From: Sascha Ebach <se@...>
Date: 2004-05-15T05:58:43+09:00
Subject: Re: Please revisit  Ruby's Best and vote for additions

Hi,

> Well, there's the J2EE Pet Store as the canonical example.  I believe 
> Microsoft did a version in C#/.net.  So consider that as the baseline; 
> The implementation is the spec.
> 
> It helps if a Ruby version goes toe-to-toe with Java or C# version, but 
> I think the key is a demonstration that you can build the same sort of 
> common business apps in Ruby, and show that they're just as fast and 
> scalable but easier to develop and maintain.

I concur. That is excactly what you would have to do, amongst other 
things of course. But, what is going to happen if everything works well?

Javadroids will become Rubydroids. Using Ruby they will be able to 
deliver their software even faster and in turn you will get two dozen 
programmers for a dime.

Is that really what we want? What I am saying is let's just be a little 
realistic. Without the enormous financial resources Sun and MS has 
nobody is ever going to be able to achieve anything but convert (or 
better introduce) a few (of the smarter) people to Ruby. The project 
will definately help, and it is very important and worthwhile, but it 
will never be a real success. Though I hope I am wrong here.

And maybe that is not even that bad. Just read the thread "What so 
special about PostgreSQL and other RDBMS" if you want to get a feel how 
the tone of this list will change when all the droids come ;) I would 
rather be amongst the fewer and nicer ppl on this list.

Sascha