You are using absolute URLs to refer to different parts of the
tutorial. This requires changes to the source as soon as the tutorial
is located elsewhere (due to whatever reason). A better solution is
using

    LINKFILE = "./index.rbx"
    LINKPATH = File.basename(LINKFILE)

And modifying the links appropiately (diff is attached).

Next issue is encoding. As far as I can see you only use iso-646-us
so it seems to be a good idea to change

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

into

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="us-ascii"?>

and adding

    meta('http-equiv' =>'content-type',
         :content=>'text/html; charset=us-ascii')

to the source. That better shows what to replace by the charset that
is actually used (be it utf-8, iso-8859-15, iso-2022-jp-2, or
koi8-r). utf-8 is too generic to decide wether it is a formal 
requirement or an actual charset.

Line length:

1. Normal text: Consider keeping it below 80 chars a line whenever
   possible (vim: 'set tw=79') - my fetish is called 'console' :-)

2. Source: Keep it below 70 characters a line. A number of browsers
   have default setups that require scrolling when  code lines are 
   longer than this.

On colors used: I am not sure if that still poses a problem but the
ones used are mostly not Web safe. Web save colors have 00, 33, 66,
99, CC, FF as their constituents. Netscape optimized GIFs use these 
colors (you perhaps did see the number 216 - that's 6 to the third).

Comment on diff:

'../L2P/Learning-To-Program-2004-02-29-22:12:13' is the snapshot 
taken (obvious date and time). 'index.rbx' is the updated version I 
will use as a basis for translation.

Now switching to translation mode until the empire of technical
problems strike back.

Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT
-- 
E-Mail: .--- ..- .--. .--. .--.-. --. -- -..- .-.-.- -.. .
http://oss.erdfunkstelle.de/ruby/    -     German comp.lang.ruby FAQ
http://rubyforge.org/users/jupp/     -     Ruby projects at Rubyforge

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--- ../L2P/Learning-To-Program-2004-02-29-22:12:13	Sun Feb 29 23:11:11 2004
+++ index.rbx	Mon Mar  1 15:43:01 2004
@@ -13,7 +13,8 @@
 require 'stringio'
 
 
-LINKADDR = "//pine.fm/LearnToProgram/"  #  was ENV['REDIRECT_URL']
+LINKFILE = "./index.rbx"
+LINKPATH = File.basename(LINKFILE)
 
 
 class TutorialWebPage
@@ -77,7 +78,7 @@
   
   def selfLink (chap = nil)
     #  REQUEST_URI includes "?Chapter=Foo"
-    LINKADDR+'?Chapter='+(chap ? getChapter(chap) : '')
+    LINKFILE+'?Chapter='+(chap ? getChapter(chap) : '')
   end
   
   def makeLink (name, methodName)
@@ -490,8 +491,8 @@
       END_PARAGRAPH
     end
     ul do
-      li {'<a href="'+LINKADDR+'SciTEGlobal.properties">Global Properties</a>'}
-      li {'<a href="'+LINKADDR+'ruby.properties">Ruby Properties</a>'}
+      li {'<a href="'+LINKPATH+'SciTEGlobal.properties">Global Properties</a>'}
+      li {'<a href="'+LINKPATH+'ruby.properties">Ruby Properties</a>'}
     end
     para do <<-END_PARAGRAPH
       It would also be a good idea to create a folder somewhere to keep
@@ -4648,7 +4649,7 @@
     end
     para do <<-END_PARAGRAPH
       The pages you see (all valid XHTML 1.1) are generated by
-      <a href="#{LINKADDR}?ShowTutorialCode=true">this Ruby program</a>.
+      <a href="#{LINKFILE}?ShowTutorialCode=true">this Ruby program</a>.
       It may not be the prettiest code around, but
       it has some neat features.  For example, all of the
       code samples are actually being run every time you view
@@ -4757,11 +4758,12 @@
     tocString = 'Table of Contents'
     tutTitle = 'Learn to Program'
     
-    puts '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>'
+    puts '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="us-ascii"?>'
     puts '<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">'
     html(:xmlns=>'http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml', 'xml:lang'=>'en') do
       head do
-        link(:rel=>'stylesheet', :type=>'text/css', :href=>LINKADDR+'tutorial.css')
+        link(:rel=>'stylesheet', :type=>'text/css', :href=>LINKPATH+'tutorial.css')
+    meta('http-equiv' =>'content-type', :content=>'text/html; charset=us-ascii')
         title do
           tutTitle + ', by Chris Pine'
         end

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