From: Ruby Baby Date: 2004-03-11T14:04:55+09:00 Subject: Re: Possibility of 2nd edition of _The Ruby Way_ I *loved* The Ruby Way book, and am excited for an update. But man all these topics brought up here make me hungry to learn about these features NOW. How likely do you think it would be that perhaps the same number of people that would buy The Ruby Way 2nd Edition would cough up that same amount of money to help support a GREAT well-done professional online Ruby Tutorial site if there was one? Something with a PayPal tip jar, that became a GREAT place to learn Ruby from scratch? I remember learning SO much about PHP from these sites: http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/PHP/Tutorials/ ... because there were so many "Follow me and do exactly this" tutorials. Those really help in the beginning, no matter what level you're at with other languages. As I've been learning Ruby, so many times I'm pointed to a page that looks like this: http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/rdoc/1.9/ ... and I say, "Oh. [sigh....]". Yes it's possible to learn from those pages, slowly, but so much nicer to have a well-written tutorial to get you started with some examples so you can dig into API docs later once you understand the context. There are so many odd quirky unfinished ugly abandoned Ruby websites out there, it seems to mis-represent the enthusiasm so many of us have for this beautiful language. I wish there was a beautiful tutorial site that made Ruby just irresistable to learn.