[#249784] sprintf can not work in ruby c source? — Haoqi Haoqi <axgle@126.com>

here is my simple test:

11 messages 2007/05/01

[#249812] RubyConf 2007 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

Hi everyone --

18 messages 2007/05/01

[#249834] simple subclass question — "Ball, Donald A Jr (Library)" <donald.ball@...>

If I want a class and its children to have different values for the same

23 messages 2007/05/01
[#249836] Re: simple subclass question — Daniel Lucraft <dan@...> 2007/05/01

Ball, Donald A Jr (Library) wrote:

[#249861] Re: simple subclass question — "Ball, Donald A Jr (Library)" <donald.ball@...> 2007/05/01

Thanks to you and Robert for the quick answers. I think I get it now; I

[#249862] Re: simple subclass question — "Ball, Donald A Jr (Library)" <donald.ball@...> 2007/05/01

Actually, I spoke too quickly. If I use this construct:

[#249871] Re: simple subclass question — "Logan Capaldo" <logancapaldo@...> 2007/05/01

On 5/1/07, Ball, Donald A Jr (Library) <donald.ball@nashville.gov> wrote:

[#249948] Re: simple subclass question — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/05/02

On 5/1/07, Logan Capaldo <logancapaldo@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249954] Re: simple subclass question — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/05/02

On 5/2/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249839] pallet 1.2.1 — Stephen Touset <stephen@...>

I've been writing a multiplatform packaging tool for the company I work

18 messages 2007/05/01

[#249887] testing and assigning with regexp's — "Mike Steiner" <mikejaysteiner@...>

I'm new to Ruby, and in a little program I'm writing, I have code like this:

17 messages 2007/05/02
[#249916] Re: testing and assigning with regexp's — Tim Hunter <TimHunter@...> 2007/05/02

Mike Steiner wrote:

[#249922] Newbie question: How to get an object in the Controller from a view's hidden field — Agnisys <agnisys@...> 2007/05/02

Hi,

[#249911] Inverse scanf: finding format specifers of existing fields — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2007/05/02

[#249957] C DSL anyone? — Brad Phelan <phelan@...>

Just curious,

14 messages 2007/05/02

[#250015] Question regarding tr method in Strings Class — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@...>

Is there a way to denote a null in the replacement for a character using

11 messages 2007/05/03

[#250055] Checking Credit Cards (#122) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

This quiz is super easy, of course. The reason I ran it though is that I wanted

18 messages 2007/05/03
[#250067] Re: [SUMMARY] Checking Credit Cards (#122) — anansi <kazaam@...> 2007/05/03

> Ruby Quiz will now take a one week break. Work has been rough this week and I

[#250071] Re: [SUMMARY] Checking Credit Cards (#122) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/05/03

On May 3, 2007, at 9:15 AM, anansi wrote:

[#250058] Beyond YAML? (scaling) — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...>

Hi,

28 messages 2007/05/03

[#250079] Enhanced Ruby editor — CParticle <cparticle@...>

All,

19 messages 2007/05/03

[#250117] Array to Hash — Josselin <josselin@...>

is it possible to convert easily an Array like this one :

14 messages 2007/05/03

[#250169] Is there a better way to do this? — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@...>

As part of my learning Ruby I am trying to learn how to format strings.

19 messages 2007/05/04

[#250178] Ruby love — "Cliff Rowley" <cliffrowley@...>

I just taught my girlfriend - who has never coded before - how to code in

32 messages 2007/05/04
[#250234] Re: Ruby love — Lloyd Linklater <lloyd@2live4.com> 2007/05/04

I also started teaching an old flame how to program. She went through

[#250238] Re: Ruby love — "Logan Capaldo" <logancapaldo@...> 2007/05/04

On 5/4/07, Lloyd Linklater <lloyd@2live4.com> wrote:

[#250265] Re: Ruby love — "Ivor Paul" <ivorpaul@...> 2007/05/04

Great, thanks guys.

[#250299] Re: Ruby love — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2007/05/04

On 5/4/07, Ivor Paul <ivorpaul@gmail.com> wrote:

[#250374] Re: Ruby love — dblack@... 2007/05/05

Hi --

[#250267] Witch Oracle library should I use — "Ben Edwards" <funkytwig@...>

Have had a look on rubyforge and done a little looking around but not

24 messages 2007/05/04
[#250289] Re: Witch Oracle library should I use — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2007/05/04

On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:27:13AM +0900, Ben Edwards wrote:

[#250750] Re: Witch Oracle library should I use — "Ben Edwards" <funkytwig@...> 2007/05/08

On 04/05/07, Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com> wrote:

[#250773] Re: Witch Oracle library should I use — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2007/05/08

On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:38:27PM +0900, Ben Edwards wrote:

[#250809] Re: Witch Oracle library should I use — "Ben Edwards" <funkytwig@...> 2007/05/08

On 08/05/07, Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com> wrote:

[#250810] Re: Witch Oracle library should I use — khaines@... 2007/05/08

Ben Edwards wrote:

[#250811] Re: Witch Oracle library should I use — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/05/08

On May 8, 2007, at 1:53 PM, khaines@enigo.com wrote:

[#250381] RubyCocoa Sheets - help anyone? — Tim Perrett <freestyle_kayaker@...>

Hey Guys

33 messages 2007/05/05

[#250394] A question for people with English OS — "Harry Kakueki" <list.push@...>

Can you view Japanese documents on the internet with an English OS

23 messages 2007/05/05
[#250620] Re: A question for people with English OS — Roseanne Zhang <roseanne@...> 2007/05/07

Harry Kakueki wrote:

[#250626] Re: A question for people with English OS — "Harry Kakueki" <list.push@...> 2007/05/07

On 5/7/07, Roseanne Zhang <roseanne@javaranch.com> wrote:

[#250633] Re: A question for people with English OS — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...> 2007/05/07

[#250414] SIMPLE! and INTUITIVE! GUI BUILDER for RUBY? — gcarcass <gcarcass@...>

Is there any, SIMPLE software that I can use to build GRAPHIC INTERFACES

20 messages 2007/05/05

[#250439] How can I output an object/variable's name? — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...>

Suppose I have an object :

15 messages 2007/05/05

[#250487] dynamically named variables or Constants — "Tom V." <ruby-talk@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2007/05/06
[#250490] Re: dynamically named variables or Constants — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2007/05/06

Alle domenica 6 maggio 2007, Tom V. ha scritto:

[#250557] separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — Nanyang Zhan <sxain@...>

Don't get me wrong, because I just want to know how to separate English

34 messages 2007/05/07
[#250570] Re: separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — akbarhome <akbarhome@...> 2007/05/07

On May 7, 2:39 pm, Nanyang Zhan <s...@hotmail.com> wrote:> Don't get me wrong, because I just want to know how to separate English> words from a string with ruby.> There are strings (UTF-8 encoded) to record people's name,> like:>> 摩根·弗里曼 Morgan Freeman> 布鲁斯·威利斯 Bruce Willis> 李小明 Lee xiao ming> these strings containing Chinese name(without space between characters),> separated by a space, following an English name>> or> Frank Darabont> Just an English name.>> Would you give me an idea how to separate these Chinese characters(if> any)?>> --> Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.

[#250571] Re: separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — akbarhome <akbarhome@...> 2007/05/07

On May 7, 4:12 pm, akbarhome <akbarh...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#250575] Re: separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — Nanyang Zhan <sxain@...> 2007/05/07

Akbar Home wrote:

[#250592] Re: separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — akbarhome <akbarhome@...> 2007/05/07

On May 7, 5:17 pm, Nanyang Zhan <s...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[#250603] Re: separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...> 2007/05/07

[#250606] Re: separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — Nanyang Zhan <sxain@...> 2007/05/07

John Joyce wrote:

[#250609] Re: separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...> 2007/05/07

[#250631] Re: separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — Nanyang Zhan <sxain@...> 2007/05/07

John Joyce wrote:

[#250734] Re: separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — eden li <eden.li@...> 2007/05/08

There is documentation:

[#250751] Re: separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — Nanyang Zhan <sxain@...> 2007/05/08

Eden Li wrote:

[#250782] Re: separate Chinese and English! with Ruby — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2007/05/08

On 08/05/07, Nanyang Zhan <sxain@hotmail.com> wrote:> Eden Li wrote:...> Thanks, Zev. but my current problem is about Chinese.> I am going to figure out a way to separate Chinese string from a string> mix with other characters.> What I mean other Characters are alphabets from English or/and other> languages, like Ô, é, á... (may I call them western words?)>> This string may be containing no Chinese:> "String without Chinese" ,I don't need to do anything about it, other> than identify such strings.> "中文 Western Words" #Chinese characters + space + western words.> "中文・另一些中文 western words" #Chinese characters may be separated by> punctuations, or/and space like:> "中文 前有空格 western words"> Almost all Chinese phrases are at the beginning of the strings.> But some may contain numbers, like:> "2007年的日记 diary of 2007"> or some time English or alphabets are used as part of Chinese> phrases,like:> "BB日记 diary of my baby">> Eden Li wrote:> > Nooo! Those are the first BYTES of the UTF-8 encoding of the> > punctuation that you listed.>> Finally, I know what those number are. Thanks.> >so if you remove them from a givenstring, you're going to get back a poorly encoded UTF-8 string>> In fact, I wanted to use those number to test whether a character is> Chinese or not (if 'character[0]' fit the range of [226, 228, 229, 230,> 231, 233, 239], then it was likely to be a Chinese). (Now I know it may> be wrong.)> Then depend on this judgment, if this part of string ( string would be> splited by space, divided into parts at the beginning) containing more> X%, say 60%, of this kind of characters, then I would mark this parts as> Chinese phrase, then take it out of string.>> I still want to use this strategy. but> As you point out, [226, 228, 229, 230, 231, 233, 239] are not safe to> identify Chinese, is there any other easy way to identify Chinese> characters?

[#250665] Ruby Performance - LOW ? — conker <hkchao@...>

Hi All,

23 messages 2007/05/07
[#250836] Re: Ruby Performance - LOW ? — Jason <rsfree3@...> 2007/05/08

On May 7, 2:55 pm, conker <hkc...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#250702] Difference answers from Terminal, TextMate, and BBEdit — Greg <user@...>

A newbie here trying to develop one of Pine's tutorial scripts. Ruby v1.8.6

15 messages 2007/05/08

[#250745] Pass data to a variable — "Seth .." <seth@...>

Hello,

19 messages 2007/05/08

[#250821] basic threading question: can ruby use real threads? — "Kyle Schmitt" <kyleaschmitt@...>

I've read somewhere, and would love for it to be wrong, that ruby

27 messages 2007/05/08
[#250823] Re: basic threading question: can ruby use real threads? — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/05/08

On May 8, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Kyle Schmitt wrote:

[#250824] Re: basic threading question: can ruby use real threads? — "Kyle Schmitt" <kyleaschmitt@...> 2007/05/08

Sweet, thanks for the link!

[#250827] Re: basic threading question: can ruby use real threads? — "Kyle Schmitt" <kyleaschmitt@...> 2007/05/08

OK, so I'm reading that article, and I'm getting three things form it:

[#250923] Re: basic threading question: can ruby use real threads? — Marcin Raczkowski <swistak@...> 2007/05/09

On Tuesday 08 May 2007 21:34, Kyle Schmitt wrote:

[#250940] Re: basic threading question: can ruby use real threads? — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/05/09

On Thu, 10 May 2007 01:00:04 +0900, Marcin Raczkowski <swistak@mailx.expro.pl> wrote:

[#250946] Re: basic threading question: can ruby use real threads? — Marcin Raczkowski <swistak@...> 2007/05/09

On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:27, MenTaLguY wrote:

[#250949] Re: basic threading question: can ruby use real threads? — "Kyle Schmitt" <kyleaschmitt@...> 2007/05/09

If you fork, is there even a way to create objects that are shared

[#250954] Re: basic threading question: can ruby use real threads? — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/05/09

On Thu, 10 May 2007 04:03:57 +0900, "Kyle Schmitt" <kyleaschmitt@gmail.com> wrote:

[#250970] Re: basic threading question: can ruby use real threads? — "Kyle Schmitt" <kyleaschmitt@...> 2007/05/09

Manipulating ruby objects from inside the threads would be the idea in

[#250856] Implementation of the object.sort method. — Jorge Domenico Bucaran Romano <jbucaran@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2007/05/09

[#250947] What's the most ruby-ish way to write this python code? — Drew Olson <olsonas@...>

All -

10 messages 2007/05/09

[#250998] The Factory Method — Enrique Comba Riepenhausen <ecomba@...>

Hi everyone,

16 messages 2007/05/10

[#251017] instance_variables doesn't return unassigned variables — Bernd <burnt99@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2007/05/10

[#251051] Trouble using string.tr() — Todd Burch <promos@...>

I've coded up EBCDIC to ASCII translate strings. Everything is working

24 messages 2007/05/10
[#251054] Re: Trouble using string.tr() — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/05/10

On 10.05.2007 17:01, Todd Burch wrote:

[#251056] Re: Trouble using string.tr() — Todd Burch <promos@...> 2007/05/10

Here are the two translate strings. Need more code? Thanks y'all.

[#251057] Re: Trouble using string.tr() — Todd Burch <promos@...> 2007/05/10

Note, the version I'm showing has the backslash. It fails with or

[#251061] Re: Trouble using string.tr() — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/05/10

On 10.05.2007 17:23, Todd Burch wrote:

[#251064] Re: Trouble using string.tr() — Todd Burch <promos@...> 2007/05/10

I'll need to code up a smaller example than the 400+ lines I have right

[#251083] Defending Ruby's OOP — Lucas Holland <hollandlucas@...>

Hi,

31 messages 2007/05/10

[#251105] self in blocks — Vasco Andrade e silva <vascoas@...>

Hi

18 messages 2007/05/10
[#251106] Re: self in blocks — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/05/10

On Fri, 11 May 2007 06:37:07 +0900, Vasco Andrade e silva <vascoas@gmail.com> wrote:

[#251113] Re: self in blocks — Vasco Andrade e silva <vascoas@...> 2007/05/10

MenTaLguY wrote:

[#251136] how to remove dups from 2 lists? — "Mike Steiner" <mikejaysteiner@...>

I'm trying to write some code that removes all elements from 2 lists that

33 messages 2007/05/11
[#251160] Re: how to remove dups from 2 lists? — Alex Gutteridge <alexg@...> 2007/05/11

On 11 May 2007, at 11:18, Mike Steiner wrote:

[#251170] Re: how to remove dups from 2 lists? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/05/11

On 11.05.2007 06:46, Alex Gutteridge wrote:

[#251173] Re: how to remove dups from 2 lists? — Enrique Comba Riepenhausen <ecomba@...> 2007/05/11

On 11 May 2007, at 09:10, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#251174] Re: how to remove dups from 2 lists? — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2007/05/11

On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:55:14PM +0900, Enrique Comba Riepenhausen wrote:

[#251176] Re: how to remove dups from 2 lists? — Enrique Comba Riepenhausen <ecomba@...> 2007/05/11

[#251192] Re: how to remove dups from 2 lists? — "Kevin Compton" <klcompt@...> 2007/05/11

Assuming my previous assumption of what exactly is needed... at this point

[#251175] DRb connection error with more than 250+ DRb services — "J. Wook" <9ruvie@...>

23 messages 2007/05/11
[#251438] Re: DRb connection error with more than 250+ DRb services — Marcin Raczkowski <swistak@...> 2007/05/13

On Friday 11 May 2007 08:25, J. Wook wrote:

[#251440] Re: DRb connection error with more than 250+ DRb services — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2007/05/13

On 13/05/07, Marcin Raczkowski <swistak@mailx.expro.pl> wrote:

[#251200] Huffman Encoder (#123) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

19 messages 2007/05/11

[#251211] shebang - what's the point? — Todd Burch <promos@...>

I've written a few hundred scripts now, and not once have I ever coded a

12 messages 2007/05/11

[#251335] Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — enduro <sven613go@...>

Hello,

57 messages 2007/05/12
[#251363] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2007/05/12

On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 04:20:10PM +0900, enduro wrote:

[#251382] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Trans <transfire@...> 2007/05/12

[#251390] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/05/12

On 5/12/07, Trans <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#251426] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/05/13

On 5/12/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com> wrote:

[#251427] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Xavier Noria <fxn@...> 2007/05/13

Just wanted to point out that the original question is why Ruby core

[#251460] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/05/13

Hi,

[#251574] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Trans <transfire@...> 2007/05/14

[#251626] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — enduro <sven715rt@...> 2007/05/15

Thank you all for your replies.

[#251644] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2007/05/15

On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 10:07:24AM +0900, enduro wrote:

[#251651] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — "enduro (Sven Suska)" <sven715rt@...> 2007/05/15

Hello Brian,

[#251681] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2007/05/15

On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 06:42:04PM +0900, enduro (Sven Suska) wrote:

[#251686] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/05/15

On 5/15/07, Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com> wrote:

[#251699] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2007/05/15

On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 10:54:05PM +0900, Robert Dober wrote:

[#251710] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2007/05/15

[#251732] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2007/05/15

On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 12:23:09AM +0900, Gary Wright wrote:

[#251780] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — "Sven Suska (enduro)" <sven715rt@...> 2007/05/16

Hello everybody,

[#251783] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Trans <transfire@...> 2007/05/16

[#251785] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — "Logan Capaldo" <logancapaldo@...> 2007/05/16

On 5/16/07, Trans <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#251794] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — dblack@... 2007/05/16

Hi --

[#251826] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — "Logan Capaldo" <logancapaldo@...> 2007/05/16

On 5/16/07, dblack@wobblini.net <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:

[#251978] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2007/05/17

[#251980] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — dblack@... 2007/05/17

Hi --

[#252076] Re: Why was the "Symbol is a String"-idea dropped? — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2007/05/18

On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 03:17:01AM +0900, dblack@wobblini.net wrote:

[#251404] Algorithm books for Ruby (was Re: Object-oriented solution to Tower of Hanoi) — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...>

On 5/12/07, Martin DeMello <martindemello@gmail.com> wrote:

13 messages 2007/05/12
[#251452] Re: Algorithm books for Ruby (was Re: Object-oriented solution to Tower of Hanoi) — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2007/05/13

On 5/13/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com> wrote:

[#251477] Re: Algorithm books for Ruby (was Re: Object-oriented solution to Tower of Hanoi) — darren kirby <bulliver@...> 2007/05/13

quoth the Martin DeMello:

[#251591] Re: Algorithm books for Ruby (was Re: Object-oriented solution to Tower of Hanoi) — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/05/14

On 5/13/07, darren kirby <bulliver@badcomputer.org> wrote:

[#251593] Re: Algorithm books for Ruby (was Re: Object-oriented solution to Tower of Hanoi) — "Florian Frank" <flori@...> 2007/05/14

Rick DeNatale schrieb:

[#251829] Some Ruby Features missing... — edlich@...

To start a new Ruby Project I need some more features that I know

21 messages 2007/05/16

[#251879] Coopting String interpolation — aurelianito <aurelianocalvo@...>

We all know the #{} operator for String interpolation.

18 messages 2007/05/17
[#251881] Re: Coopting String interpolation — Pe, Botp <botp@...> 2007/05/17

From: aurelianito [mailto:aurelianocalvo@gmail.com] :

[#251882] Re: Coopting String interpolation — Pe, Botp <botp@...> 2007/05/17

# irb(main):005:0> greeting="hi, #{"Ms "+name.capitalize}"

[#251883] Re: Coopting String interpolation — aurelianito <aurelianocalvo@...> 2007/05/17

[#251918] Re: Coopting String interpolation — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/05/17

On 17.05.2007 07:09, aurelianito wrote:

[#251936] Re: Coopting String interpolation — "Aureliano Calvo" <aurelianocalvo@...> 2007/05/17

> > I'm trying to do some metaprogramming and I need to apply some

[#251892] Problem removing new line characters on Mac OS X — Singeo <singeo.sg@...>

Hi, I'm pretty new to Ruby. I've got a text file where I need to

18 messages 2007/05/17
[#251899] Re: Problem removing new line characters on Mac OS X — Hermann Martinelli <martinelli@...> 2007/05/17

Singeo wrote:

[#251902] Re: Problem removing new line characters on Mac OS X — Singeo <singeo.sg@...> 2007/05/17

Hi Hermann, just tried your suggestion of:

[#251908] "Crystallizing" Objects — Sven Suska <sven715rt@...>

Hello,

22 messages 2007/05/17

[#251990] rubyforge etiquette for dead projects — "Nasir Khan" <rubylearner@...>

Apologies if this is not the right forum for this, but this surely has

12 messages 2007/05/17

[#252034] Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — Chris Dew <cmsdew@...>

As far as I can see, the 'end' keyword is 'repeating yourself' when

140 messages 2007/05/18
[#252035] Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/05/18

Hi,

[#252045] Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2007/05/18

On 18/05/07, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:

[#317015] Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — Frasier Mruby <flyingkite@...> 2008/10/06

Dear Mats,

[#317018] Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/10/06

Frasier Mruby wrote:

[#317024] Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — Frasier Mruby <flyingkite@...> 2008/10/06

James, thank you for you fast response.

[#317045] Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — Tom Reilly <w3gat@...> 2008/10/07

I've thought that one rather likes the structure of a language learned

[#252098] Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — Jaroslaw Zabiello <hipertracker@...> 2007/05/18

Dnia Fri, 18 May 2007 16:38:05 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto napisaa):

[#252067] Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — Daniel Martin <martin@...> 2007/05/18

Chris Dew <cmsdew@googlemail.com> writes:

[#252073] Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/05/18

Hi,

[#252099] Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — "Eric Mahurin" <eric.mahurin@...> 2007/05/18

On 5/18/07, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:

[#409189] Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby? — "Juha K." <lists@...> 2013/07/29

Why not go coffeescript style and create a preprocessor gem that

[#252060] Magic Squares (#124) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

29 messages 2007/05/18

[#252345] Re: How to adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...>

On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 03:53:25PM +0900, Giles Bowkett wrote:

25 messages 2007/05/21
[#252502] Re: How to adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby — Brad Phelan <phelan@...> 2007/05/22

Brad Phelan wrote:

[#252511] Re: How to adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby — dblack@... 2007/05/22

Hi --

[#252352] using Enumerable when each has arguments? — "Erwin Abbott" <erwin.abbott@...>

Hi

16 messages 2007/05/21
[#252367] Re: using Enumerable when each has arguments? — Trans <transfire@...> 2007/05/21

[#252398] Wikipedia Bot — Peter Marsh <evil_grunger@...>

I'm planning on writing a simple Wikipedia Bot, but I'm having a little

17 messages 2007/05/21

[#252454] ruby libnet — Ari Brown <ari@...>

hey,

19 messages 2007/05/21
[#252500] Re: ruby libnet — anansi <kazaam@...> 2007/05/22

could you get it to work to send a SYN packet?

[#252506] Netiquette (was Re: ruby libnet) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/05/22

On May 22, 2007, at 3:35 AM, anansi wrote:

[#252468] Oddities of Ruby to a noob — "Hakusa@..." <Hakusa@...>

I have some good experience in other languages and consider myself a

15 messages 2007/05/22

[#252489] Partial Regular Expression Matching — Hans Fugal <fugalh@...>

I would like to identify partial matching of a regular expression, for a

11 messages 2007/05/22

[#252645] Enumerator for Hash — Ryan Hinton <iobass@...>

I have a complex object that I want to hash in different ways, similar

12 messages 2007/05/23

[#252685] can I do windows shell scripting in ruby? — davy.bold@...

Hello,

15 messages 2007/05/23
[#252689] Re: can I do windows shell scripting in ruby? — "Jano Svitok" <jan.svitok@...> 2007/05/23

On 5/23/07, davy.bold@googlemail.com <davy.bold@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#252706] require_gem vs. gem — Dennis Crissman <dcrissman@...>

I am confused, can somebody please explain to me the difference between

14 messages 2007/05/23

[#252747] Ruby Header Files in Mac OS X — Ari Brown <ari@...>

[Snow-iMac:~/Desktop/Programming/rubyforger] ari% ruby extconf.rb

15 messages 2007/05/23
[#252752] Re: Ruby Header Files in Mac OS X — Henry Maddocks <henryj@...> 2007/05/23

[#252836] Ruby - Debugging — "How do I use the ruby default debugger?" <jbucaran@...>

How do I use the ruby default debugger?

25 messages 2007/05/24
[#252840] Re: Ruby - Debugging — "Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists" <tpo2@...> 2007/05/24

On Fri, 25 May 2007, How do I use the ruby default debugger? wrote:

[#252891] Re: Ruby - Debugging — Jorge Domenico Bucaran Romano <jbucaran@...> 2007/05/25

Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:

[#252893] Re: Ruby - Debugging — Alex Gutteridge <alexg@...> 2007/05/25

On 25 May 2007, at 11:37, Jorge Domenico Bucaran Romano wrote:

[#252896] Re: Ruby - Debugging — Jorge Domenico Bucaran Romano <jbucaran@...> 2007/05/25

Alex Gutteridge wrote:

[#252897] Re: Ruby - Debugging — Jorge Domenico Bucaran Romano <jbucaran@...> 2007/05/25

Also, why does it shows this:

[#252898] Re: Ruby - Debugging — Alex Gutteridge <alexg@...> 2007/05/25

On 25 May 2007, at 12:18, Jorge Domenico Bucaran Romano wrote:

[#252902] Re: Ruby - Debugging — Jorge Domenico Bucaran Romano <jbucaran@...> 2007/05/25

Is it necessary to load the rubygems when debugging? Why do I need this?

[#252903] Re: Ruby - Debugging — Jorge Domenico Bucaran Romano <jbucaran@...> 2007/05/25

It is not working look at this:

[#252907] Re: Ruby - Debugging — Alex Gutteridge <alexg@...> 2007/05/25

On 25 May 2007, at 13:18, Jorge Domenico Bucaran Romano wrote:

[#252910] Re: Ruby - Debugging — Jorge Domenico Bucaran Romano <jbucaran@...> 2007/05/25

C:\Users\jbucaran>ruby -rdebug c:\users\jbucaran\desktop\demo2.rb

[#252857] Introducing the "it" keyword — Greg Fodor <gfodor@...>

A common pattern seen in a lot of ruby code is:

102 messages 2007/05/24
[#252861] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — dblack@... 2007/05/24

Hi --

[#252866] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Greg Fodor <gfodor@...> 2007/05/24

> Maybe you could do:

[#252926] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — "Ronald Fischer" <ronald.fischer@...> 2007/05/25

[#253009] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Gregory Seidman <gsslist+ruby@...> 2007/05/25

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 04:58:08PM +0900, Ronald Fischer wrote:

[#253377] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — "Ronald Fischer" <ronald.fischer@...> 2007/05/29

> > A more

[#253417] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Gregory Seidman <gsslist+ruby@...> 2007/05/29

On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 04:55:01PM +0900, Ronald Fischer wrote:

[#253678] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2007/05/31

On 29 May 2007, at 14:17, Gregory Seidman wrote:

[#253683] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@...> 2007/05/31

Eleanor McHugh wrote:

[#253693] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Chad Perrin <perrin@...> 2007/05/31

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:30:30AM +0900, Michael W. Ryder wrote:

[#253701] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@...> 2007/05/31

Chad Perrin wrote:

[#253704] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Chad Perrin <perrin@...> 2007/05/31

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 03:40:16PM +0900, Michael W. Ryder wrote:

[#253742] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — "Jacob Burkhart" <igotimac@...> 2007/05/31

Would a let or with construct be fast enough and memory efficient

[#253744] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — "Jacob Burkhart" <igotimac@...> 2007/05/31

consider the clarity of reading these:

[#253750] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Mariusz Pękala <skoot@...> 2007/05/31

On 2007-05-31 21:32:28 +0900 (Thu, May), Jacob Burkhart wrote:

[#253773] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Chad Perrin <perrin@...> 2007/05/31

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:21:49PM +0900, Mariusz P??kala wrote:

[#253849] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — "Jacob Burkhart" <igotimac@...> 2007/06/01

> Of course, I might find the with:a(v+1) syntax more readable if it were

[#252929] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/05/25

On 24.05.2007 23:35, Greg Fodor wrote:

[#252933] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Greg Fodor <gfodor@...> 2007/05/25

> And don't tell me that this is too much typing for you.

[#252935] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/05/25

On 25.05.2007 10:21, Greg Fodor wrote:

[#253087] Re: Introducing the "it" keyword — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/05/26

On 25.05.2007 11:40, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#252870] Ruby programming challenges and riddles? — "Hakusa@..." <Hakusa@...>

I recently fell in love with programming riddles and was told that

17 messages 2007/05/24

[#252961] Fractals (#125) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

21 messages 2007/05/25

[#253103] local variables vs. methods — Henrik Schmidt <no.spam@...>

Hi there,

18 messages 2007/05/26
[#253108] Re: local variables vs. methods — "Hakusa@..." <Hakusa@...> 2007/05/26

If a language stops you from doing something just because it's bad

[#253113] Perspectives for Ruby 2.0 — arcadiorubiogarcia@...

Hi,

13 messages 2007/05/26

[#253170] Tricky problem with === — "Erwin Abbott" <erwin.abbott@...>

I have a "BlankState" type of class and it's method_missing forwards

17 messages 2007/05/27

[#253374] Underscore — Jon Harrop <jon@...>

Logan Capaldo wrote:

22 messages 2007/05/29
[#253394] Re: Underscore — Jon Harrop <jon@...> 2007/05/29

Michael Fellinger wrote:

[#253396] Re: Underscore — "Jano Svitok" <jan.svitok@...> 2007/05/29

On 5/29/07, Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:

[#253467] Offline Rails Framework Documentation — Paul <pdavidow@...>

I would like to download the Rails Framework Documentation (http://

11 messages 2007/05/29

[#253526] #respond_to? not working for dynamically generated methods — Maurice Gladwell <maurice.gladwell@...>

It seems Object#respond_to doesn't work for dynamically generated

37 messages 2007/05/30
[#253543] Re: #respond_to? not working for dynamically generated methods — dblack@... 2007/05/30

Hi --

[#253556] Re: #respond_to? not working for dynamically generated metho — Maurice Gladwell <maurice.gladwell@...> 2007/05/30

David wrote:

[#253563] Re: #respond_to? not working for dynamically generated metho — dblack@... 2007/05/30

Hi --

[#253564] Re: #respond_to? not working for dynamically generated metho — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/05/30

On May 30, 2007, at 7:53 AM, dblack@wobblini.net wrote:

[#253579] Re: #respond_to? not working for dynamically generated metho — Maurice Gladwell <maurice.gladwell@...> 2007/05/30

James Gray wrote:

[#253567] Help with Ruby < - > Oracle Connectivity — Peter Bailey <pbailey@...>

Hello,

15 messages 2007/05/30
[#253576] Re: Help with Ruby < - > Oracle Connectivity — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2007/05/30

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 10:30:40PM +0900, Peter Bailey wrote:

[#253584] Re: Help with Ruby < - > Oracle Connectivity — Peter Bailey <pbailey@...> 2007/05/30

Brian Candler wrote:

[#253591] Re: Help with Ruby < - > Oracle Connectivity — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2007/05/30

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 11:12:02PM +0900, Peter Bailey wrote:

[#253570] Enumerable#serially - those nifty functions w/o memory footprint — SonOfLilit <sonoflilit@...>

Hello,

13 messages 2007/05/30

[#253649] image_science 1.1.3 Released — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

image_science version 1.1.3 has been released!

12 messages 2007/05/30
[#253652] Re: [ANN] image_science 1.1.3 Released — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/05/30

On May 30, 2007, at 3:38 PM, Ryan Davis wrote:

virtual metaclasses explanation

From: "angel.of.north@..." <angel.of.north@...>
Date: 2007-05-24 17:20:06 UTC
List: ruby-talk #252825
I am getting a bit weighed down at this moment by looking under the
bonnet a bit too  much, but in figure 24.2 in Dave Thomas Pragmatic
Programming,
 classes and objects is is unclear how the metaclass acquires its
additional method as strings.
Dave Rhomas says that the metaclass will inherit all it methods from
its corresponding proper class.

   1. Do all inheritance chains and all objects have a homologue
metaclass at all times, which are behind the scenes?
   2. Do a chain of metaclasses spontaneously appear at the moment
when a class is used as a receiver : so to be used to call a method
inside of a parentclass?
   3. How can a metaclass contain more methods than its corresponding
class has.  Can you give an example of the code in the next addition?
   4. Which is searched first in the inheritance chain.  methods in
the proper parents, or methods in the meta parents?
   5. If a method is found is the search stopped even though another
method with the same name might exist in a parallel chain?

I have made some written notes as I went along which might interest
you.  It is useful to know how the reader is progressing.

def ClassA
def initialize
#some code
end
end

def ClassB
def ClassA.methodX
#code
end
def ClassB.methodY
#code
end
end



both work.
Is this a good idea to define a class method within a different
class?  is this the point of OO or is it bad programming style?

Andy Hunt says

It depends.  In general, that's probably bad style as you're likely
violating the encapsulation of ClassA.

Regards,

/\ndy

\newpage

class ClassA
def initialize
puts "something classA"
end
end

class ClassC
  def initialize
    puts "someting classC"
  end
  def methodY
    puts "beach balls"
  end
end



class ClassB < ClassC
  def methodY
    super
  puts "something ClassB.methodY"
  end
end

test = ClassA.new
stuart = ClassB.new
puts stuart.methodY




stuart = ClassB.methodY

or

stuart = ClassB.new
stuart.methodY

stuart is an object which is initialized of the class method as
ClassB.new which is mostly defined as an ordinary method called
initialize inside of and at the beginnning of the class as ClassB

Sometimes the object as stuart will be referred by as the receiver if
a method within the class by which the object as stuart is defined, is
called after the object name as stuart. i.e stuart.methodY.  Stuart is
reffered by as the receiver so to indicate that the class of the
object as stuart, which in this case is the class as ClassB, contains
a method which the object as stuart may access ; i.e stuart.methodY.

The object as Stuart is related by the class as ClassB.  The object as
stuart is of the class as ClassB.  The word as related means the same
as the word as linked within this context.

Each class may be part of an inheritance chain.

But the class as classB may also be considered an object.  Therefore
the class as classB itself may also be used as a receiver. e.g.

ClassB.methodZ

where the method as Z is defined within the class as ClassC : which is
the parentclass of ClassB.
or
where the method as Z is defined within the class as ClassB' : which
is a virtual class of ClassB.
Because ClassB' is the virtual class of ClassB and Class B is also the
subclass of ClassC, another virtual class as ClassC is established to
be the virtual parentclass of the virual class as ClassB'.  None of
these virtual classes are supposed to be immediately visible.  The
virtual class as ClassB' will contain all the methods of ClassB and
this pattern is repeated through the parallel inheritance chain.







> > QUESTION
> > I'm trying to understand classes and objects. The Pick axe book
> > describes the method as "once"  inside of the class as Date, and how this method is defined
> > by using the object singleton technique as "class << self". Actually
> > the class as Date uses this method at several places. Until I saw the class as Date I thought that the
> > reason by this singleton techinique was to add and replace methods inside of classes at such circumstances when you
> > don't have convenient ways to access by the class definition ; so I conclude that basically,
> > one should use this singleton technique when it's not your class which you need to enhance. But the fact
> > that the class as Date uses this method several times indicates there is another reason to
> > use it.

which is derived from
comp.lang.ruby August 9 2005
Kelly Felkins wrote:
> > I'm trying to understand classes and objects. The Pick axe book
> > points out the "once" method in class Date and how it is defined
> > using the object singleton technique of "class << self". Actually
> > Date uses this in several places. Up until seeing Date I thought the
> > reason for this idiom was to add/replace methods in classes *when you
> > don't have convenient access to the class definition* -- basically,
> > use this when it's not your class you need to enhance. But the fact
> > that Date uses it several times indicates there is another reason to
> > use it.


ANSWER

As you guessed, the reasons are different: typically you use "class
<<something...end" if you have to define several methods or if you
need a
class context for things to work (for example "alias").

These are equivalent:

class Foo
  class <<self
    def m1() "foo" end
  end


  class <<Foo
    def m2() "foo" end
  end


  def self.m3() "foo" end
  def Foo.m4() "foo" end
end


class <<Foo
  def m5() "foo" end
end


def Foo.m6() "foo" end


x = Foo
def x.m7() "foo" end


class <<x
  def m8() "foo" end
end


Now you have methods m1 to m8 as instance methods of Foo.  You can do
Foo.m1(), Foo.m2 etc.

More technically, with class <<something ... end you make definition
for
the so called "singleton class" the class instance responsible for the
single instance at hand (which happens to be a class object in this
case;
but you can repeat the example above with any object instead of Foo).
You
cannot create instances from this class:


irb(main):001:0> class Foo
irb(main):002:1> p new
irb(main):003:1> end
#<Foo:0x10192d58>
=> nil
irb(main):004:0> class <<Foo
irb(main):005:1> p new
irb(main):006:1> end
TypeError: can't create instance of virtual class
        from (irb):5:in `new'
        from (irb):5



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