From: "David A. Black" <dblack@...>
Date: 2004-06-01T21:50:45+09:00
Subject: Re: separating ruby-talk from comp.lang.ruby?

Hi --

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, daz wrote:

> All ML members post to a single recipient ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org.  It's
> up to the bulk mailer where it goes next.  The g/way is just one member.
> One scenario is that the missing messages are not getting to the gateway.
> If they did, they would be forwarded to c.l.ruby like the rest.
> That's my favourite suspicion and could easily be disproved by a single
> log entry for a message that failed to make the NG.
> 
> With this single piece of evidence (which shouldn't be so difficult to
> obtain ...) we have instant progress rather than looking at every other
> non-possibility (which I, and others, have already done).
> If the log says a phantom message has been forwarded, it cuts the
> upstream right out of the equation and IMHO leaves nntp.rb only.
> Debugging is a lot easier when you know you're focusing on the right area
> and it's a pointless waste of time when you strongly suspect that the
> problem lies elsewhere.

Here's a bit of an IRC exchange I had with Dennis in April which
establishes with certainty that my messages are being received from
ruby-talk and forwarded through the gateway (prior to vanishing).  I
sent a message while we were chatting and Dennis was monitoring the
logs:

<dblack> ok, i've replied to an existing msg (that's where it's been
         not working)
<juniks> 14:58:25:  mail2news | Forwarding Re: Variable names
<juniks> that was the one?
<dblack> yes


(Sorry I didn't post this sooner -- I was certain Dennis and I had
already checked this, but I couldn't find anything in our email and
only just now remembered that some of our discussion had been on IRC.)


David

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David A. Black
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