From: ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) Date: 2004-05-06T10:53:57+09:00 Subject: Re: [OT]Is Ruby Top 1 of Programming Languages that are Loved? In article <83173408.0405051506.5db85fe6@posting.google.com>, Sean Russell wrote: >ptkwt@aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) wrote in message >news:... >> It's also rather odd that assembler comes in at #6 most loved (above such >> notables as java, perl, scheme, C++). > > >All of which makes me want to scream: Where are the Ruby jobs? Yeah, mine's quickly coming to an end... I must say I've been lucky, I guess, I've managed to get paid to program in Ruby off and on over the last 3 years. My current gig ends at the end of the quarter - I've been fortunate to be coding primarily in Ruby for the last 3 months or so. I think this has been brought up before by others, but I'd be willing to work for less $ (don't spread this around too much :) to work on a Ruby project than I would be willing to work for doing the equivilent Perl|Java|C++ project - I'd be willing to trade some cash for the enjoyment and ease of coding in Ruby. I suspect there are others here who would make that trade too. So maybe instead of offshoring, corporations should figure out what languages people would code in for less$ if given the opportunity (also, consider the productivity gain they would get by using Ruby) ;-) Last week I went for a job interview for a Perl/C/C++ job. One of the interviewers saw that I had done a lot of Perl (including OOPerl) in the past, so he started asking me a lot of Perl questions. I haven't touched Perl in 3 years (about the same time I found Ruby, what a coincidence) and it's amazing how much your forget in that time - I really couldn't remember much about Perl ("What's too painful to remember, we simply choose to forget..."). He asked what the difference between 'my' and 'local' was and all I could remember was that it's backward from what it sounds like and that you usually use 'my' and rarely use 'local' and that 'local' is some sort of kludge. Most of the questions he asked about Perl pertained to some sort of special case/kludgey part of the language. I kept thinking to myself that No Sane Person Would Really Use Perl for any serious project. He asked why I had moved to Ruby and I basically didn't hold back my feelings about Perl. I'm sure I didn't get that job, and even though I'll be needing work in a couple of months, I'm kind of releived... So, are we ruined by Ruby? ;-) >Why >must so many of us wear the Cruel Shoes of Java? Ruby needs a killer >app, like an interpreter in Mozilla so that web designers can script >with Ruby instead of Javascript. That would be very nice. Maybe it's a matter of 'converting' the right people in the Mozilla project. >It needs a compiler, to satisfy the >need for speed. It would help if it had a decent, *standard* >cross-platform GUI. It'd be really nice if there was some mechanism >for type checking Ruby code. Most of all, it needs some monster >organization willing to throw a lot of marketting weight behind it, or >at least pay for a dozen people to work on developing it full time. > If only I had a million (or 2) dollars laying around.... Phil