[#98950] Strange behaviour of Strings in Range — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hi,
Hi,
[#98965] Don't understand hashing... — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hi,
[#98975] Why no Proc##[]=() ? Why no Proc##replace() ? — Jean-Hugues ROBERT <jean_hugues_robert@...>
Hi,
I'm not sure what your proposal means.
About class Proc; def []=(*args); self[*args] end end and the value of
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 05:18:09PM +0900, Jean-Hugues ROBERT wrote:
At 22:10 02/05/2004 +0900, you wrote:
I understand the concept of an lvalue in assignment. I just don't think it
About hypothetical class Proc; def []=(*args) self[*args] end end
On Monday 03 May 2004 7:54 am, Jean-Hugues ROBERT wrote:
Warning: I believe this thread of msgs is rather academic. Because I
[#98980] Ruby Newbie (ooh, that rhymes!) - When do I use do/end, when {}? — glenn_m_smith@... (Glenn)
Hello all
Mark Hubbart wrote:
Jim Weirich wrote:
On Sunday, May 2, 2004, 9:53:40 AM, James wrote:
Gavin Sinclair wrote:
Hi --
Hi David, Robert & all...
[#99023] ruby 1.8 differences? — glenn_m_smith@... (Glenn)
Can anybody point me at a list of what's changed in Ruby
[#99045] ANNOUNCE: vflow 0.1 beta — jm <jm@...>
Module: vflow
[#99053] print <<XXX parses some text in scope ending with XXX -- Why? — "Richard Lionheart" <NoOne@...>
As I read Thomas&Hunt p. 205, Ruby should build a quoted string with the
[#99062] Re: rubygem BUG — "Mehr, Assaph (Assaph)" <assaph@...>
[#99102] model for my problem (network simulator) — Gergely Kontra <kgergely@...>
Hello!
[#99105] What do you use Ruby for? — glenn_m_smith@... (Glenn)
OK, the more I read about Ruby (currently on page 29 of the FAQ,
Glenn wrote:
[#99113] $SAFE = 3.5? — Guillaume Marcais <guslist@...>
Is there anyway to have the same restriction that $SAFE=4 would give
il Tue, 4 May 2004 04:14:06 +0900, Guillaume Marcais <guslist@free.fr>
Mark Hubbart wrote:
Hi,
>>>>> "H" == Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@ai.kyutech.ac.jp> writes:
Hi,
>>>>> "H" == Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@ai.kyutech.ac.jp> writes:
[#99119] YAML vs. Marshal — dejaspam@... (Bill Atkins)
Is there any reason to use Marshal instead of YAML? Is there anything
Bill Atkins wrote:
Joel VanderWerf wrote:
why the lucky stiff wrote:
Hal Fulton wrote:
On Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 3:35:08 AM, why wrote:
Gavin Sinclair wrote:
On Wed, 5 May 2004, Joel VanderWerf wrote:
[#99134] rubygems implementation question — Charles Comstock <cc1@...>
I was curious why the code in installer.rb in ruby gems was setup like this?
[#99136] IO::write — Charles Comstock <cc1@...>
Why is there only an IO::read, and no equivalent IO::write that takes a
Hi,
[#99173] Can a program be made to drop into irb? — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
I'd like to be able to write a program that, halfway through
On Tue, 4 May 2004, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
[#99181] Re: Strange behaviour of Strings in Range — "Martin Elzen" <martinelzen@...>
Hi everyone.
[#99183] One class per file — "rolo" <rohitlodha@...>
Hi
[#99189] Using TkTree - Desperately need help — dejaspam@... (Bill Atkins)
Can anyone give me a step-by-step method of using TkTree on Win32? I
[#99196] madeleine gem problem (or rubygem one) — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.ukl.yahoo.com>
Hi gurus and nubys,
[#99204] What so special about PostgreSQL and other RDBMS? — "Sarah Tanembaum" <sarah.tanembaum@...>
Beside its an opensource and supported by community, what's the fundamental
"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote
[#99205] Gnome2 panel applets? — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>
Is it possible to create panel applets for Gnome2 using the ruby-gnome2
[#99244] Re: RubyGem behind an authenticating proxy — "Mehr, Assaph (Assaph)" <assaph@...>
> I can't offer any real help; I can only say that RubyGems' proxy
[#99270] Is Ruby Top 1 of Programming Languages that are Loved? — "Park Heesob" <phasis68@...>
Hi all,
In article <c7b98v$4b7$1@orkan.itea.ntnu.no>,
Mark Hubbart <discord@mac.com> wrote:
In article <83173408.0405051506.5db85fe6@posting.google.com>,
* Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> [0554 02:54]:
On Thu, 6 May 2004, Dick Davies wrote:
il Fri, 7 May 2004 00:05:03 +0900, "Curt Hibbs" <curt@hibbs.com> ha
Ummm, folks, this is getting a bit tedious. You're "preaching to the
Matt Lawrence wrote:
On Fri, 7 May 2004, Curt Hibbs wrote:
[#99288] signaling another thread — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
[#99294] 0.0 sign — Elias Athanasopoulos <elathan@...>
Hello!
[#99324] REXML bug? — Makoto Kuwata <kwa@...>
[#99326] RAA error - can't dup NilClass — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
When I try to enter my project page
Hi,
Hi, again,
"NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@keynauts.com> wrote:
Hi,
Hi!
I'm not familiar with rubygems, but raa is the ruby equiv of cpan
[#99334] vim and make — Doug Kearns <djkea2@...>
We're having a bit of a discussion over on vim-ruby-devel about the
[#99352] iterator-0.7 — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
homepage:
[#99354] readlines — Martin Uruz <udlduz@...>
hi
[#99399] DRb Connection Closed Error?!?!?!? — "Ken Hilton" <kenosis@...>
Greetings,
[#99403] mod_ruby: Consequences of shared interpreter — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
After more than two years, I'm looking at mod_ruby again.
[#99438] What is Borges? — dejaspam@... (Bill Atkins)
Can someone please explain to me what Borges does? Its home page
* Bill Atkins <dejaspam@batkins.com> [0534 01:34]:
On Fri, 7 May 2004 19:58:29 +0900, Dick Davies wrote
* Kirk Haines <khaines@enigo.com> [0526 15:26]:
On Sat, 8 May 2004 05:56:09 +0900, Dick Davies wrote
Kirk Haines (khaines@enigo.com) wrote:
Dick Davies wrote:
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Kaspar Schiess wrote:
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[#99456] ruby replacement for net::patricia needed — jm <jm@...>
I'm looking for the ruby equivalent of the perl Net::Patricia module
[#99477] Encoding with TCPSocket — Michael Mueller <mueller@...>
Hello!
[#99498] test unit & singleton — Guillaume Marcais <guslist@...>
How do you get a fresh copy of a singleton between 2 unit test? It
That's why you want to avoid singletons as much as possible when it
[#99515] DBI, OCI8 and the 'tables' method — djberg96@... (Daniel Berger)
Hi all,
[#99527] Ruby Installer for Windows: use of Win32OLE bug causes crash — Jos Backus <jos@...>
This is with the latest Ruby Installer for Windows, 181-13-rc2.
[#99583] Ruby Installer for Windows 1.8.1-13 final — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>
The Ruby Installer 1.8.1-13 (final) for Windows has been released and
I'm pleased to announce the kickoff of RubyForge project called "Why Ruby?"
> I'm pleased to announce the kickoff of RubyForge project called "Why
Curt Hibbs wrote:
I have uploaded a release candidate for Ruby Installer that was built using
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 04:45:43 +0900, Curt Hibbs <curt@hibbs.com> wrote:
Lyle Johnson wrote:
The original release candidate that I posted earlier today did not include
RC3 adds back the missing support for OpenGL. There were no other changes,
> RC3 adds back the missing support for OpenGL. There were no other changes,
Hello Curt,
Hi,
Hi,
nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
Hi,
il Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:46:30 +0900, "Curt Hibbs" <curt@hibbs.com> ha
Hello Curt,
Lothar Scholz wrote:
[#99597] How to get the last 5 elements of an array? — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi,
Hi --
[#99636] Can't build with Panther — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
Hi
[#99644] My favorite RCRs... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
This is just to stir things up a little. Go to rcrchive.net and vote
[#99647] Code for a transparent proxy? — Michael Vondung <mvondung@...>
I'm dabbling in something that I have little to no understanding of
[#99660] interface 0.1.0 — djberg96@... (Daniel Berger)
Hi all,
[#99680] rubygarden homepage hacks — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
On daily basis the homepage at rubygarden is being edited.
On Mon, 10 May 2004 07:24:03 +0900, Simon Strandgaard
Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@adslhome.dk> wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2004 17:55:44 +0900, Jean-Hugues ROBERT wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2004, Kristof Bastiaensen wrote:
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 01:13:16AM +0900, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote:
[#99681] Roundup of new RubyGems features — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi folks,
[#99686] running gem — Paul Vudmaska <paul@...>
I'm testing a new host. All is not so great. It is bsd. I'm kind of new
[#99734] in search of a compelling reason to use ruby.... — Ryan Paul <segphault@...>
i'm a python programmer, and I have recently been hearing a lot about
In article <pan.2004.05.10.10.37.41.800624@sbcglobal.net>,
[#99738] redcloth and dynamic content — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>
[#99764] safe eval? — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
Ara.T.Howard wrote:
>>>>> "F" == Florian Gross <flgr@ccan.de> writes:
ts wrote:
>>>>> "F" == Florian Gross <flgr@ccan.de> writes:
On Wed, 12 May 2004, ts wrote:
ts wrote:
>>>>> "F" == Florian Gross <flgr@ccan.de> writes:
[#99775] RCR: Unique Object for Each source file — dejaspam@... (Bill Atkins)
Each Ruby .rb file is currently executed within the class Object. So
[#99816] Web, Cookies and Sessions — "Dmitry V. Sabanin" <sdmitry@...>
Hi,
"Kirk Haines" <khaines@enigo.com> writes:
On Wednesday 12 May 2004 03:03, Eric Schwartz wrote:
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 10:52:12AM +0900, Dmitry V. Sabanin wrote:
[#99850] Break points IN ruby code? — "Ken Hilton" <kenosis@...>
I've been having trouble setting break points in certain ruby constructs
[#99851] SciTE and Scintilla — Kaspar Schiess <eule@...>
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[#99854] Proposal: Object#send(nil) -> self — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
A quick one. I see some sense in Object#send accepting 'nil' as the
[#99879] Strange regexp behaviour in gsub — Kristof Bastiaensen <kristof@...>
Hi,
On Wed, 12 May 2004 08:15:28 +0900, Joel VanderWerf wrote:
[#99889] Ruby on AIX 4.3.3 — Matt Lawrence <matt@...>
I just built Ruby 1.8.1 on an AIX 4.3.3 box using gcc. When I try to run
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Mark Hubbart wrote:
Hi Matt,
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Zane Dodson wrote:
[#99892] popen3 on windows — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
[#99898] wikiwiki and authentication — jm <jm@...>
Looking a ruwiki (and others) it seems there is a great range of wikis
[#99945] Recommendations (Ruby making my head swim) — Mike Rhodes <rhodes553@...>
I recently bought "Programming Ruby" and set out to learn the language
On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:10:19 -0400, Mike Rhodes wrote:
[#99960] PStore vs. YAML::Store — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
Ara.T.Howard wrote:
[#99966] Major Addition Bug? — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>
Doing this:
>>>>> "S" == Sean O'Dell <sean@celsoft.com> writes:
On Wednesday 12 May 2004 09:53, ts wrote:
Sean O'Dell wrote:
Hal Fulton wrote:
I guess, you guys are missing the point,
Mohammad Khan wrote:
[#100032] are there any ruby IDEs? — Ryan Paul <segphault@...>
I use vim most of the time, but i'm curious if there are any
il Wed, 12 May 2004 21:06:22 GMT, Ryan Paul <segphault@sbcglobal.net>
il Thu, 13 May 2004 10:15:29 +0200, "E.-R. Bruecklmeier"
[#100051] 100000th ruby-talk post! — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hi --
[#100058] nasty regexp problem — sera@... (Francis Hwang)
Hi all,
[#100093] How to make combinations of an array to produce all possible expressions? — Erik Terpstra <erik@...>
I have an array 'conds', which contains some sub-expressions for an
[#100136] Ruby's Best -- Please Help — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>
On the "Why Ruby?" project wiki (http://whyruby.rubyforge.org/), I am trying
If you were an early visitor to:
Curt Hibbs wrote:
[#100137] First Presentation Posted to Why Ruby! — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>
Assaph Mehr just posted the first presentation to Why Ruby
In article <EAENKKNOJPMNCDMLDOMLKEHHEFAA.curt@hibbs.com>,
> If I were a Ruby Newbie just coming into the language and community I
Phil Tomson wrote:
[#100147] Ruby productivity question — "Its Me" <itsme213@...>
After a moderate amount of quite enjoyable time working with Ruby, I find
[#100182] C++ Exception compatibility idea — Asfand Yar Qazi <im_not_giving_it_here@..._hate_spam.com>
Hi,
In article <40A3E539.2010204@hypermetrics.com>,
On Fri, 14 May 2004 08:23:51 +0900, Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:
I'm trying to install Ruby's readline module on OS X and am having the
On Friday, 14 May 2004 at 8:23:51 +0900, Phil Tomson wrote:
Jim Freeze wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2004 08:23:51 +0900
[#100192] mahoro-0.1 — Shu-yu Guo <shu@...>
Mahoro is a (very) simple and straightforward interface to the libmagic
[#100193] subclasses of string as hash keys — Matthias Georgi <matti_g@...>
Hi,
[#100220] Exploratory testing with Ruby — Brian Marick <marick@...>
I wrote an article introducing testers to Ruby by way of showing how
[#100251] ruby and gnome-canvas — Ryan Paul <segphault@...>
I have been experimenting with the ruby gnome bindings, and I have found a
[#100273] Regexp Error? — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...>
What's wrong here?
[#100295] Re: Regexp Error? — Michael Campbell <michael_s_campbell@...>
ts wrote:
>>>>> "M" == Michael Campbell <michael_s_campbell@yahoo.com> writes:
ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:
>>>>> "S" == Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@adslhome.dk> writes:
On Fri, 14 May 2004 23:21:27 +0900
[#100325] Re: Please revisit Ruby's Best and vote for additions — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>
James Britt wrote:
On Sat, 15 May 2004 05:58:43 +0900, Sascha Ebach wrote:
Curt Hibbs wrote:
[#100333] getc windows != linux — Roeland Moors <roelandmoors@...>
I'm trying to communicate with a program (gnucap) using ruby.
[#100345] Recursion depth — Kevin Bullock <kbullock@...>
Take the following two recursive implementations of Euclid's algorithm,
[#100382] profiling ruby extensions — Elias Athanasopoulos <elathan@...>
Hello!
[#100395] Need Help Selecting a GUI — dejaspam@... (Bill Atkins)
As anyone can tell by looking at the topics of my recent posts, I'm
[#100411] GET-parameters an local vars — Dirk Einecke <dirk.einecke@...>
Hi.
[#100431] error in reg ex parser of 1.6.3 and 1.8.1? — "Christian Kaiser" <chk@...>
I would assume this to be an error:
[#100452] Singleton classes — "rolo" <rohitlodha@...>
Hi
[#100461] Ruby on Rails — Matt Lawrence <matt@...>
Very neat presentation, it kept me up way too late last night watching it.
> One thought that occurred to me while I was watching the video is that
On Saturday, 22 May 2004 at 23:15:38 +0900, David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
[#100463] Spam attack on Ruby-Garden — Carsten Eckelmann <careck@...42.com>
Hi everybody,
[#100469] Is Ruby the Language for Me? — n.koren@... (Nathan Koren)
Greetings!
[#100497] Why do #dup and #clone behave differently with respect to instance methods — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...>
>> class Foo;end
[#100500] RCR: More enumerator functionality — Kristof Bastiaensen <kristof@...>
Hi,
[#100502] Method overloading — imodev@...
Hi all,
[#100510] Object#copy [rcr?] — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
[#100511] How to duck type? - the psychology of static typing in Ruby — Tim Bates <tim@...>
Hi all,
Broken record time:
Robert Klemme wrote:
"Robert Klemme" <bob.news@gmx.net> wrote in message news:<2gs1pcF65u2uU1@uni-berlin.de>...
On Mon, 17 May 2004, Tim Bates wrote:
John Carter wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Tim Bates wrote:
John Carter wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 21:56:52 +0900, Dave Thomas wrote:
On Thu, 20 May 2004 03:43:22 +0900, Dave Thomas wrote:
Marek Janukowicz wrote:
Hal Fulton wrote:
[#100526] How to a copy a file ? — "Florent 'flure' C." <flurePASDESPAM@...>
Hello
[#100573] Highlighting for unit testing output (console) — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
I'll personally award three kudos points to anyone who implements a patch
[#100579] Re: CSV bug? — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Nahi aka NAKAMURA, Hiroshi [mailto:nahi@keynauts.com] humbly replied:
[#100589] writable — paul@... (paul vudmaska)
Thanks to the help of a kind rubyist i'm able to write a script for
[#100613] FoX: removing widgets — Yuri Leikind <y.leikind@...>
Hello all,
Yuri Leikind wrote:
On Wed, 19 May 2004 08:43:49 +0900
Yuri Leikind wrote:
I won't ask which is better, since I've just read some of the colorful
[#100621] Problem using YAML — Carol Almquist <calmquist@...>
I am using ruby 1.8.1 and yaml to store data records. After a few minutes I
[#100629] Newbie installation problem: libraries? — Paul Emmons <pemmons@...>
I have recently installed ruby-1.8.1 on my Mandrake Linux system.
[#100640] Sprites in RUDL — glenn_m_smith@... (Glenn)
My attempt at writing PACMAN was going smoothly but now I've stalled.
[#100649] Windows desktop app w/ simple db; how? — "Kirk Haines" <khaines@...>
Imagine that you had a very simple web based application. It queries some
>
Carl Youngblood wrote:
[#100653] Zero is true ... whoda thunk? — "Richard Lionheart" <NoOne@...>
Hi,
Richard Lionheart wrote:
On Wed, 19 May 2004 06:34:54 +0900, Mark Sparshatt wrote:
Claus Spitzer wrote:
Jamis Buck <jgb3@email.byu.edu> writes:
[#100676] RMagick jp2 problem — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
[#100677] RCR: UNIX credentials — Guillaume Marcais <guslist@...>
To get a feel before submitting a real RCR:
Hi,
[#100678] Re: CSV bug? — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Gavin Sinclair [mailto:gsinclair@soyabean.com.au] happily wrote:
[#100690] Re: Zero is true ... whoda thunk? — David Naseby <david.naseby@...>
>-----Original Message-----
[#100691] Re: Zero is true ... whoda thunk? — David Naseby <david.naseby@...>
>-----Original Message-----
David Naseby (david.naseby@eonesolutions.com.au) wrote:
nonzero? returned nil instead of false for me. Shouldn't it return false?
[#100699] IronPython: A fast Python implementation for .NET and Mono — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)
Hey
[#100721] irb or xterm crash with UTF-8 — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
server> irb
[#100726] Arguments and formal variables — Angel Martin <angel@...>
In first place I sorprised with te behavior of formal variables inside a
[#100735] UDP Asynchrone connection problems — <greg.burri@...2000.ch>
Hi all !
[#100793] Fortran Format? — qubert@... (Qubert)
OK, I have an algorithm that I created to format a series of numbers
[#100808] bad maths — Martin larsson <morg@...>
Hi
[#100817] Re: How to duck type? - the psychology of static typing in Ruby — David Naseby <david.naseby@...>
>-----Original Message-----
[#100837] Re: ODBC connection string for MS-Access — Shashank Date <shanko_date@...>
That worked ... thanks a million Joao !!!
[#100839] Where to download FXRuby library; where to put it; RUBYLIB, RUBYPATH env. vars — "Richard Lionheart" <NoOne@...>
Hi,
[#100857] Multicasting with Ruby? — Daemon Le <dle@...>
Hi,
[#100862] Ruby's builtin Datastructures — Brian Schroeder <spam0504@...>
Hello all,
Thanks for your answer. I should have looked in the raa by myself. Just a
Brian Schroeder wrote:
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 09:45:12PM +0900, Simon Strandgaard wrote:
[#100863] Ruby/DBI 0.0.23 — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hi,
[#100867] seraching backward in files — Patrick Gundlach <clr1.10.randomuser@...>
Dear ruby hackers,
[#100886] Files ugly clone — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
I want to clone a filedescriptor, but no matter
[#100892] Re: Zero is true ... whoda thunk? — "Mills Thomas (app1tam)" <app1tam@...>
-> -----Original Message-----
[#100893] Include into class after instance is created — Brian Schroeder <spam0504@...>
Hello,
[#100910] make File#dup intuitive — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
position is not copied.. try this example for yourself
Hi,
nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
Hi,
[#100922] vuby - VM for Ruby — "rolo" <rohitlodha@...>
Hi all,
[#100924] Re: vuby - VM for Ruby — "Gavri Savio Fernandez" <Gavri_F@...>
> From: rolo [mailto:rohitlodha@hotwireindia.com]
[#100926] Overriding "", [], and {} — dejaspam@... (Bill Atkins)
Is there any way to cause "", [], and {} to have different behaviors.
[#100962] Re: CSV bug? — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Nahi aka NAKAMURA, Hiroshi [mailto:nahi@keynauts.com] wrote:
Hi,
I have begun work on a version of the One-Click Ruby Installer for Mac
[#101001] ISAAC Random Number Generator — "Kirk Haines" <khaines@...>
Iowa includes a class, Iowa::ISAAC, which is a pure ruby implementation of
[#101017] Is it possible to call functions from different scripts in a Ruby script ? — Axel Etzold <aetzold@...>
Dear experienced Rubyists,
[#101019] begging for a hint in app design — Benny <linux@...>
dear list,
[#101038] more mysql drivel — Paul Vudmaska <paul@...>
so if you are not interested delete please.
[#101070] Instiki markup — "Dave Burt" <burtdav@...>
I'm not bagging Instiki. It's cool. RedCloth, BlueCloth or RDoc are all very
[#101071] Concerning version numbers... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
A few people in recent weeks have been bemoaning the fact that software
Trailing decimal places would serve the same purpose.
Nicholas Van Weerdenburg wrote:
On Sunday, May 23, 2004, 1:37:26 PM, Hal wrote:
What about those who use both?
This is an interesting discussion, as it's something that I have vacillated
[#101086] Segfault with win32ole, WMI and structs — djberg96@... (Daniel Berger)
Hi all,
[#101094] separate a HTML-tag in a hash — Dirk Einecke <dirk.einecke@...>
Hi.
Dirk Einecke said:
Hi.
[#101104] Emacs Ruby-Mode — Charles Comstock <cc1@...>
Was something changed recently in emacs ruby mode in the way it parses lines
[#101110] Ruby for educational purposes and localization — Laurent Julliard <laurent__no__@__spam__moldus.org>
All,
il Sun, 23 May 2004 13:53:59 +0200, Laurent Julliard
gabriele renzi wrote:
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 01:41:35AM +0900, Hal Fulton wrote:
[#101144] compiling mmap? — Mark Hubbart <discord@...>
Hi,
>>>>> "M" == Mark Hubbart <discord@mac.com> writes:
>>>>> "M" == Mark Hubbart <discord@mac.com> writes:
>>>>> "M" == Mark Hubbart <discord@mac.com> writes:
[#101146] mysql-ruby or ruby-mysql? — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
We're currently using:
[#101151] Deutschsprachige Mailingliste — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hallo,
[#101160] an idea regarding map — Ryan Paul <segphault@...>
just some syntactic nitpicking:
[#101165] make faster Richards benchmark — dlissett0@... (Duncan Lissett)
I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to make a faster Ruby
[#101170] Which free windows debugger? — glenn_m_smith@... (Glenn)
Am I right in thinking FreeRIDE doesn't support 1.8.1 for debugging,
[#101174] mysql-ruby please help!!!!!! — Martin Uruz <udlduz@...>
hi
[#101176] Latest Ruby Stable Snapshot — Charles Comstock <cc1@...>
On the latest stable snapshot I got this error running the test suite. I
[#101198] YAML Segmentation fault while parsing 2M EUC file. — "Zev Blut" <rubyzbibd@...>
Hello,
>>>>> "Z" == Zev Blut <rubyzbibd@ubit.com> writes:
On Mon, 24 May 2004 23:56:35 +0900, ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:
[#101214] Why have a Symbol class? — "rolo" <rohitlodha@...>
Hi
On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 01:01:25AM +0900, rolo wrote:
I am having a small dillema. In a program I and a friend are writing I am
[#101226] Concerning package names — djberg96@... (Daniel Berger)
All,
Daniel Berger wrote:
I think perhaps the point being for in the Ruby-centric repositories
Interesting topic.
[#101228] Ruby on Rails questions — Carl Youngblood <carl@...>
I'm really interested in seeing Ruby on Rails. As far as I can tell it
[#101230] FXRuby widget suggesttion anybody? — Phil Roberts <philrob@...>
I'm looking to create a simple info grid such as the one shown in the
[#101249] How to pp-enable a class? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
Are there good docs or even a tutorial on how to enable a class
[#101250] Webrick & HOWTO type docs? — "Kirk Haines" <khaines@...>
I think I know the answer to this already, but....
Kirk Haines (khaines@enigo.com) wrote:
[#101253] RCR? change Proc#inspect to show start..end lines — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
[#101274] pp and (my) sstruct — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
OK, I've narrowed the problem down a little further.
Hi --
David Alan Black wrote:
In article <40B29029.4080108@hypermetrics.com>,
Tanaka Akira wrote:
[#101282] mod_ruby/eruby for mswin32 for Ruby 1.8.1/Apache2.0.49 — Phil Wilson <canuckdba@...>
Does anybody have a solution for mod_ruby/eruby binaries for
[#101291] Ruby ftp class help — "Greg Brondo" <greg@...>
Ok. I seem to be the one to use the "not-so-well-written" classes in the
[#101292] Numeric#of — "Ara.T.Howard" <ahoward@...>
Hi,
On Tue, 25 May 2004, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hal Fulton wrote:
Hi --
On May 25, 2004, at 5:08 AM, David Alan Black wrote:
il Wed, 26 May 2004 06:28:32 +0900, Harry Ohlsen <harryo@zip.com.au>
[#101329] separating ruby-talk from comp.lang.ruby? — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hi --
David Alan Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:
In article <m3brkcda7g.fsf@wobblini.net>,
Hi --
Wrote "David A. Black" <dblack@wobblini.net>, on Wed, May 26, 2004 at 03:15:03AM +0900:
Hi --
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 09:55, David A. Black wrote:
Sean O'Dell wrote:
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 11:42, Hal Fulton wrote:
Sean O'Dell wrote:
[#101360] ruby-dev summary 23459-23562 — Minero Aoki <aamine@...>
Hi all,
* Multiple assignment takes care of only Values objects.
Minero Aoki wrote:
>>>>> "F" == Florian Gross <flgr@ccan.de> writes:
On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 05:52:02PM +0900, ts wrote:
>>>>> "P" == Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com> writes:
On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 10:54:32PM +0900, ts wrote:
>>>>> "P" == Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com> writes:
On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 11:07:27PM +0900, ts wrote:
[#101369] defining condititions — Florian Weber <csshsh@...>
hi!
On Wed, 26 May 2004, Florian Weber wrote:
[#101382] Enumerable#group_by — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hi,
[#101387] rb_frame_last_func() — Elias Athanasopoulos <elathan@...>
Hello!
[#101424] 3 yaml questions... — Martin Pirker <crf@...>
Hi.... I need help :-/
[#101437] net::imap non RFC compliance? — Dany Cayouette <danyc@...>
Greetings,
[#101457] Checking that an URL exists — "Imobach Gonz疝ez Sosa" <imodev@...>
Hi all,
[#101496] nil.id #=> 4 ?!?!?! — John Platte <john.platte@...>
Subject line says it all: nil.id #=> 4 !!!
[#101513] ot -bday (was RE: [RCR] Numeric#of) — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Simon Strandgaard [mailto:neoneye@adslhome.dk] wrote:
"Pe, Botp" <botp@delmonte-phil.com> wrote:
[#101522] WEBrick and FastCGI response — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
Reply-To:
Hi Jim,
Hello,
[#101527] Limiting Memory consumed by Ruby — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hi,
[#101530] RubySharp and MorphR — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi,
[#101545] Mutex re-entrancy — "Martin Hart" <martin@...>
Hi all,
[#101558] Web APIs — Aredridel <aredridel@...>
I've been working with web programming for a while now, and I've yet to
[#101560] Re: separating ruby-talk from comp.lang.ruby? — "Mills Thomas (app1tam)" <app1tam@...>
Here, here, hear, hear. No NNTP here.
Hi --
Hi --
Hi --
Sorry everyone, testing again.... small meaningless tweak to
>>>>> "D" == David A Black <dblack@wobblini.net> writes:
Hi --
David A. Black wrote:
[#101572] true.respond_to?("clone") — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>
TrueClass responds to "clone" but when you call it, the method just throws an
[#101582] Re: true.respond_to?("clone") — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>
On Thursday 27 May 2004 15:05, David A. Black wrote:
[#101591] Calling global method — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>
How do you call a global method from a module method where there is another
[#101635] Visitor Pattern in Ruby — Charles Comstock <cc1@...>
I recently wrote a small compiler in java in which we used the visitor
[#101650] TkMenubar + Keyboard Shortcut — mhm26@... (matt)
Is there any easy way to do keyboard short cuts with tkmenubar /
[#101674] Andreas' practical language comparison — "Georgy" <no.mail@...>
Hi all!
I'll volunteer for some of the GUI stuff....Any specific timeframe we are
Zach Dennis wrote:
I've never used wxRuby. I'll print off some of it's documentation before I
[#101690] http://www.ruby-lang.org down? — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
[#101701] enviroment variable for extensions — Elias Athanasopoulos <elathan@...>
Hello!
[#101713] segfault with rb_eval_string() — Elias Athanasopoulos <elathan@...>
Hello!
Hi,
[#101715] Re: Calling global method — "Austin Ziegler" <Austin.Ziegler@...>
>>S> There really should be a module called global, or
On Friday 28 May 2004 11:56, Austin Ziegler wrote:
[#101740] Metaobjects in Ruby — Claus Spitzer <DocBoobenstein@...>
I'm working on a paper for a class on Meta Programming Languages,
[#101745] Test::Unit: assert_follows_spec() (or something like that) — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>
For deterministic functions/methods, the same set of inputs should
David Garamond wrote:
Jean-Hugues ROBERT wrote:
David Garamond (lists@zara.6.isreserved.com) wrote:
[#101747] helium.ruby-lang.org was cracked — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...>
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[#101749] eruby vs php/jsp... — "Shannon Fang" <xrfang@...>
Hi All,
[#101767] Re: eruby vs php/jsp... — "Shannon Fang" <xrfang@...>
Thanks. I will check the template system while RAA returns operation. My
[#101784] comp.lang.ruby FAQ (DE): Rich Text Format (RTF) — "Josef 'Jupp' Schugt" <jupp@...>
Hi!
[#101787] Using TclTkAqua on Mac OS X? — Paul Sanchez <paul@...>
I know of and admire RubyCocoa, but I'm interested in being able to use
[#101813] Re: eruby vs php/jsp... — "Shannon Fang" <xrfang@...>
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. A bit more information about
[#101821] yaml - ruby 1.8.1 (2003-12-25) [i686-linux] — Paul Vudmaska <paul@...>
Hello,
[#101823] gsub!, replace with \' — Patrick Gundlach <clr1.10.randomuser@...>
Dear Ruby-hackers,
[#101830] Behavior of application changes when adding non-relevant puts — felix.nawothnig@... (Felix Nawothnig)
Hi.
Felix Nawothnig wrote:
[#101852] String#split returns extra empty string — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
While extending my own regexp-engine with a split method,
[#101853] mysql-ruby — Paul Vudmaska <paul@...>
%$@#%$ i know i've abused this list with more questions than answers but
* Paul Vudmaska <paul@vudmaska.com> [0501 09:01]:
[#101855] elegant way to say "try this thing, one at a time, until condition is met" — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>
Example: I need to unmount /usr and /usr2, but currently I can't because
Hi,
nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
[#101885] variable -- set value — orbit@... (orbit)
Whot can I set value for variable which name cosist ather variable?
orbit@klientsky.ru (orbit) wrote in message news:<734420e9.0405310551.2526ea0@posting.google.com>...
[#101899] RMagick available on Windows — Tim Hunter <cyclists@...>
Thanks to Kaspar Schiess, RMagick for Windows is now available at
Question: I'm not too familiar with the way RubyGems works, but I was
On Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 4:19:40 AM, Carl wrote:
[#101923] Distributed wiki idea (was blank--resending) — Carl Youngblood <carl@...>
For a while now I've been really excited about using wikis to store my
> Though I haven't used it, I'm told that this is the idea behind GNU
Re: New paradigm of introspective OO development
Hi Jared, You should visit omg.org to know the current technologies being promoted by them. CCM - CORBA Component Model that relieves application (writing only business logic within a logical unit i.e Component) developer from deployment environment development (read as infrastructure development like fault-tolerance, load-balancing, life-cycle management etc.) UML- Technology to model a software. With latest specification now you can even model real-time requirements, patterns, QoS, constraints etc. MDA- Technology aimed at making writing code thing of past. Only models, codes will be generated from models etc. Currently from UML model most of the code, (80-90% may vary depending on kind of application) may be generated. This is already practiced by some of the organization and their success stories are compiled at omg.org site. Do look there. So now think about way of developing a software systems not by writing code but by modeling your requirement. Now does this passes your wildest imagination? regards, Shashank Jared Thirsk wrote: > == Introduction to DAF == > > I am interested in the next generation of approaches to software > development. Over the last decades, there has been an obvious shift > in how our most complex software is created. We started off with > punch cards (or so I am told -- I was born in 1981 so apologies if my > history is off or my ideas are naive), punching in a stream of ones > and zeros. The code contained only 0 and 1 and everything else was > abstracted in the mind of the programmer, even the machine-level > instructions. Then we moved to assembly language, where code more or > less explicitly contains the machine-level instructions, while the > meaning of variables, and the control structures were still largely > abstract. From there, with the advent of C, control structures and > variable names are now in the code. With C++, objects are in the > code, while system-level architecture, design patterns, and object > interoperability are still mostly abstracted. > > The general trend is a move towards more intelligent code -- from > 1's and 0's, to objects with explicit inheritance, interfaces, and > data members. Each time more abstractions are made explicit in the > code, the code becomes easier to implement, test, and reuse. > > I am interested in exploring the next step (perhaps even determining > the nature of or actualizing the final step), of moving more > abstractions to code, making the code more intelligent, and easier to > develop, as the developer needs to carry less abstraction in his/her > own head. > > What I am proposing is a strictly minimalistic paradigm that > facilitates more intelligent code. More intelligent code facilitates > better and easier-to-implement RAD design tools, as well as more > intelligently adaptive and self-aware software components. The > working name used here is DAF, which stands for Dynamic Application > Framework. > > == Basic Concept == > > The idea I have is for a purer form of object-oriented development, > or really, aiming for objectively pure objects that perfectly > represent any conceptual abstraction a software programmer or > architect could make, on the object / component level. (On a system > level, abstraction arises from the interactions of the objects, and so > is beyond the scope of object definition, or object oriented > programming, but arises out of it anyway.) > > Conceptually speaking, what is an object? It is a concept, an idea. > It only has meaning once things are attached to it. The decorator > pattern (or at least my concept of it), in its general conceptual > form, can be used to attach capability to objects. Objects have two > primary capabilities: they can accept input from their environment, > and they affect their environment. Automata such as computer code > only meaningfully affects its external runtime environment in response > to input. (Whether various "agents" such as humans or software agents > act spontaneously is a philosophical matter requiring a theory of > reality, like the CTMU, or a semantic issue, for people who like to > think they are writing spontaneously intelligent agents.) Taking this > into consideration, we get the general principles of interface (which > is basically equivalent to environmental input or event handling) and > implementation (internal aspect of doing something that affects the > outer world) and their natural separation. > > Thus each object intrinsically has decorators that provide > interfaces, along with implementation of those interfaces. I think > that the progression towards easier programming will inevitably lead > and is leading towards smarter programming tools, eventually towards > the point where the programming objects themselves will support > reflexive self-modification, which could potentially be dropped at > either compilation time or runtime for the sake of proprietary opacity > or memory/CPU efficiency, where desired, or left in for the sake of > dynamically intelligent, self-aware and/or user runtime-extendable > applications. > > (There is also a shift towards using scripting languages where > certain application behavior is treated more as data than as > statically hard-wired information. The divide between data vs code is > shrinking and will continue to shrink as our software demands more > cross-integration and adaptive capability such as self-repair, > self-optimization, and transparency of object distribution.) > > Self-modifying objects therefore require two basic decorators: one > for managing interfaces, and one for managing decorators (which > encapsulate implementors). In DAF, there are three fundamental types > of objects, data, executable, and generic. > - Data primitives contain a data decorator, and provide get/set > interfaces for compatible types in the host language (char*, long, > etc.), with the implementation possibly converting numeric strings to > binary integers, for example. > - Executable primitives are guaranteed to implement an "execute" > method, which executes code in a supported language (perhaps a call to > shared library, or C code, or a lua script). > - Generic objects are not primitives in that they contain no Data or > Executable that interface with the host machine architecture. They > are completely abstract objects, containing nothing and having no > capability by default. > > == Extending Capability with Decorators == > > Generic, or non-primitive objects must be extended to be useful. > The DAF development environment contains a executable primitive to > create a Generic with self-modifying capabilities. Its inextricable > interfaces provide access to both the interface manager, and the > decorator manager. From here, all imaginable capability can be added. > > By adding a string decorator to an object, for example, the string > decorator factory will invoke operations in the Interface Manager to > add the supported Get/Set accessor interfaces to the object. The > decorator factory will also use the object's Decorator Manager to add > a string decorator, which is responsible for handling the > implementation of the string accessor methods appropriately, and > ensuring the value is stored in memory. (Prototypes for efficient > creation of frequently used objects is mentioned later.) > > == Refining Capability via Chain of Command == > > Another decorator could be added, to handle thread synchronization > for the object. A 'synchronization' decorator would be attached, > containing some kind of mutex or semaphore as its private > implementation data, and the existing interface methods for accessing > the string would be replaced by a chain of command: when GetString, or > whatever is invoked, the Interface Manager will pass execution to > locking/waiting implementation in the sync decorator, followed by the > string get implementation in the string decorator, followed by the > unlocking implementation. > > Another decorator could be added to control permissions of the > object, inserting a permission check at the beginning fo the chain of > command. The implementation would verify a security token object's > security domain (referenced inside the decorator, described in a > central location) before the chain was allowed to continue, if at all. > > All sorts of kinds of decorators could be added to objects, such as > ones that implement transparent access of objects over the net, > time-variable caching from net or disk, database access, child > containers, parent accessors, observer pattern, documentation info, > etc. As such, this could be seen as a sort of middleware that could > compete (once it evolves to this point, of course) with the likes of > CORBA, DCOP, ZeroC ICE, etc. (ICE's feature list is probably the > closest match I've seen to what I envision here.) The distinction > between DAF and these being that all capability for distributed > objects, as well as everything else, is optional, not constrained to > or focused on any one application. > > == Typing == > > Objects are not described by a single type, but rather conform to > one or more schemata which indicate their capabilities. A schema > comprises a set of one or more interfaces (or interface groups, not > described here), or one or more decorators, or both, with the > openendedness of DAF allowing more complex schema systems to be > implemented, such as the one used by XML (.xsd). For convenience of > organization, a schema may include other sub-schemata. > > Schemata can be generated at runtime, against which introspective > objects can be validated. Alternately, non-introspective objects or > non-modifiable objects can be hardcoded to indicate they implement a > certain schema. > > == Prototyping / Flyweighting == > > Factories may be fed a particular schema to use to create an object. > Detailed schemata may effectively be prototypes, which factories > could automatically generate for efficient creation, or which user > could manually specify. > I won't go through all the details, but with DAF there is > opportunity to set up the creation flyweights as well as copy-on-write > objects, transparently and conveniently for the developer. > > == Full Reflexivity and Self-Documentation == > > Documentation decorators could be added to every object prototype as > desired, at runtime (in a RAD environment) with the documentation > being physically stored in a separate location as the code. DAF > allows for multiple group (and parent accessor) decorators, > facilitating multi-dimensional heirarchies. > For example, a schema object could simultaneously be all of: > - the member of a multi-level index of all schemas currently > available, > - the member of a index of schemas provided by a certain pluggable > library, > - the dereference point of another object's reference (perhaps > hardcoded, or cached from a schema check) indicating that object > conforms to the schema, > - the parent object of a documentation object describing that schema, > the member of an index containing the set of objects authoritative by > an object server, > - a member of a revision control system tracking this version of the > object > - or any other number of examples. > > When subsystems are dropped or become irrelevant, such as a > development subsystem, all related decorators are dropped (revision > control, code documentation, etc.), and may be added again at runtime > (depending on how much introspective capabilities the objects have). > > The intent is to establish one way (via group/reference decorators) > and traceable one way (via group/parent decorators) connectivity > between objects in a way that explicitly captures the abstract > relationships between objects, moving the intelligence into the code. > > The resulting codebase becomes a self-documenting, self-accessible > network with broad scope, allowing a developer to traverse it similar > to how TheBrain traverses broad information rich networks. > > == Example Applications == > > Theoretically there should be no restriction on what couldn't be done, > the idea being that at some point, runtime dynamicity and reflection > can be traded in for runtime functionality and performance comparable > to a C program. That said, here are a few random examples where the > dynamic capabilities might be helpful: > > - A web based knowledge base that allows arbitrary relationships > providing multilevel heirarchies. Nodes of information could have > discussions linked to them, people's votes on appeal or validity, > external links, etc. > - A multi-server scale or peer-to-peer computer game requiring > transparent relocation of objects, benefitting from adaptive load > balancing and self-optimization. > - Any application where introspection is needed, applications that > learn, system doctor programs, better versions of clippy. > - Any application benefitting from a minimal or maximal > object-oriented approach, and design patterns. > > == Flexibility == > > The idea is that DAF is a simple abstraction layer, and does not > prevent the developer from making use of existing libraries and their > APIs, or from designing 80% of their application in Java or C++ or > perl and abstracting the 20% of the high-level stuff and scripting > abilities with DAF. > > In theory, DAF is just a way to abstract concepts, and should not > impose any restrictions on design. Any run-time dynamic > self-modification and introspective abilities should be optional > similar to how C++ RTTI is optional. > > == Facilitation of Adaptivity == > > A quick example of how introspection could facilitate Adaptive Agent > Intelligence: a group decorator (container of keyed child objects), > could have an AI agent attach itself to the "find object" interface > chain of command to profile a single or multiple algorithms for > looking up children, and either a) switch to another algorithm / > storage mechanism that is known or believed to be better, or b)record > performance of algorithms to disk so that common executions of the > application can reveal the best algorithm to use (hash table (of > varying sizes and algorithms), b-tree, map, etc.). > In general, this kind of introspection allows profiling that can be > more automated and facilitate intelligent run-time adaptivity in code > execution. > > == Implementation == > > DAF is a simple and obvious way of defining application in terms of > objects, interfaces and decorators. The matter of actually executing > code is arbitrary and could be handled by any compiled or interpreted > language with sufficient bindings to the DAF specification. If DAF > actually gets implemented, and it's up to me, I'm thinking that a BSD > or GPL licensed DAF runtime environment would be implemented using > C++, with support for executing shared libraries on Win32 / Linux / > other OS's, and bindings to a scripting language like Lua. At some > point, it may make sense to create a dedicated language for working > with DAF for the sake of syntax convenience and aesthetics (so far > I've been creatively overloading C++ operators.) > > == Summary == > > DAF is a proposal to facilitate and make explicit the implementation > of several important design patterns, including decorators, facade, > chain-of-command, command objects (instead of parameters to executable > objects). Generic support for observers, marshals, factories and > probably several other patterns will be provided as a part of DAF's > core decorator libraries, as will commonly useful applications such as > threading, network/database transparency, load balancing, etc. > > DAF aims to ease the development and debugging bottlenecks by leverage > today's increased CPU and memory availability to make applications > fully interactive, both to use and to develop introspectively without > necessarily enforcing any of these features. Introspection > facilitates adaptively intelligent program dynamicity to the point > where applications can start to become intelligently self-analytical. > > == Conclusion == > > I am a recent SW engineering grad without several years of serious > programming work experience, so I present this with humility and an > open mind. I am hoping that people can direct me to a) why this is a > bad idea, b) what is out there that already does this, or c) that this > is an avenue worth exploring, or d) same as c and that they're > interested in helping make it or e) something else. In addition to > being someone who would like better RAD tools for software > development, I am also an independent researcher in the realm of > psychology and cognitive science, and would like to see intuitive > methods of programming that more closely represents good theory of > mind (requiring less overall time and effort from the software > developer), as well as a theory of mind (AI) that is easier to > implement in and interact with software. > > I will try to monitor the forums where I post this, but if you want to > be sure to get through to me, email me at jaredthirsk123@yahoo.com > (removing the 123 for my actual address). > > Regards, > Jared Thirsk > http://daf.melsib.net