From: Chad Fowler <chadfowler@...>
Date: 2004-05-14T06:35:37+09:00
Subject: Re: Presenting a more unified front (Ruby webring?)

On Fri, 14 May 2004 06:20:32 +0900, Hal Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> wrote:
> 
> Curt Hibbs wrote:
> >
> > Just off the top of my head, I would say that the major, active Ruby sites
> > are:
> >
> >   http://www.ruby-lang.org/
> >   http://raa.ruby-lang.org/
> >   http://www.ruby-doc.org/
> >   http://wwwrubygarden.org/
> >   http://rubyforge.org/
> >
> > (my apologizes for any significant sites that I omitted).
> 
> I'd add:
> 
>    http://rubycentral.org/
>    http://ruby-talk.org/
> 
> at least.
> 
> > It would be a significant step if each off these sites shared a common html
> > block of links to each other (identified as Primary Ruby sites).
> 
> What's a primary Ruby site, though? Some might be borderline.
> 
> > Even better would be (as you said at the start) an official one-stop, all
> > things Ruby resource page that would be an annotated, organized list of
> > links to these primary sites and other sites.
> >
> > The right home for an "official" ruby "start page" like this would probably
> > be at ruby-lang.org, but another good choice would be at www.rubycentral.com
> > (good domain name).
> 
> Are the links on the main site kept updated? Are they prioritized? Are
> they easy to find?
> 
> If the answer to all these were "yes", I think we'd be OK.
> 
> > I'm not sure if rubycentral is owned by Andy Hunt, Dave Thomas or both, but
> > the site has not been active, and something like this could reinvigorate it
> > with renewed purpose. I'm sure this could be worked out.
> >
> > To make this happen would take someone willing to do the work to organize
> > and maintain the site (I can't do it, I way overbooked already). If someone
> > was willing to step up to the plate and offer to put together and maintain
> > something like this, I certainly would be willing to help negotiate with all
> > of the players for reciprocal linking.
> 
> I would think rubycentral.ORG might be the place for this.
> 
> Ask David Alan Black his opinion.
> 


I'm not David Black, but I host rubycentral.org on my server... :)

I would say that rubycentral.org is not a bad place (eventually) to do
something like this.  rubycentral.com is actually one of the most
heavily linked websites, so it might make sense as well.  When we
started Ruby Central, Inc., we made a tentative near-plan to
consolidate rubycentral.com and rubycentral.org.  It never got
prioritized and I'm not sure where Dave and Andy stand on the idea
now.

Another good idea would be somewhere like the front page of
RubyGarden.org.  We currently have a hosted weblog-styled site that
I've been considering turning into an aggregator of other syndicated
ruby sites.   I don't feel like the front page of RubyGarden.org is
used very effectively these days, and with the decentralized nature of
the web I find it appealing to stop hosting weblog data there vs. just
aggregating it (James' 1000 flowers point).

Of course, on the RubyGarden issue, the site was originally created
with the idea of creating a collaborative, community-driven code
snippet/discussion repository.  I think that's still a valuable
service to provide.  I see it being different than what rubyforge
offers.

Chad