From: Carl Youngblood <carl@...>
Date: 2004-06-01T22:39:07+09:00
Subject: Re: eruby vs php/jsp...

You can separate the "logic" from the "view" in PHP just as well as you 
can in Ruby.  You can also create Ruby web applications that don't have 
good separation.  It's really an issue of design.  Granted, Ruby IMO is 
a better language to program in, but PHP per se can still produce 
well-designed applications.

Carl

On Jun 1, 2004, at 12:24 AM, Ralf M�ller wrote:

> Hi Shannon,
>
> Working in a PHP-MySQL Enviroment, I find some basic Problems of this
> approach.
> As an embedded lang PHP seems to be a perfect solution for any  
> database
> driven web application. But sooner or later you will have to change the
> logical strukture xor the visual representation of our app (maybe, if 
> your
> boss or some customers need any changes). Then your WILL run into
> difficulties, because in PHP these two things are one. One the other 
> Hand
> this is the strength of PHP, but for changing projects  it's necessary 
> to
> separate the "logic" from the "view".
> Imagin, that in a couple of month another person is engaged to do the 
> visiual
> part of the web service, who only knows html. IMO it would be a waste 
> of time
> for him to learn PHP, because it does not do any visualisation. This 
> is the
> job of html,css and javascript.
>
> The IOWA-Project may be something for you: http://beta4.com.iowa
>
> Ralf